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 Posted:   Aug 11, 2019 - 11:27 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Ive been watching some older movies lately and while I love HD it also makes you see things you were never supposed to see. Or never noticed before.

In "Logan's Run" you can clearly see the mouth and jaw of the actor inside the robots suit.
While watching "Forbidden Planet" you can see stage crew pushing down pieces of the "molten" door near the end of the film. You can also see the flesh colored bathing suite Altaira was wearing when she was supposed to be nude in the pool.

In "Star Trek TOS" the sets were removable. I've never noticed this before but in HD you can see the walls and other set pieces are about an inch off the floor.

Of course any film with models suspended by wires are much more noticeable as well.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2019 - 12:56 PM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

C'est la vie

 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2019 - 1:02 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

On the other hand...

Nip slip
Side boob
Panty malfunctions

 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2019 - 1:15 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Zoobs fake press credentials in MILK.

 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2019 - 2:31 PM   
 By:   Adam.   (Member)

The wires holding up the Martian war machines in the 1950's version of War of the Worlds.

 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2019 - 3:32 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

BillCarson toupee.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2019 - 4:33 PM   
 By:   Nightingale   (Member)

Ive been watching some older movies lately and while I love HD it also makes you see things you were never supposed to see. Or never noticed before.

In "Logan's Run" you can clearly see the mouth and jaw of the actor inside the robots suit.
While watching "Forbidden Planet" you can see stage crew pushing down pieces of the "molten" door near the end of the film. You can also see the flesh colored bathing suite Altaira was wearing when she was supposed to be nude in the pool.

In "Star Trek TOS" the sets were removable. I've never noticed this before but in HD you can see the walls and other set pieces are about an inch off the floor.

Of course any film with models suspended by wires are much more noticeable as well.


I don't think it's so much the HD (the 35mm theater film presentations of Logan's Run and Forbidden Planet easily matches HD quality) aspect as it is the repeated viewings (especially with a more critical eye as an adult viewer and wannabe filmmaker like 90% of us here) and the ability to rewind and freeze-frame scenes over and over again. My friend hates watching videos with me because I am always pointing anything like that out.

 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2019 - 4:45 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Ive been watching some older movies lately and while I love HD it also makes you see things you were never supposed to see. Or never noticed before.

In "Logan's Run" you can clearly see the mouth and jaw of the actor inside the robots suit.
While watching "Forbidden Planet" you can see stage crew pushing down pieces of the "molten" door near the end of the film. You can also see the flesh colored bathing suite Altaira was wearing when she was supposed to be nude in the pool.

In "Star Trek TOS" the sets were removable. I've never noticed this before but in HD you can see the walls and other set pieces are about an inch off the floor.

Of course any film with models suspended by wires are much more noticeable as well.


I don't think it's so much the HD (the 35mm theater film presentations of Logan's Run and Forbidden Planet easily matches HD quality) aspect as it is the repeated viewings (especially with a more critical eye as an adult viewer and wannabe filmmaker like 90% of us here) and the ability to rewind and freeze-frame scenes over and over again. My friend hates watching videos with me because I am always pointing anything like that out.


I was rather young when Logan's Run came out. Saw it in the theater. I never noticed the human mouth inside Box before. Maybe I did and don't remember.

I always knew Ann Francis wasn't nude in the pool scene from Forbidden Planet. (Never saw it in the theater) But it wasn't until my recent viewing in HD on a rather large television screen I noticed her body suit as she got out of the water.

The biggest surprise for me were clearly seeing the Star Trek TOS sets an inch (or so) off the floor in HD. I never noticed that before in my 50 years watching the series.

You're correct though as time went on I became a more sophisticated viewer and noticed such things on repeat viewings in other films.

 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2019 - 4:48 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

On the other hand...

Nip slip
Side boob
Panty malfunctions


And the opposite! Skin tight body suits and pasties are far more obvious in HD. Kinda kills the illusion.

 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2019 - 6:31 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

On the other hand...

Nip slip
Side boob
Panty malfunctions


And the opposite! Skin tight body suits and pasties are far more obvious in HD. Kinda kills the illusion.


Camel toe.

 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2019 - 6:33 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Ive been watching some older movies lately and while I love HD it also makes you see things you were never supposed to see. Or never noticed before.

In "Logan's Run" you can clearly see the mouth and jaw of the actor inside the robots suit.
While watching "Forbidden Planet" you can see stage crew pushing down pieces of the "molten" door near the end of the film. You can also see the flesh colored bathing suite Altaira was wearing when she was supposed to be nude in the pool.

In "Star Trek TOS" the sets were removable. I've never noticed this before but in HD you can see the walls and other set pieces are about an inch off the floor.

Of course any film with models suspended by wires are much more noticeable as well.


I don't think it's so much the HD (the 35mm theater film presentations of Logan's Run and Forbidden Planet easily matches HD quality) aspect as it is the repeated viewings (especially with a more critical eye as an adult viewer and wannabe filmmaker like 90% of us here) and the ability to rewind and freeze-frame scenes over and over again. My friend hates watching videos with me because I am always pointing anything like that out.


Your right, of course.
But, HD allows much shaper freeze frame capabilities.

 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2019 - 7:03 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

I prefer films that concentrate on character and dialogue rather than dated-before-the-film-is-even-released special effects.

This makes ANNIE HALL's Best Picture triumph over Star W_rs look all the wiser.

wink

 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2019 - 7:54 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I prefer films that concentrate on character and dialogue rather than dated-before-the-film-is-even-released special effects.

This makes ANNIE HALL's Best Picture triumph over Star W_rs look all the wiser.

wink


Seen one Woody Allen film you've seen them all. Same neurotic shtick.

 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2019 - 8:12 PM   
 By:   Metryq   (Member)

If it makes any difference, Box (the "robot" in LOGAN'S RUN) is a cyborg—he even says this in the scene.

 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2019 - 8:51 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

When Scream Factory released The Thing on Blu-Ray three years ago, I was startled to see a wire holding up the Blair-Monster's arm at the climax, something I had never noticed on VHS, DVD or even the prior Universal Blu. Sometimes movies can look TOO good, and the F/X seams start to show.

 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2019 - 9:15 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

If it makes any difference, Box (the "robot" in LOGAN'S RUN) is a cyborg—he even says this in the scene.

I didn't catch that. embarrassment

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2019 - 9:49 PM   
 By:   jenkwombat   (Member)

Woody Allen

 
 Posted:   Aug 12, 2019 - 12:09 AM   
 By:   Ian J.   (Member)

The screens we watch things on at home are much larger these days, as well as being far higher definition. So for TV series like ST:TOS anything that would not be easily seen in lo-def on a sub 20 inch screen will easily show up on 60 inch in 2K or 4K (or higher).

 
 Posted:   Aug 12, 2019 - 2:26 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

It might be that at least some of us watched some of those movies for the first time on old TV PAL/SECAM/NTSC standards, so in comparatively low resolution, that some things have not been noticed in movies all those years.

When older films are released on Bluray and/or 4K Bluray, they actually look much closer to how they were supposed to look and looked when they were first released. Classic 35mm film already has a resolution that's akin to 4K Blurays, so movies like CASSABLANCA etc. DID look as good (and sharp) as they do on 4K Blurays when they were shown back in their day on good screens (not all cinemas back in those days did have the best screens or projectors though).

 
 Posted:   Aug 12, 2019 - 2:58 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Woody Allen

That's a heckuva self-hating remark, considering how many FSMers look like him*. big grin

*Give or take 350lbs.

 
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