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 Posted:   Jan 18, 2020 - 5:20 PM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)

Channel surfing the other day I found a film I had never seen before. I was drawn to the film and its gorgeous score. The name of the film... THE CLAIM. What an absolutely beautiful score ! Looked for any dealer that still might have this score on CD. The CD came out 20 years ago on the Virgin label. Finally found it on E-bay and it is now giving me the joy of listening to it.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2020 - 6:52 PM   
 By:   jamesluckard   (Member)

Nyman wrote one of his most gorgeous, sweeping, thematic scores for the film. It reuses a couple of themes from his rejected Practical Magic score, which is my favorite of his.

Unfortunately, the score for The Claim was pretty thoroughly altered in the finished film. Major cues were dropped or put in other places, or cut-and-pasted. Nyman was incensed, as he made clear in interviews and the liner notes for his "Best of" CD, which included a couple of tracks from The Claim. Nyman and Winterbottom, who had been a great team up to that point, didn't work together again for a couple of years. Luckily they mended their relationship and have worked together multiple times since. Winterbottom has also hired Nyman's daughter Molly to score a number of his more recent films.

The score album for The Claim came out about six months before the film, at least in the US. I remember buying the album and listening to it constantly for months, before finally seeing he film and being horrified to see how the music had been mangled. I hated the film that first time, purely because I had fallen in love with the complete score on the album and was expecting it to appear exactly that way in the film. As I remember, almost the entire 10-minute finale cue, one of the highlights of the score, is dropped from the finished film.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2020 - 7:18 PM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)

Nyman wrote one of his most gorgeous, sweeping, thematic scores for the film. It reuses a couple of themes from his rejected Practical Magic score, which is my favorite of his.

Unfortunately, the score for The Claim was pretty thoroughly altered in the finished film. Major cues were dropped or put in other places, or cut-and-pasted. Nyman was incensed, as he made clear in interviews and the liner notes for his "Best of" CD, which included a couple of tracks from The Claim. Nyman and Winterbottom, who had been a great team up to that point, didn't work together again for a couple of years. Luckily they mended their relationship and have worked together multiple times since. Winterbottom has also hired Nyman's daughter Molly to score a number of his more recent films.

The score album for The Claim came out about six months before the film, at least in the US. I remember buying the album and listening to it constantly for months, before finally seeing he film and being horrified to see how the music had been mangled. I hated the film that first time, purely because I had fallen in love with the complete score on the album and was expecting it to appear exactly that way in the film. As I remember, almost the entire 10-minute finale cue, one of the highlights of the score, is dropped from the finished film.[/endquote

Thank you so much for all the background information. I am so glad I found the CD on E-bay. Like you, the CD is destined for multiple spins.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2020 - 7:23 PM   
 By:   GoblinScore   (Member)

The Claim?
Oh yeah it's a good one - it's not ALL doom & gloom post-1959, cody!
There are hidden gems.
Six Days Six Nights is also lovely, orchestral semi-romantic business worth looking into.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2020 - 7:45 PM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)

The Claim?
Oh yeah it's a good one - it's not ALL doom & gloom post-1959, cody!
There are hidden gems.
Six Days Six Nights is also lovely, orchestral semi-romantic business worth looking into.


Yes,I do have and like Six Days,Six Nights. I have cultivated the image on this board of being stuck in golden and silver age scores. It's not totally true. I loved Alexandre Desplat's score to THE SHAPE OF WATER. Now I am hoping for Thomas Newman's score to 1917 to be successful at the Academy Awards. Like my age, my love of film music spans many decades.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2020 - 7:55 PM   
 By:   GoblinScore   (Member)

The Claim?
Oh yeah it's a good one - it's not ALL doom & gloom post-1959, cody!
There are hidden gems.
Six Days Six Nights is also lovely, orchestral semi-romantic business worth looking into.


Yes,I do have and like Six Days,Six Nights. I have cultivated the image on this board of being stuck in golden and silver age scores. It's not totally true. I loved Alexandre Desplat's score to THE SHAPE OF WATER. Now I am hoping for Thomas Newman's score to 1917 to be successful at the Academy Awards. Like my age, my love of film music spans many decades.


Cody - you and a few others are TRUE advocates of the Golden Age.
I am 44 this year & love damn near every era in film scoring.
I agree with you & your peers, there is much "garbage" that gets more attention than it should. That said, it's so heartening to see you enjoy this early 00's Nyman piece. Everything is not lost!
I wish those perfect years of cinema were treated better and more distinguished than they have been. I'm confident all we hold dear WILL be excavated in time.

Best wishes my friend, remember there are gems waiting to be mined!!
-Sean

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2020 - 8:04 PM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)

Thank you,Sean. Whatever the decade, my music must have MELODY.

 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2020 - 9:35 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

This is my single favorite Michael Nyman score. Glad you discovered it Cody.

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2020 - 10:05 PM   
 By:   jamesluckard   (Member)

GATTACA is also a stunning and highly melodic Nyman score.

 
 Posted:   Jan 19, 2020 - 12:18 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Actually GATTACA was the very first Nyman score I fell in love with, in the film itself. Very powerful. But on album I love The Claim the most (never seen the film).

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Jan 19, 2020 - 8:04 AM   
 By:   edwzoomom   (Member)



Thank you cody for shining the spotlight on this Nyman score and thank you jamesluckard for the interesting background info on its use in the film. Of course, I also love seeing commentary from two of my favorites, Goblin and Yavar. This is the type of information and commentary that I need to jump start my film score fervor that had waned a bit this past year. I cannot wait to look into this one. I found a bit on YouTube and I want more. Love hidden gems.

 
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