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LOG IN Forgot Login? Register General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board Search Terms:  Search Within:  topics posts since 2019 2018 posts 2017 posts 2016 posts 2015 posts 2014 posts 2013 posts 2012 posts 2011 posts 2010 posts 2009 posts 2008 posts 2007 posts 2006 posts 2005 posts 2004 posts 2003 posts 2002 posts 2001 posts 2000 posts users  search tips  You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2 3      General Discussion: 60's Soundtracks that Studios lost money on?    FIRST   PRIOR   1 2 3       Last Post   Posted:   Nov 20, 2019 - 11:24 PM     By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member) As to what soundtracks the studios over-printed in 1969, my money would be on TRUE GRIT (the #8 film of the year), with its bastardized version of Bernstein's score, and to a lesser extent HELLO, DOLLY! (#5), both of which seemed to be well-represented in the cut-out bins. The top 3 films of that year (BUTCH CASSIDY, MIDNIGHT COWBOY, and EASY RIDER) had soundtracks that remained steady full-price sellers for years.    Posted:   Nov 21, 2019 - 7:40 AM     By:   villagardens553   (Member) Wasn't Thunderball one of the top grossing films of 1966? Someone mentioned The Sand Pebbles showing up in cut-out bins; in the late 70s when the album was long oop I stumbled across a stash of sealed mono copies.    Posted:   Nov 21, 2019 - 8:46 AM     By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member) Wasn't Thunderball one of the top grossing films of 1966? Someone mentioned The Sand Pebbles showing up in cut-out bins; in the late 70s when the album was long oop I stumbled across a stash of sealed mono copies. TB was a.big hit but the LP didn't.repeat the success of GF    Posted:   Nov 21, 2019 - 9:23 AM     By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member) LPs being in cut-out bins doesn't mean they didn't sell well, it just means they over-produced it. That's something that can happen to a really successful record—it sells well, so to keep up with demand, they step up production, but they don't anticipate the sales drop-off curve very well and end up with excess stock. Thunderball sold HUGE on record, but they almost certainly over-produced it. Cheers    Posted:   Nov 21, 2019 - 10:02 AM     By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member) LPs being in cut-out bins doesn't mean they didn't sell well, it just means they over-produced it. That's something that can happen to a really successful record—it sells well, so to keep up with demand, they step up production, but they don't anticipate the sales drop-off curve very well and end up with excess stock. Thunderball sold HUGE on record, but they almost certainly over-produced it. Cheers GOLDFINGER was number one on BILLBOARD for 3 weeks! An astounding accomplishment.    Posted:   Nov 21, 2019 - 10:04 AM     By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member) LPs being in cut-out bins doesn't mean they didn't sell well, it just means they over-produced it. That's something that can happen to a really successful record—it sells well, so to keep up with demand, they step up production, but they don't anticipate the sales drop-off curve very well and end up with excess stock. Thunderball sold HUGE on record, but they almost certainly over-produced it. Adjusted for inflation, Thunderball's box office receipts were second only to Skyfall. And Thunderball was where Bond Mania peaked as a broad-based cultural phenomenon. And as Zooba stated above, before home video, the soundtrack album was your only way to relive the film at will. So yeah, the LP must have sold tons of copies. It couldn't fail to do so.    Posted:   Nov 21, 2019 - 10:04 AM     By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member) I bought LET.IT BE as a.cutout! It was part.of a tax scheme.by their manager.    Posted:   Nov 21, 2019 - 1:51 PM     By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member) Wasn't Thunderball one of the top grossing films of 1966? THUNDERBALL racked up most of its grosses in 1966, but officially, it's a 1965 film, having opened in the U.S. and Europe in December 1965. So, it generally appears on lists of 1965 releases. Looked at that way, THUNDERBALL was the 3rd highest U.S.-grossing film of 1965, with U.S. revenues of $64 million, behind THE SOUND OF MUSIC ($163 million) and DOCTOR ZHIVAGO ($112 million).    Posted:   Nov 21, 2019 - 3:17 PM     By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member) Someone mentioned The Sand Pebbles showing up in cut-out bins; in the late 70s when the album was long oop I stumbled across a stash of sealed mono copies. That was me. The copy I bought out of the cut-out bin circa 1971 was also mono. I never did see a stereo version, or I would have purchased it. Maybe it was just the mono version that Fox over-pressed.    Posted:   Nov 22, 2019 - 2:08 AM     By:   jef29bow   (Member) Didn’t Fox also lose money on the soundtrack album for Doctor Dolittle? I seem to recall reading that a lot of the albums went unsold. DOLITTLE sold a lot of albums, but that was a case of Fox far overestimating demand. They had convinced themselves that DOLITTLE would be another SOUND OF MUSIC in popularity and album sales, so they printed up millions of them. So even though it sold plenty, you can still easily find sealed copies of that album to this day. True, the stereo album is pretty ubiquitous, but try finding that thing in the original US mono pressing (not some overseas one). It took me forever to find a sealed copy, and the few times that I've seen it turn up on Ebay, the sellers are often pricing it at something like three or four times what the stereo version sells for. Go figure.    Posted:   Nov 22, 2019 - 8:56 AM     By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member) MONO.pressings of ROCK MUSIC is collectible. NOT soundtracks.    Posted:   Nov 22, 2019 - 9:15 AM     By:   nz   (Member) There were a lot of soundtrack LPs that flopped in those days.You'd always find cut-out bins loaded with them.Three that I remember came from 20th Century-Fox Records."Doctor Dolittle" sold well initially because of all the hype.So did "Star!",thanks to Julie Andrews.But they then dropped because 20th put too many copies on the market.And "Hello,Dolly!" only reached #49 on the charts,even with Barbra Streisand.Soundtrack LPs were dying at that time,because audiences just didn't care about movie music.It wasn't until "Jaws","Superman",and especially "Star Wars" that soundtracks took off again.    Posted:   Nov 22, 2019 - 4:16 PM     By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member) "Hello,Dolly!" only reached #49 on the charts,even with Barbra Streisand.Soundtrack LPs were dying at that time,because audiences just didn't care about movie music.It wasn't until "Jaws","Superman",and especially "Star Wars" that soundtracks took off again. There were big selling soundtracks during the early 1970s, albeit not at the level of STAR WARS. (What was?) LOVE STORY hit #2 on the Billboard album chart in March 1971. THE GODFATHER soundtrack reached #21 in July 1972. The soundtrack for LIVE AND LET DIE hit #17 in September 1973. THE WAY WE WERE was #20 in March 1974. THE STING hit #1 on the charts in May 1974 and stayed there for 5 weeks. Meanwhile, JAWS peaked at #30 in September 1975. And the month that STAR WARS was released, ROCKY hit #4 in May 1977.    Posted:   Nov 22, 2019 - 9:04 PM     By:   jef29bow   (Member) MONO.pressings of ROCK MUSIC is collectible. NOT soundtracks. Your bad English is almost as unwelcome as your attitude.    Posted:   Nov 24, 2019 - 12:17 PM     By:   Paul MacLean   (Member) Thunderball sold HUGE on record, but they almost certainly over-produced it. That's interesting, because that was the one Bond soundtrack as a kid in the 80s I could never find. All the the others were still in print, but Thunderball seemed to be out of print (though it was eventually reissued by Liberty Records in the mid-80s with slightly altered cover art).    Posted:   Nov 25, 2019 - 6:50 AM     By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member) Thunderball sold HUGE on record, but they almost certainly over-produced it. That's interesting, because that was the one Bond soundtrack as a kid in the 80s I could never find. All the the others were still in print, but Thunderball seemed to be out of print (though it was eventually reissued by Liberty Records in the mid-80s with slightly altered cover art). By the 80s, the original United Artists releases would probably have been out of print and it would be the reissues on the Sunset or other labels (like Liberty) that would have been most common then. The Bond scores got a lot of reissues through the 70s and 80s, but for some reason Thunderball wasn't reissued as much as From Russia With Love or Goldfinger. Neither was OHMSS. Nevertheless, the original release in 1965 did very well. Cheers    Posted:   Nov 25, 2019 - 11:34 AM     By:   joec   (Member) Some like it hot was actually available into the 1970s on UA records. Could be, although the Schwann Catalog from March 1969 shows no sign of it. But you will find BEN-HUR in there, the 1958 Warner re-recording of FOR WHOM THE BELL TOLLS, and UA's 1958 THE VIKINGS, all of which I remember seeing in stores circa 1970. Several UA soundtrack titles were reissued or re-pressed during early 70s. I obtained many of them including HOT and the early Bonds. The label was the updated bronze/brown with the big UA.    Posted:   Nov 26, 2019 - 12:48 PM     By:   filmusicnow   (Member) Some like it hot was actually available into the 1970s on UA records. Could be, although the Schwann Catalog from March 1969 shows no sign of it. But you will find BEN-HUR in there, the 1958 Warner re-recording of FOR WHOM THE BELL TOLLS, and UA's 1958 THE VIKINGS, all of which I remember seeing in stores circa 1970. Several UA soundtrack titles were reissued or re-pressed during early 70s. I obtained many of them including HOT and the early Bonds. The label was the updated bronze/brown with the big UA. Which replaced the orange/black label with the white/green United Artists logo with the black frame that was used from '70-71 and was seen on the "Goldfinger" reissue.    Posted:   Nov 26, 2019 - 1:01 PM     By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member) Iirc the ORIGINAL pressings are in paper sleeves with pix 9f other UA Lps ?    Posted:   Nov 26, 2019 - 1:01 PM     By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member) Iirc the ORIGINAL pressings are in paper sleeves with pix 9f other UA Lps ?     General Discussion: 60's Soundtracks that Studios lost money on?    << < 1 2 3  >   Go to page:  1 2 3   First Post    General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2 3

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