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 Posted:   Nov 13, 2019 - 12:56 PM   
 By:   acathla   (Member)

(There's probably a thousands threads on these boxes but for some reason i couldnt find any while searching, lol)

I just got into these complete recordings. Bought the first box this week and ordered the two remaining ones (3 CD + 1 BD). I have ripped them lossless into my itunes and I must say I'm a bit disappointed. Not in the music itself (which is really good, all though a tad bit too orchestral at some places for my taste razz ), but in the quality of the audio.

They dont sound as "smooth" as other CDs I've bought and the volume is very low!! Some parts I can bearly even hear. I was forced to higher to volume on each track in iTunes, but can't do that too much either as that will also reduce the quality even further.

Has anyone else experienced this? Or is it just my CDs? Should I've invested in the 24 bits digital versions instead?
Would that make a difference? Or rip the BD files (is it even possible?)

The original soundtracks (all though piss poor quality, imo. Specially the Fellowship one) has better audio volume than these...!

Thoughts please big grin

 
 Posted:   Nov 13, 2019 - 1:27 PM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)


The original soundtracks (all though piss poor quality, imo. Specially the Fellowship one) has better audio volume than these...!

Thoughts please big grin


Have you played the Blu Ray disc provided in the sets? Maybe that will make a difference.

 
 Posted:   Nov 13, 2019 - 1:49 PM   
 By:   acathla   (Member)


The original soundtracks (all though piss poor quality, imo. Specially the Fellowship one) has better audio volume than these...!

Thoughts please big grin


Have you played the Blu Ray disc provided in the sets? Maybe that will make a difference.


Yes, I did play this via my playstation 4 (stereo only as i dont have a surround set) and it did sound amazing there.
But its mostly when I listen via my headphones while "out and about" lol. (very good headphones with amazing sound while playing other scores). In there I noticed how low the audio was and that it dont always sound as smooth.

 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2019 - 10:35 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

Don't know if this helps but I have the original set (with the Audio-DVD) and cannot confirm bad sound, quite the contrary, both the CDs and the 24bit/48khz recordings sound spectacularly cathedralic.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2019 - 10:44 AM   
 By:   Expat@22   (Member)


The original soundtracks (all though piss poor quality, imo. Specially the Fellowship one) has better audio volume than these...!

Thoughts please big grin


Have you played the Blu Ray disc provided in the sets? Maybe that will make a difference.


Yes, I did play this via my playstation 4 (stereo only as i dont have a surround set) and it did sound amazing there.
But its mostly when I listen via my headphones while "out and about" lol. (very good headphones with amazing sound while playing other scores). In there I noticed how low the audio was and that it dont always sound as smooth.


What are your headphones? I have tried many, and I mean many. I have settled on Sennheiser as a make. I play via my iPod and the tracks haven't been ripped lossless either.

It has been my experience that headphones are specific to the person and to the music type. When you mentioned "other scores" what did you mean?

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2019 - 11:30 AM   
 By:   .   (Member)


What are your headphones? I have tried many, and I mean many. I have settled on Sennheiser as a make. I play via my iPod and the tracks haven't been ripped lossless either.





Good choice. I use the Sennheiser HD600 for listening, and the Sennheiser HD25 for editing.
Love them both. The tough little HD25 is good for outdoor use too.
The CD versions of Lord of the Rings Complete Recordings sounds excellent with the HD600.

 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2019 - 1:04 PM   
 By:   acathla   (Member)

I use Sony headphones and I am really satisfied with it. What I meant with other scores is basically everything else of movies and tv shows. All CDs I rip (lossless) sounds amazing in them and I never feel the need to turn up the volume or anything and I can hear quite clearly all the different instruments etc.

I listened through CD 2 and 3 today on my headphones it varies so much from track to track, imo.
Like Khazad Dum. It actually sounded really good during the action parts but as soon as the sad parts starts I can bearly hear it. I'll leave an example of the track so you can see the difference in volume below.

And then there was Balin's Tomb which sounded really bad. Specially the amazing intro. Could almost not identify the different instruments. :O

And in The Road Goes Ever On...Pt 1 there's a section at 2:15 where the flute sounds really distant. Like they are playing it from the room next door or something. This is not the case on the OST version.

I dont know, maybe its just my ears, lol! big grin

Khazad Dum



 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2019 - 1:16 PM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

Posting waveform images is gonna cause drama.

 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2019 - 1:17 PM   
 By:   acathla   (Member)

Posting waveform images is gonna cause drama.

Oh really? Why is that? :O

 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2019 - 1:30 PM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

Theres a subculture of people on this board who try to use them as evidence of something - as if their experience somehow outmaneuvers many professionals who make a living at audio.

Sorta like the people who make YouTube videos about how only they could make Casablanca better or why John Williams doesn't understand harmony somehow. Its about possession and small egos writ large. I'd cite the Mandolarian thread as a good example but you'd also need to eat a bottle of Tums before looking at that hot mess.

Is that you? I don't know. But thats what most of those posts add up to.

 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2019 - 1:37 PM   
 By:   JeffM   (Member)

Could it be a defective pressing? My original CD copy of Poison's "Open Up and Say... Ahh!" was several decibels lower than my friend's copy bought around the same time. I always figured it was defective.

I don't have the LOTR Complete Recordings so I cannot compare. But I've been planning on borrowing them from my library.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2019 - 1:39 PM   
 By:   John McMasters   (Member)

I have the "original" sets of the complete recordings -- the ones that came with multiple CDs plus a DVD. The sound on those is spectacular although I haven't listened to them in months. I do recall that I noted a difference in sound quality between the CDs and the DVDs (I don't own any of the single disc iterations).

it seemed to me that equalization was used sparingly, if at all, on the DVDs -- hence the sound spread was much greater -- loud passages were very loud and quiet passages were very quiet. I believe there was a bit more equalization on the CDs in those sets. I don't recall any distortion if I turned up the volume on the DVDs. But these are of course only amateur observations.

Not sure if this is helpful -- but that's what I recall. I'll spin the sets again tonight and if my opinion changes, I'll add an addendum as needed.

(I play cds, DVDs, and blu-rays using an OPPO 203 running into a Marantz receiver -- and use either Sennheiser Wireless NoiseCancelling 4.50's or wired AKG K172s.)

 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2019 - 1:48 PM   
 By:   acathla   (Member)

I am certainly not here to offend anyone with posting the screen shot, I'm a complete amateur, lol!

I dont think its my headphones as they do really sound amazing while playing other scores, but given how no one knows what I'm talking about, I'm starting to think that maybe its just me. I usually seek the more "simple" scores, like tv shows as I'm mostly fond of melodies and themes instead of huge orchestral ones. And I have googled this and cant find any other persons on the world wide web "complaining" about the quality, so maybe its just me not being used to the sound of these. Cause the LOTR is HUGE and orchestral.

But damn it has some truly amazing themes too! big grin

Thanks for all your inputs!

 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2019 - 2:08 PM   
 By:   General Kael   (Member)

I performed some detailed A/B comparisons of many of the LOTR cues because I was compiling several suites and mixing parts of various tracks together, and deciding on which source to use, and it became clear to me that in some instances they were different performances, and in others it was simply a different mix; one for film, and one for album. That was my conclusion about all of this about 5 years ago anyway. You do not have a defective product, that's just how they are.

 
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