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 Posted:   Jan 24, 2020 - 10:37 AM   
 By:   Montana Dave   (Member)

I viewed this film for the first time ever last night, (HBO). I skipped seeing it in San Francisco when it came out, can't recall as to why. So now I've seen the 1935 version with Clark Gable and the 1962 version with Marlon Brando and now the 1984 version with Mel Gibson. The overall winner here for me is the earliest version, with the Marlon Brando version a close second because of it's scope, music, cinematography and it's plethora of details about the reasons FOR the sailing as well as FOR the mutiny.
This version by Dino de Laurentis has some gorgeos panoramic shots, backed up with a subtle, sensous Vangellis score, (and you get to see a very young Mel Gibson's butt), however, that's pretty much it. The film has a listed director, Roger Donaldson, but it feels almost 'directionless'. For the audiences who don't know anything about the book or the previous filmed versions, they would have no clue as to any of the reasons for the sailing, really. The mutiny is handled sloppily beause, I think, it was scripted incoherantly by Robert Bolt. Bolt seems to have gone into the other versions and simply pulled out the 'centers' of each film and left it at that. The beginnings and the endings are kind of left out for the most part. Everyone is SO YOUNG here. Mel Gibson, Daniel Day Lewis, Liam Neeson. Anthony Hopkins (excellent actor that he can be), seems miscast here as Captain Bligh. He's capable, but he's not vicious enough, not deep-down sadistic enough to have gotten his crew to (believably) rise to the boiling point of mutiny. And the first half of the film, there's almost this, I don't know what...'sexual jelousy' of Fletcher Christian by Captain Bligh, or perhaps I was reading more into what I saw? The best role in the film was of The Tahitian King, who's name I've forgotten.

 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2020 - 10:54 AM   
 By:   Viscount Bark   (Member)

Anthony Hopkins (excellent actor that he can be), seems miscast here as Captain Bligh. He's capable, but he's not vicious enough, not deep-down sadistic enough to have gotten his crew to (believably) rise to the boiling point of mutiny. And the first half of the film, there's almost this, I don't know what...'sexual jelousy' of Fletcher Christian by Captain Bligh, or perhaps I was reading more into what I saw?

Wasn't this meant to be the "Sympathy for Bligh" version?

 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2020 - 10:55 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

Oh, you mean Wi Kuki Kaa, my favourite maori actor? Know him well. wink

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2020 - 11:17 AM   
 By:   Montana Dave   (Member)

Oh, you mean Wi Kuki Kaa, my favourite maori actor? Know him well. wink


Yes, i looked it up, that's his name. His performance, not as large as the leads, was still the best in the film.

 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2020 - 11:30 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

Dreadful film. Had to watch it with a girlfriend at the time coz she liked Mel gibson.

 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2020 - 12:15 PM   
 By:   dogplant   (Member)

Starring Tony Hopkins, Mel Gibson, Daniel Day Lewis, Dexter Fletcher, Bernard Hill, Liam Neeson… and me! I was an extra for the filming of the below-the-decks scenes on this film, huddled on a claustrophobic tilted set with director Roger Donaldson and cinematographer Arthur Ibbetson, at Lee International Studios in Wembley, sometime in the 1980s:

http://www.flashfilms.us/Blog/Entries/2015/3/3_Extra!_Extra!.html

Strangely, I don’t remember DD Lewis at all; but Mel Gibson was a sweetheart, who showed up on his day off and played cards with us extras. And I vividly recall quaking in my boots as Hopkins delivered his volcanic excoriation, ‘God damn your eyes, man!’* in this clip:

https://youtu.be/KDc6dZxh0Cs

[*At least, it sounded like 'eyes' to me, 35 years ago; and that terrified me. He damns his eyes? I'd never heard of such a thing. Off stage, Hopkins was a quiet and gentle man, and we were all in awe when a bunch of us extras got up the courage to knock on his dressing room door to meet him later. But Donaldson had asked 'Tony' to keep a low profile, and not to mingle before his first scene, barging in below decks and railing at his Sailing Master in front of all his crew. I still remember the terror he evoked, and the spittle flying from his lips. He was an elemental force. Just wonderful, man.]

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2020 - 1:06 PM   
 By:   Graham   (Member)

Love this film.

Wonderful performances by all.

Fabulous work by Vangelis as well.

Graham

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2020 - 3:17 PM   
 By:   lars.blondeel   (Member)

Love this film as well !!!

 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2020 - 5:04 PM   
 By:   Eric Paddon   (Member)

The more accurate version of the real story compared to the first two films which are almost entirely fiction. The scene of the mutiny is drawn from the actual eyewitness accounts including the tortured "I am in Hell!" line from Christian.

 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2020 - 7:56 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Dreadful film. Had to watch it with a girlfriend at the time coz she liked Mel gibson.

Wow, really?! Its a fantastic film.

 
 Posted:   Jan 25, 2020 - 12:43 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

Well it gets an extra mark coz dogpant was in it! smile

 
 Posted:   Jan 25, 2020 - 7:48 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

My friendly rebuttable:

Marlon Brando version a close second because of it's scope, music, cinematography and it's plethora of details about the reasons FOR the sailing as well as FOR the mutiny.

They clearly explain the reasons for the sailing both the actual mission and Bligh's personal quest.


This version by Dino de Laurentis has some gorgeos panoramic shots, backed up with a subtle, sensous Vangellis score, (and you get to see a very young Mel Gibson's butt),however, that's pretty much it.

There were thousands of naked islanders showing off their wonderfully tanned assets. Then again I swing differently. wink


The film has a listed director, Roger Donaldson, but it feels almost 'directionless'. For the audiences who don't know anything about the book or the previous filmed versions, they would have no clue as to any of the reasons for the sailing, really.

Again, it was all explained in the beginning of the film when Bligh goes over the mission with Christian.


The mutiny is handled sloppily beause, I think, it was scripted incoherantly by Robert Bolt.

It was brilliantly set up as a slow burner as frustration and dissolution grew.



Anthony Hopkins (excellent actor that he can be), seems miscast here as Captain Bligh. He's capable, but he's not vicious enough,

This was already explained.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 25, 2020 - 11:29 AM   
 By:   Rozsaphile   (Member)

David Lean and Robert Bolt spent years preparing a two-part story of "The Lawbreakers" and "The Long Arm." Bolt had a heart attack, and Lean eventually bowed out for lack of financing. I recall the eventual release version as a semi-incoherent mess that bounced from incident to incident with no proper pacing or development.

 
 Posted:   Jan 25, 2020 - 7:16 PM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)

The Bounty remains a gorgeous, compelling, breathtaking piece of work that hits all the right buttons. While I can respect the earlier versions, they do not move me in any way. This one did, whether it was Vangelis' hypnotic score or Hopkins' fantastic (and much underrated) performance. The film is impressively manipulative in an emotional sense. I sympathize with Bligh throughout, and during the final moments of the film when he chokes up with emotion after his legal proceeding, I choke up as well. And it continues with that stunning painting-in-motion, the Bounty on fire at sea. One of the best films of the 80s IMHO.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 26, 2020 - 2:28 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Great film, fantastic score that -- outside a few tracks on the THEMES compilation and the less-than-stellar 're-recording' -- STILL isn't released.

We've done a few threads about it in the past. I think I did one, but can't find it.

 
 Posted:   Jan 26, 2020 - 8:37 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Pork Pies for everyone who loves the 84 Bounty!

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2020 - 7:44 PM   
 By:   Binnacle   (Member)

Strangely, I don’t remember DD Lewis at all; but Mel Gibson was a sweetheart, who showed up on his day off and played cards with us extras. And I vividly recall quaking in my boots as Hopkins delivered his volcanic excoriation, ‘God damn your eyes, man!’ in this clip:

https://youtu.be/KDc6dZxh0Cs


The line is "God damn your hide (and no "man")!" not "eyes."

 
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