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 Posted:   Sep 17, 2019 - 3:54 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

The MOST egregious case of a non-release of a classic score is FAFDM.
Because of rights issues with the distributor (UA) and Morricone's record label (RCA) no domestic release happened.

In Europe, a two sided lp with FISTFUL OF DOLLARS/ FEW DOLLARS MORE was released on RCA.
America didn't see FAFDM until a Morricone compilation on RCA 'THE LEGENDARY ITALIAN WESTERNS ' was released on cd (8 tracks).

A few years back an 'expanded' release came out that added 10 minutes to the short program.

here is what could have been released, what SHOULD have been released, and what still COULD BE RELEASED (the tapes exist):


For A Few Dollars More
original score composed by Ennio Morricone


Side A

1. Main Title; Theme from FOR A FEW DOLLARS MORE - 2:48*
2. Aces High - 1:18*
3. This Town Needs A New Sheriff - 3:30
4. Settling the Score - 3:24*++
5. Indio's Sermon - 2:08
6. Mortimer Lights Up - 1:15
7. Watchers Watched - 2:08*
8. Indiscreet - 3:40


Side B

1. Who Said I was Joking? - 1:27
2. Vice of Killing - 2:23*
3. The Heist - 2:21*
4. Death of Cuchillo - 1:53*+
5. Showdown - 2:08
6. Goodbye, Colonel - 1:43*

Total playing time: 36:09

* stereo/previously released
*+ mono/previously released
++ alternate film version runs 3:03

There are additional tracks and film versions that could make for a great 60 minute cd.
I made a personal version of 45 minutes.
Bruce Marshall


p.s. thanks to John Rimmer for his invaluable assistance!

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 17, 2019 - 4:03 PM   
 By:   Gary Radovich   (Member)

Perfect mastertapes DO exist but Morricone will not allow access to them for personal reasons (either unhappiness with the music or with the performances) so we will have to wait for a full and proper release.

 
 Posted:   Sep 17, 2019 - 4:05 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Perfect mastertapes DO exist but Morricone will not allow access to them for personal reasons (either unhappiness with the music or with the performances) so we will have to wait for a full and proper release.

yet we got FISTFUL...TESTA....WEST..GBU...NOBODY...
Makes no sense.
I am thru waiting. So are many fans who took matters into their own hands (like BLADE RUNNER fans did!)


BTW HE did ALLOW 10 addition MINUTES to be released on the GDM release - ALL from the last part of the film and mostly suspense cues.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 17, 2019 - 4:11 PM   
 By:   Gary Radovich   (Member)

With quality leaving a LOT to be desired. For whatever reason he won’t let record labels have access to the pristine quality masters.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 17, 2019 - 4:18 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)


I bought that UA LP when it came out in the late 60's and was not very happy with it. In 1970, when I was in Hong Kong, I did find the RCA LP A Fistful of Dollars / For A Few Dollars More and was now very happy! Yes, sure would like to see the complete score on a CD, now!

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 17, 2019 - 4:18 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

On the other hand, if it hadn't have been for that rights issue, the U.S. may have been denied the pleasure of this:

 
 Posted:   Sep 17, 2019 - 4:22 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

I remember buying that lp and discovering ,to my horror , that it wasn't the OST!

 
 Posted:   Sep 17, 2019 - 4:23 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

.. ... he won’t let record labels have access to the pristine quality masters.

Can he legally prevent their release?

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 17, 2019 - 4:25 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

I remember buying that lp and discovering ,to my horror , that it wasn't the OST!


Likewise, although some of the tracks are still OK listening in my book.

 
 Posted:   Sep 17, 2019 - 4:26 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

I remember buying that lp and discovering ,to my horror , that it wasn't the OST!


Likewise, although some of the tracks are still OK listening in my book.


Yeah but....NO POCKET WATCH THEME???!!!!!!

 
 Posted:   Sep 17, 2019 - 7:39 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Maybe one you cover artists can conjure up a.mock LP.
Use the template of United Artists Lps of the era for the back cover. ( e.g. GBU, BIG GUNDOWN)

That would be way cool!

 
 Posted:   Sep 17, 2019 - 7:43 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

I bought that UA LP when it came out in the late 60's and was not very happy with it. In 1970, when I was in Hong Kong, I did find the RCA LP A Fistful of Dollars / For A Few Dollars More and was now very happy! Yes, sure would like to see the complete score on a CD, now!

I ordered it from a shop in England and had it shipped to USA.
STILL have it!

 
 Posted:   Sep 18, 2019 - 3:04 AM   
 By:   BillCarson   (Member)

I have a feeling after the uk rca 1970 camden release (6 tracks each) a few years later a french version came out rca impact (7 tracks afod and 8 tracks fafdm)- single pic of eastwood on front - which had 1 extra track from afod the one titled square dance (the violin track for the soldiers column in Fistful) added and 2 tracks for fafdm Ace Poker and Bells added. My memory hazy. I got it anyway! Its here somewhere. The french track listing was re-released in 75 rca star series "western giants" - it had a posed pic of eastwood and marianne koch on front.

Its true it needs the full treatment - but often much whingeing about the last expandrd Cd release, they released what they could without morricone's say so and had no choice but to include the tracks with effects. The trouble is too many people have been spoilt with nothing less than pristine music - in my day i was grateful to have it on whiney old mono cassette!! smile

Ennio decision making never makes any sense to collectors. No point trying to even analyse his reasons.
The original will come out one day.

 
 Posted:   Sep 18, 2019 - 5:03 AM   
 By:   Chris Rimmer   (Member)

I saw the film in 1968, fell in love with the score, bought the Leroy Holmes version (sigh) and then the Camden Fistful of Dollars/For a Few Dollars More 12 track album in 1972. I also purchased the Hugo Montenegro Dollar Trilogy album
(bigger sigh) I was just desperate to obtain the music. I finally managed to purchase a copy of the Japanese cd with Square Dance and Musical Pocket Watch and Aces High which is all the music I thought we would get.

The GDM/Lionel Woodman release gave us 6 tracks from the end of the film which had never been released before, no Final Showdown though, which was a pity, plus several other tracks edited from a dvd.

There has since been a re-recording which isn't too bad and does include all the soundtrack although their rendition of the watch chimes leaves much to be desired.

I made a cover for the complete soundtrack;





The entire score runs for 68 mins, an it's a tragedy that it's never been released legitimately.

Maybe some day.

P.S. Glad you like it Bruce smile

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 18, 2019 - 7:53 AM   
 By:   paulhickling   (Member)

I saw the film in 1968, fell in love with the score, bought the Leroy Holmes version (sigh) and then the Camden Fistful of Dollars/For a Few Dollars More 12 track album in 1972. I also purchased the Hugo Montenegro Dollar Trilogy album
(bigger sigh) I was just desperate to obtain the music. I finally managed to purchase a copy of the Japanese cd with Square Dance and Musical Pocket Watch and Aces High which is all the music I thought we would get.

The GDM/Lionel Woodman release gave us 6 tracks from the end of the film which had never been released before, no Final Showdown though, which was a pity, plus several other tracks edited from a dvd.

There has since been a re-recording which isn't too bad and does include all the soundtrack although their rendition of the watch chimes leaves much to be desired.

I made a cover for the complete soundtrack;





The entire score runs for 68 mins, an it's a tragedy that it's never been released legitimately.

Maybe some day.

P.S. Glad you like it Bruce smile


It is indeed crying out for a full release. That back cover is a dream listing I imagine the last track is the song. Like everyone I got the various releases with the soundtrack (not bothered about those covers, I've heard the Montenegro album and have the Main Title by Holmes on a compilation of western themes) on including a two disc RCA release where it's twinned with Once Upon A Time In the West. I realise the Woodman release was a valiant attempt to give us all more material, and it's nice to have the Main Title with the sound fx on, but some of those cues sound like they're underwater lol!

Wonder why Ennio is SO resistant, when GBU was expanded including The Trio as a hybrid stereo album/mono film version. I love it of course, and am surprised how well it fits together with little or no distraction via the mix (the watch chime works wonders there forming a genuine link), but I would have thought that would have been something the Maestro might object to.

 
 Posted:   Sep 18, 2019 - 8:39 AM   
 By:   Chris Rimmer   (Member)

Paul, the last track is a reprise of the Main Title, just the same as it was in the film, I didn't include the song in that listing.

If you like you can e-mail me, johnrimmer.cd@gmail.com

I'd enjoy having a chat with another fan of this great score.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 18, 2019 - 4:04 PM   
 By:   Gary Radovich   (Member)

The only reasons EM would object to a proper release would either be his unhappiness with the music he wrote or with the performance by the orchestra...only he knows for sure. But he does have the masters so we can one day expect a full and proper release of this landmark score.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 18, 2019 - 4:33 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

On the other hand, if it hadn't have been for that rights issue, the U.S. may have been denied the pleasure of this:



Great album cover. And as we all agree, the cover art is more important than the music.

 
 Posted:   Sep 18, 2019 - 7:20 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Can someone airbrush that cover to what is SHOULD have said?

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 18, 2019 - 11:35 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

Can someone airbrush that cover to what is SHOULD have said?


 
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