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Hey guys!
Finally, I'm transferring my entire CD collection to FLAC files so I can use the wonderful Roon software and freely jump from one recording/release to another as fast as possible. I'm doing it in such a way that I won't miss my CDs - yes, I'm scanning the whole artwork, liner notes whatever, so, I was wondering if anyone has done the same and
1) Needs help with scans. I am currently on Bruce Broughton right now, so anyone before him, alphabetically, I have them scanned already.
2) Might help me with some scans so I can speed things up a bit.
**On a side note, I should add that those Rykodisc releases are a bitch to scan! Oh my!
Well, let me know if you need anything or if you can help me with something. I'm scanning these suckers at 300 dpi. I know I could do better than that but for the sake of speed I'm doing them in 300. It's a 25 year-old and 8000+ collection (so far).
Best,
Bob.
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Indeed. Multiple hard drives in multiple physical locations is the way to go.
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Indeed. Multiple hard drives in multiple physical locations is the way to go.
Exactly. You don't want to do it all and then lose it. I don't even know how many hours I've spent scanning CD graphics and booklets, and then straightening and finishing them in Photoshop, but I hate to even think about losing all that work.
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Funny thing, I stumbled upon this thread while ripping the new Williams/Anne Sophie Mutter album.
I started transferring my entire CD collection to ALAC in 2013, and never looked back. Best thing that happened to music are file formats like FLAC and ALAC. Waste of time? It takes some time, sure, especially if you want a consistent and logical tagging, but the benefits just outweigh all of that. When I listen at home, I can easily select the albums I want or arrange playlists at will, and on the go I have access to my music in my car or on my phone while the CDs are safely stored away. Usually, I just insert the CDs I buy once these days: in my ROM-drive to rip them. It's become very rare that I actually play a CD to listen to it.
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Dec 28, 2019 - 10:55 AM
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Thor
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I can't contribute much in terms of the FLAC discussion, but I always have some general remarks about the physical to digital transition, every time this topic pops up.
I transferred all of my 1000-ish CDs to iTunes a few years ago. Took me several months. I didn't bother about FLACs; high quality mp3s were more than enough. My tinnitus-affected ears can't discern the difference anymore. The artwork, I found online. That which I didn't find, I scanned. Now all my CDs are displayed as an 'art piece' in the apartment, really. I don't play them (although I have plans to reinstall my DVD/CD player to re-experience the physical format).
Last year, I lost all my music files, as my external hard disk fell to the floor during a PC swipe. Fortunately, I had lots of the music in my ancient iPod, so I managed to retrieve most of it from there. I should really think about getting a 'cloud' backup, but with my internet line, uploading 170 GB will take forever.
My new laptop doesn't even have a CD-ROM drive, so I would need to get an external CD-ROM drive if I'm ever to import another CD to iTunes again.
Times, they are a-changin'.
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Last year, I lost all my music files, as my external hard disk fell to the floor during a PC swipe. Fortunately, I had lots of the music in my ancient iPod, so I managed to retrieve most of it from there. I should really think about getting a 'cloud' backup, but with my internet line, uploading 170 GB will take forever.
This is really why you should have more than one HD. The "cloud" is for convenience but it's not local storage (i.e. something you control) and shouldn't really be considered a backup per se.
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Dec 28, 2019 - 2:23 PM
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Mose Harper
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Funny thing, I stumbled upon this thread while ripping the new Williams/Anne Sophie Mutter album.
I started transferring my entire CD collection to ALAC in 2013, and never looked back. Best thing that happened to music are file formats like FLAC and ALAC. Waste of time? It takes some time, sure, especially if you want a consistent and logical tagging, but the benefits just outweigh all of that. When I listen at home, I can easily select the albums I want or arrange playlists at will, and on the go I have access to my music in my car or on my phone while the CDs are safely stored away. Usually, I just insert the CDs I buy once these days: in my ROM-drive to rip them. It's become very rare that I actually play a CD to listen to it.
I'm kind of shocked that everyone here wasn't already doing this.
Also, I used to manually fill out all the fields in iTunes myself, until I learned that iTunes use Gracenote automatically if you are online when you insert the CD.
If that isn't the "tagging" you guys are referring to- what is it?
This kind of ties into the question I posted a couple weeks back asking "How many listens before you give up?". My entire collection, save for a few recent purchases I haven't ripped yet, is a click away as I type this.
For me the big impediment to enjoying most scores is simply to get acclimated to their particular soundscapes. Part of that is to use a new (to me) score as background noise on a regular basis for a while- maybe once every couple days.
To that end I'll also make playlists up containing several newer acquisitions along with some tonally similar older titles in my collection- and then set it to shuffle and absorb it all as ambient noise for a while.
Pulling scores apart, juxtaposing or re-contextualizing by interweaving cues from a new score with deeper cuts from a half dozen others - all at random every time- not only helps me absorb and bond with the new stuff, it helps reinvigorate my emotional response to those older, all too familiar cues.
I still listen to full albums straight as well. I just can't imagine pulling out each individual CD every single time to do so.
I just need to get better about backing this stuff up. Especially the out-of-print stuff.
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Pulling scores apart, juxtaposing or re-contextualizing by interweaving cues from a new score with deeper cuts from a half dozen others - all at random every time- not only helps me absorb and bond with the new stuff, it helps reinvigorate my emotional response to those older, all too familiar cues.
I do a version of this too. I'll combine cues to create suites, sometimes in film order and sometimes not, and it's like an old friend who got a new haircut.
I still listen to full albums straight as well. I just can't imagine pulling out each individual CD every single time to do so.
I can't either, but I do make time to listen to CDs on a dedicated player away from computer screens, TVs etc. The ritual is still alive and well even if I don't have the free time I'd like.
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I didn't bother about FLACs; high quality mp3s were more than enough. My tinnitus-affected ears can't discern the difference anymore
This may well be so, and I won't argue. However, since I know that even today, at over 50, I can easily differentiate between (even the best-)MP3 or lossless ALAC files (provided I am familiar with the music and the playback system is up to it; yes, I have done blind tests to confirm this... it's not even difficult to hear the difference), and the evidence clearly indicates that listeners can even differentiate between CD and high-res sound (haven't done comprehensive listening comparisons myself, so I won't lean myself out of the window here, but the studies suggest humans are able to differentiate), I would never be satisfied listening to MP3, even if I ever loose my ability to differentiate. If you have to go for lossy (which I cannot really understand, given that 4TB of high-end hardware disc space cost less than $100.-... I know I just bought some), I just cannot see how one would not at least switch to AAC, which sounds noticeably better.
Then again, I don't see how one would ever sacrifice (potential) sound quality for disc space. If I ever had to sacrifice one for the other, it would be the other way around.
In any case, the comparatively poor MP3 sound back in its day (which, while many people said the difference cannot be heard, stood out like a sour thumb to me even 20 years ago, and even at 320kbps delivers sub-par sound) stopped me to switch to the format when it was in vogue, and I stuck to CDs (I do most of my listening on my home stereo anyway, so portability was a nice add-on, but never the main consideration). But these days, finally, with lossless or high-res files and stereo systems with high-end DACs, there is no need for any type of physical media anymore.
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I'm kind of shocked that everyone here wasn't already doing this.
Also, I used to manually fill out all the fields in iTunes myself, until I learned that iTunes use Gracenote automatically if you are online when you insert the CD.
If that isn't the "tagging" you guys are referring to- what is it?
Well, the auto-tagging internet feature is nice and fine, but at best, a starting help. It is full of errors or inconsistent tagging. Just for one composer, you find tags such as:
Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
Mozart, Wolfgang Amadeus
Mozart, Wolfgang Amadeus (1756-1791)
Mozart, W.A.
And so on. Not to mention artists:
Karajan, Herbert von: Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra
Herbert von Karajan: Berliner Philharmoniker
Karajan, Herbert von - Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra
Berliner Philharmoniker: Herbert von Karajan
and so on, and so on, I am only scratching at the surface.
So you can either say: "what do I care, looks all alright to me", which is fair enough.
Or you can go to the trouble and decide on one way and correct all other ways, so that you have a database that is consistent, which is a bit more work and requires to re-work the auto-tagging that you get from Internet databases.
Fortunately, I hardly ever have to bother with the individual track titles, but I always have to edit album tags so they are consistent.
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FLAC is a waste of space.
Compared to what?
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