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 Posted:   Dec 17, 2019 - 9:50 AM   
 By:   funkymonkeyjavajunky   (Member)

So, I am trying to figure out why specialty CDs (e.g., Intrada, La-La Land, Varese, etc.) are listed for such absurd prices ($100+) within months after they are out of print. Also, why is it so difficult to find so many titles?

Are the pressings so limited (even though a lot of Intrada titles say 'while interest remains)? Supply and demand? I know this interest is a niche market, but it shouldn't be so difficult to acquire a release that numbers in the thousands. I get the impression that folks buying these titles aren't parting with them (at least not for years, if in their lifetime). Anyway, your thoughts?

 
 Posted:   Dec 17, 2019 - 10:18 AM   
 By:   Doug Raynes   (Member)

Just because someone lists a CD at $100 and upward, doesn’t mean that they actually sell at that price.

 
 Posted:   Dec 17, 2019 - 10:33 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Just because someone lists a CD at $100 and upward, doesn’t mean that they actually sell at that price.

The problem is other sellers use this arbitrary price as a benchmark. Go to SAE's used section and you'll see prices comparable to overpriced Amazon prices.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 17, 2019 - 10:38 AM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

My sense is that that's the point when the seller's perceived value of something crosses over into the territory of "hope".

 
 Posted:   Dec 17, 2019 - 11:01 AM   
 By:   johnonymous86   (Member)

I know it's not impossible but I can't for the life of me imagine paying that much for music. I have some semi-rare OOP scores that I've seen going for that price--The Indy box set was going for several hundred on ebay last time I looked and Independence Day is ridiculously expensive.

The few rare CDs that I've sold all went for way under what the "market" value is. I think a lot of those are wishful thinking--if they really wanted to sell the thing, they'd price it to sell.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 17, 2019 - 11:09 AM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

I know it's not impossible but I can't for the life of me imagine paying that much for music. I have some semi-rare OOP scores that I've seen going for that price--The Indy box set was going for several hundred on ebay last time I looked and Independence Day is ridiculously expensive.
The few rare CDs that I've sold all went for way under what the "market" value is. I think a lot of those are wishful thinking--if they really wanted to sell the thing, they'd price it to sell.



I've breathed in my fair share of that poison gas.
For a few years I was obsessed with tracking down the original Bowie RCA CD's.
I would be ashamed to admit some of the amounts I paid.
It got to the point where I had to cash in investments to pay off my VISA bill.
That caused me to finally pull my head out of my arse.

 
 Posted:   Dec 17, 2019 - 11:11 AM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

I know it's not impossible but I can't for the life of me imagine paying that much for music. I have some semi-rare OOP scores that I've seen going for that price--The Indy box set was going for several hundred on ebay last time I looked and Independence Day is ridiculously expensive.
The few rare CDs that I've sold all went for way under what the "market" value is. I think a lot of those are wishful thinking--if they really wanted to sell the thing, they'd price it to sell.



I've breathed in my fair share of that poison gas.
For a few years I was obsessed with tracking down the original Bowie RCA CD's.
I would be ashamed to admit some of the amounts I paid.
It got to the point where I had to cash in investments to pay off my VISA bill.
That caused me to finally pull my head out of my arse.
p


I have LOW if yore interested.
$+00. CHEAP!

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 17, 2019 - 11:56 AM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

I have LOW if yore interested.
$+00. CHEAP!



Arghh!
I have the Germany AND the Japan.
Where were you in 2001 when I needed them?!

(But anyway, this thread is primarily about score CD's, I think.
My sad anecdote of woe was not meant to derail.)

 
 Posted:   Dec 17, 2019 - 12:59 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

It got to the point where I had to cash in investments to pay off my VISA bill.
That caused me to finally pull my head out of my arse.


I have LOW if yore interested.
$+00. CHEAP!


Hopefully you didn't pull it out of your own, just to put it up Marshall's.
It would be like he was McGavin and you were Sinatra in "The Man with the Golden Arse."

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 17, 2019 - 1:24 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

Hopefully you didn't pull it out of your own, just to put it up Marshall's.


Oh hell, no!
After the VISA Debacle I took stock of myself and vowed that never, ever again will I be another man's rectal tampon.
Not even David Bowie's.
And that's saying something.

(Please excuse my French. I suspect it does not translate well.)

 
 Posted:   Dec 17, 2019 - 1:46 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Hopefully you didn't pull it out of your own, just to put it up Marshall's.


Oh hell, no!
After the VISA Debacle I took stock of myself and vowed that never, ever again will I be another man's rectal tampon.


Aargh, laddy, you just put me off my haggis.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 17, 2019 - 1:49 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

Aargh, laddy, you just put me off my haggis.


My Slavic pride cannot be defeated--but it CAN be distracted by a good, home-cooked meal (including haggis).

 
 Posted:   Dec 17, 2019 - 1:54 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Seriously
Is LOW ' collectibe'?

I have the RYKO with bonus track's

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 17, 2019 - 2:13 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

Seriously
Is LOW ' collectibe'?
I have the RYKO with bonus track's



No, amigo, it was the original RCA CD's I was talking about.
Those are the ones that, to this day, go for crazy money.

 
 Posted:   Dec 17, 2019 - 2:48 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Seriously
Is LOW ' collectibe'?
I have the RYKO with bonus track's



No, amigo, it was the original RCA CD's I was talking about.
Those are the ones that, to this day, go for crazy money.


Really?!
Bowie signed with Ryko cuz he didn't want his CDs to be sold for cheap- like the WHO on Mca or his own label
I guess the RCA ones were produced in small amounts before he switched?

Ant differences?

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 17, 2019 - 3:15 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

Really?!
Bowie signed with Ryko cuz he didn't want his CDs to be sold for cheap- like the WHO on Mca or his own label
I guess the RCA ones were produced in small amounts before he switched?
Ant differences?



The RCA discs seemed pretty plentiful to me at the time they appeared, so I didn't feel a great rush to get them all.
But no one knew how fast they were about to go out of print.
It caught everyone by surprise and the race to get them all was on.

The RCA CD's were pretty bare-bones affairs.
No extra material, minimal-effort packaging.
I think the reason fans want them so much is because out of all the different reissues over the years, they had sound quality that seemed the least "futzed" with.
Most of them sound great to me.
The RYKO's are frequently thought of as having inferior sound.
I have no problem with them--I think they sound fine--and at the time, the bonus tracks were like manna from heaven.
Their packaging was top-notch as well.

It gets a lot more convoluted when he re-signed with EMI in 1999 and they did their own reissues.
By then the companies were well into the era of over-compression and it's only gotten worse since then.
The "loudness wars".
That's one more reason for the fans to seek out the RCA's--no compression or clipping.

If you happen to have any... KEEP them.

 
 Posted:   Dec 17, 2019 - 4:05 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

I'm happy with my.Ryko
Thanks!

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 17, 2019 - 5:04 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

I'm happy with my.Ryko
Thanks!



By all means, stay happy with it--the RYKO's are a quality product.
With modern remastering trends being what they are, the day will come that the RYKO's become highly sought-after, too.
Then the highly vocal anti-RYKO squad will have to eat crow.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 17, 2019 - 5:12 PM   
 By:   TJ   (Member)

Supply and demand, I just don't really participate in all that anymore.

Looks like my last purchase was Prometheus's The Vikings. I'll pick up Dial M For Murder, but for modern day releases, I just stream it on Amazon Music Unlimited.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 17, 2019 - 5:15 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

On the bright side, you can get "The Eagles Greatest Hits" for 49 cents. Now there's a good waste of 49 cents.

 
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