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 Posted:   Aug 2, 2023 - 11:31 PM   
 By:   drop_forge   (Member)

I do really like that brawl. Unfortunately watching it made me wanna go back home and play the Arkham Asylum/City challenge rooms where I could do the same thing without having to sit through Snyder's abysmal schlock, which is really no better than what you are saying of Schumacher's work. As I grow older, I've really become a fan of the late 60s TV and movie Batman with Adam West and the colorful cast. It's a lot of goddamn fun, the movie especially is one of the funniest and wittiest movies of that relatively awful time period of film Comedy. And I said what I said about comparing Batman & Robin (and Batman Forever) to those. And I mean it. wink

I loved Adam West's Batman. Still do. But there's no way in hell, unless an ice rink just got built down there, that Schumacher got anywhere near that coolness. You don't regurgitate concepts that were of their time. You do something new for today the way Snyder and Reeves did. For reference, look what happened when Bryan Singer tried to remake Superman but called it a sequel. wink

 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2023 - 11:38 PM   
 By:   drop_forge   (Member)

My favorite era of Batman is the 70s, particularly artists Neal Adams and Marshall Rogers. Batman was cool, professional, atmospheric, and stylish. He was not brooding or unduly grim. Frank Miller’s “Year One” impressed me as a callback to that time but I’ve rarely been impressed since.

The '70s was when O'Neill, Adams, Rogers, et. al., began crafting darker, moodier, more atmospheric Batman stories to get away from the overt campiness DC ordered in the wake of the success of the TV show.

Also, Year One was published in Batman #404-407 in 1987. The Dark Knight Returns and Year One were massive hits. I've no idea why certain people today try to play them down, because Bat-fandom was turned upside-down by Miller. I was there and wanted more. Everyone did.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 3, 2023 - 12:37 AM   
 By:   moolik   (Member)

Well..I admit that the movie is too long and gets weaker towards the end.Regarding the other movies Schumachers were all horrible and I know that he tried the "comic"vibe. But it was just ridiculous..just like those Adam West ones.Only my opinion.
We gotta honor Richard Donner for transporting the genre into serious matters!..and Nolan for going even one step further....THE JOKER was almost no comicmovie anymore but a TaxiDriver one, which worked very well.

The Music:

I dont understand the antipathy for Giacchino on the forum ( not THE BATMAN one).For me he is ..along with Desplat one of the very few composers holding up the candle.And his THE BATMAN score is working great in the movie and enhanced the vibe!
Elfmans BATMAN I always rank first, cause he delivered a great score in this time.Zimmer´s was also fantastic in a minimalistic sense.Goldenthal´s are also fine.So this character seems to push the buttons for all of them.THE JOKER..well it worked in the movie...and thats what counts.I would never listen to it besides it though.

 
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