Film Score Monthly
FSM HOME MESSAGE BOARD FSM CDs FSM ONLINE RESOURCES FUN STUFF ABOUT US  SEARCH FSM   
Search Terms: 
Search Within:   search tips 
You must log in or register to post.
  Go to page:    
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2019 - 10:55 AM   
 By:   Dana Wilcox   (Member)

Way back in the days of VHS tape, Paramount released a set called The Godfather Saga which re-assembled I and II into chronological order, beginning with what was a flashback from Godfather II where 9-year-old Vito and his mother are walking in a funeral cortege for his father, who had been murdered in a vendetta by the local Mafia don. I loved the sequential presentation vs. the original (disjointed) presentation through flashbacks as seen in the theatrical releases. I have the BD set of the theatrical releases and periodically re-watch I and II (let's not mention III), but would instantly buy a BD release of the sequential presentation.

 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2019 - 2:16 PM   
 By:   BornOfAJackal   (Member)

Dana Wilcox: Way back in the days of VHS tape, Paramount released a set called The Godfather Saga which re-assembled I and II into chronological order, beginning with what was a flashback from Godfather II where 9-year-old Vito and his mother are walking in a funeral cortege for his father, who had been murdered in a vendetta by the local Mafia don. I loved the sequential presentation vs. the original (disjointed) presentation through flashbacks as seen in the theatrical releases. I have the BD set of the theatrical releases and periodically re-watch I and II (let's not mention III), but would instantly buy a BD release of the sequential presentation.

Dana, that sequential presentation was actually issued by Paramount Home Video on LaserDisc, as a near-ten-hour-long set of nine discs. The only non-chronological aspect to it was Michael's flashback to Vito's return to Sicily to kill Don Ciccio (the murderer of his father and brother) just before Michael takes his revenge on Hyman Roth, et al.

If I have to pick a favorite, it's II.

 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2019 - 2:40 PM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

One and two are great, three is good too.

Just re-watched the movies maybe two years ago or so.
Biggest shame on III: to axe Tom Hagen for the obvious "replacement character" B.J. Harrison. Hamilton was good in it, but still: WTF?

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2019 - 4:44 PM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

If I'm not mistaken, I think Ebert liked III more than II actually.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2019 - 4:54 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I've seen all the films a couple of times, but for some reason never got into them. I can appreciate them for their historical significance and I can recognize their qualities, but it's never been something that's appealed very much to me, personally. So it's difficult to choose a favourite; I consider the three films one "work", one saga.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2019 - 5:13 PM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

Dana Wilcox: Way back in the days of VHS tape, Paramount released a set called The Godfather Saga which re-assembled I and II into chronological order, beginning with what was a flashback from Godfather II where 9-year-old Vito and his mother are walking in a funeral cortege for his father, who had been murdered in a vendetta by the local Mafia don. I loved the sequential presentation vs. the original (disjointed) presentation through flashbacks as seen in the theatrical releases. I have the BD set of the theatrical releases and periodically re-watch I and II (let's not mention III), but would instantly buy a BD release of the sequential presentation.

Dana, that sequential presentation was actually issued by Paramount Home Video on LaserDisc, as a near-ten-hour-long set of nine discs. The only non-chronological aspect to it was Michael's flashback to Vito's return to Sicily to kill Don Ciccio (the murderer of his father and brother) just before Michael takes his revenge on Hyman Roth, et al.

If I have to pick a favorite, it's II.



I knew it was on VHS but not laserdisc. There was a similar edit which ran for ( i think) one night on HBO a few years back, and then ran on their streaming service.


That being said, while Part 2 may have more scope and depth, the original film is the best. Part 3 has good moments, but is just unfortunate. Most of all the last shot which just stands out as kinda hilarious. frown

 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2019 - 11:22 PM   
 By:   Dana Wilcox   (Member)

If I'm not mistaken, I think Ebert liked III more than II actually.

This was the guy who wrote the screenplay for BEYOND THE VALLEY OF THE DOLLS...

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2019 - 11:27 PM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)

II

 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2019 - 6:35 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

The second film, as good as it is, and I do adore it, still resides in the shadow of Brando's masterful, immortal performance; and while De Niro did a fine job "doing" Brando, it reminds this viewer that Brando-as-Don Corleone is sorely missed throughout Part II.

When he wanted to be, Marlon Brando really was the Greatest Actor Who Ever Lived. Too bad he was mostly a fat, lazy bastard.

Godfather II is notable to me for being one of the few films of its time (Sinatra's Tony Rome movies, Dustin Hoffman's Lenny, Hackman's Night Moves being the others) that were filmed in my "native" South Florida. Hyman Roth lived in a house that one still sees a thousand times over in the Miami-Ft. Lauderdale-Hollywood (Fl) area.

I won the Godfather VHS set Dana Wilcox mentioned in a music shop trivia contest in the early '90s. Sam Goody records, I believe.

 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2019 - 10:08 AM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Speaking of Brando...
If you watch late 50s tv you can see all the actors who initiated him and James Dean ( younger actors) in their prime.
Last nite I watched Don Gordon doing him . . Ralph Meeker is another.
The.biggest copycat is the guy from MAN IN A SUITCASE. He WAS Brando.

Every young actor seemed to do the James Dean " you're tearing me apart" bit at least once!

 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2019 - 1:33 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Speaking of Brando...
If you watch late 50s tv you can see all the actors who initiated him and James Dean ( younger actors) in their prime.
Last nite I watched Don Gordon doing him . . Ralph Meeker is another.
The.biggest copycat is the guy from MAN IN A SUITCASE. He WAS Brando.


There's an episode of Johnny Staccato--"The Parents" with an actor named Frank Dana who practically has his textbook of "The Torn t-shirt of Acting" in his back pocket. He even has that "Brando Falsetto"!

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0199057/?ref_=tt_cl_t3

Let's not forget Burt Reynolds' dead-on Brando parody in The Twilight Zone episode, "The Bard."



Makes me wonder how many 1950s high school kids were the Brandos of their graduating class!

 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2019 - 2:58 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Yeah, that TZ has been mentioned before.
Whats great, is that Burt himself was the " next Brando" for awhile. He even looked like him!

 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2019 - 2:59 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Gotta checkout Staccato some day. Hard to find!

 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2019 - 3:49 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Gotta checkout Staccato some day. Hard to find!

It's $20.00 on Amazon. Have riotengine buy it for you:

https://www.amazon.com/Johnny-Staccato-starring-John-Cassavetes/dp/B003Z3C728

Johnny Staccato debuted 60 years ago yesterday.

 
You must log in or register to post.
  Go to page:    
© 2024 Film Score Monthly. All Rights Reserved.
Website maintained and powered by Veraprise and Matrimont.