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General Discussion: "Cagney & Lacey" (Dana Kaproff, Ron Ramin, others)

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	Posted:	Jul 10, 2019 - 11:16 AM
	By:	Yavar Moradi (Member)

Yeah I'd already checked out his IMDb. It's just surprising to me (even though now I know he's only a couple decades younger than Riddle), that Mark (X-Files, including the current iteration) Snow wrote the pilot score for a show that was later scored by Nelson (60s Batman) Riddle.

Yavar


	Posted:	Jul 10, 2019 - 1:07 PM
	By:	Justin Boggan (Member)

SEASON 6:

"Schedule One"
By: Dana Kaproff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxA15cAzwIs

Highlights:

0:00 in.

2:54 in.

23:13/25:20/28:00 (there are some brief lulls in the cue)/39:06 in.

"Culture Clash"
By: Ron Ramin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xudJfMx2eng

Highlights:

0:00 in.

14:34/25:06 in.

27:02 in.

40:19 in.

"Sorry, Right Number"
By: Dana Kaproff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kt-X4HJIlk

Highlights:

27:11 in.

32:46/33:54/35:52/44:55 in.

"Disenfranchised"
By: Ron Ramin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCn7x6hQj8c

Highlights:

0:00 in.

2:02 in. A cue that starts out with child-like innocents, then starts to turn dark.

3:35 in.

12:16 in.

14:50 in. Upbeat but restrained brief montage cue.

20:30/26:06 in.

30:04 in.

44:09 in.

I think I cited every cue, so I might as well say the whole score should be released.

I've said it before, but I got to say it again: Mr. Ramin is a really talented composer.

NO LOAD FOUND.
"Role Call"
By: Dana Kaproff

"The Zealot"
By: Ron Ramin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJAmvLaJ4i8

Highlights:

0:00 in.

2:02 in.

13:42 in.

15:48 in.

20:47 in.

45:53 in.

I think I cited every cue, so I might as well say the whole score should be released.

"The Marathon"
By: John Debney
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgxfdRDUV4M

This is Debney's only effort for the series.

Highlights:

2:02 in.

13:07 in.

16:41 in.

20:35 in.

25:00/26:30 in. Short fast-paced spirited montage cue. The next one is similar (in the opening) and would naturally go together.

29:44/31:22 in. And after the commercial break.

38:28 in.

39:19 in.

45:30 in.

That's most of the score.

At the time he was doing a lot of Disney stuff, even Winnie the Pooh.
Sing along!
Yes it is true, he was scoring the Pooh, every day at Disney corner.

"Rites of Passage"
By: Ron Ramin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyOCBg_8jhA

Highlights:

0:00 in.

6:57 in.

10:00 in.

35:00 in.

38:52 in.

43:52 in.

46:32 in.

"Revenge"
By: Dana Kaproff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvbjRkyxPbw

Highlights:

6:33 in.

11:05 in.

17:18 in.

20:39 in.

35:54 in.

About 42:40 in.

46:16 in.

"The Rapist: Part 2"
By: Shirley Walker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sn2xy8Pn358

This is Walker's final effort for the series.

Highlights:

7:34/8:01 in.

30:05 in.

31:19 in.

40:54 in.

43:26 in.

44:33 in.

46:55 in. Yeah, it's a short outro cue, but it's nice.

That's everything except two short cues. It's good, but it's not a top tier effort. Maybe a borderline second tier effort.

Nothing says "Christmas" like an episode about a rapist.

Copied from my "The Shirley Walker Odyssey" thread:
https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=124520&forumID=1&archive=0

"Cost of Living"
By: Dana Kaproff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3SpbdX82Hw

Highlights:

0:00 in.

15:00 in.

6:49 in.

22:40 in.

34:24 in.

36:38 in.

"Waste Deep"
By: Ron Ramin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHFhrNaZMsU

Highlights:

2:02 in.

32:10 in.

33:48 in.

36:48/38:58 in.

46:28 in.

"Favors"
By: Dana Kaproff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uQcdBxCtEM

Highlights:

0:00 in.

6:22/31:08 in.

7:38 in.

34:52 in.

"Ahead of the Game"
By: Dana Kaproff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmuAcq3aFYE

Highlights:

0:00 in.

2:02 in. I'd probably skip this one on a set of season six scoring.

15:42 in.

39:28 in.

44:30 in.

"Easy Does It"
By: Ron Ramin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgy5qddC8Ac

Highlights:

0:00 in.

2:02 in.

12:49 in.

15:55 in.

28:47 in.

34:14 in.

40:32 in.

45:55/46:47 in.

"To Sir, with Love"
By: Ron Ramin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ce48chKexNY

Highlights:

0:00 in.

2:13/3:58/6:41/13:50/30:05/31:15/34:12/44:22 in.

16:54 in.

42:09 in.

I think I cited all the whole score (minus source pieces), so I might as well say the whole score should be released. The multiple examples one works in order, surprisingly, so it could be a suite.

"Divine Couriers"
By: Dana Kaproff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qRVnGntXfU

Highlights:

0:00 in.

28:47/30:41 in.

39:30 in.

45:19 in.

Old Despost: "I may be a Marxist, but a buck is a buck."

"Right to Remain Silent"
By: Dana Kaproff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mr_nrhxr9gw

Highlights:

0:00 in.

3:25 in.

13:27/18:36 in.

34:12 in.

"Special Treatment"
By: Ron Ramin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dwcym0txvR4

Highlights:

2:02/5:52/14:15 in.

8:35 in.

25:38 in.

28:49 in.

38:45 in.

"Happiness Is a Warm Gun"
By: Ron Ramin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZQFHWQmxxQ

Highlights:

25:20 in.

32:30 in.

39:40 in. Short but nice.

"Turn, Turn, Turn: Part 1"
By: Dana Kaproff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iN816l9BN_s

Highlights:

2:17 in.

16:51 in.

28:24 in.

33:23 in.

"Turn, Turn, Turn: Part 2"
By: Dana Kaproff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-0f4x-TJ6o

Highlights:

0:00 in.

46:21 in.


	Posted:	Jul 10, 2019 - 2:04 PM
	By:	Justin Boggan (Member)

Updated my above post.


	Posted:	Jul 11, 2019 - 11:23 AM
	By:	Justin Boggan (Member)

SEASON 7:

This is the final season of the show.

"No Vacancy"
By: Dana Kaproff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpMJggJJP8o

Highlights:

0:00 in.

2:02 in. Strings and solo piano, with some woodwinds.

7:29 in.

11:39 in. Brass huffs, snare and solo trumpet for a whimsical cue.

17:24/41:43 in.

44:19 in.

"The City Is Burning"
By: Ron Ramin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRx1p1sytQw

Highlights:

2:02 in.

7:40 in.

"Loves Me Not"
By: Ron Ramin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rePdH5vvS5w

Highlights:

0:00 in.

2:02 in. Mainly piano, flute, and cello.

11:00 in.

43:43 in.

"Different Drummer"
By: Nan Schwartz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7DFXHIRPm8

Highlights:

2:02 in.

17:46 in.

27:54/37:35 in.

45:43 in.

"You've Come a Long Way, Baby"
By: Dana Kaproff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTOHP7nNwfM

Highlights:

0:00 in.

2:02 in. Something completely different.

29:19 in. Bumper music.

"Video Verite"

There is no score in the episode, so no composer is credited.

It looks like with this episode, there is now a shorter opening credits theme; thirty-nine seconds.

"Greed"
By: Nan Schwartz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvH1VGxlv0Q

Highlights:

0:39 in.

2:28 in. Short.

36:28 in. Short.

"Secrets"
By: Dana Kaproff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6pm8_7hUGs (part of the pre-credits scenes are missing, si I can't cite the music as a highlight if it was worth it)

The longer opening credits are back.

Highlights:

1:34 in. The solo harp restaurant source music.

18:48 in.

24:02 in.

31:37 in.*

* = The Christmas episode "Play it Again, Santa", I forgot to mention, featured sudden soap-opera-like aging of the Lacey kids. Just look how old the oldest is now. Geez.

Hey, look, it took seven season for another woman to use the women's restroom other than Cagney and Lacey.

"Don't I Know You?"
By: Ron Ramin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emrbcERTFqc

Highlights:

0:00 in.

6:45 in.

22:53 in.

32:03 in.

"Old Flames"
By: Dana Kaproff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4iUv2xHcC0

Highlights:

8:35 in.

35:58 in.

43:37 in.

46:56 in.

"Trading Places"
By: Ron Ramin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLlRoD1LQfk

Highlights:

2:02 in.

9:21 in.

42:08/43:14 in.

46:23 in. To the end.

"Shadow of a Doubt "
By: Dana Kaproff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKl4YiOc-a0 (

Highlights:

2:02 in. I love these bouncy feel-good cues Kaproff (and Ramin) do, especially opening the episodes like that.

7:29 in.

15:17 in.

24:40 in.

34:22 in.

44:57 in.

"Hello Goodbye"
By: Nan Schwartz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcQ7tPFMujs

This is Schwartz's final episodic effort for the TV series.

Highlights:

20:35 in.

34:22 in.

44:03 in.

"School Daze"
By: Ron Ramin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMDc7JoA_V4

Highlights:

2:02 in.

6:13 in.

12:39 in. And the short cue after the commercial break.

18:12 in.

Lacey: "I had a dream about Paul Newman once."

"Land of the Free"
By: Dana Kaproff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGxOmdW0q7g

Highlights:

0:00 in.

35:44 in.

If I were compiling a set of season seven scoring, I'd skip this episode score and make room for better stuff, or more stuff from earlier seasons.

"A Class Act"
By: Ron Ramin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H_Sa7pROt0

Highlights:

2:02 in.

4:41 in.

19:39/22:40 in.

26:14 in.

39:44 in.

45:28 in.

"Button, Button"
By: Dana Kaproff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0qJDKlaOCM

Highlights:

0:00 in.

2:02 in.

24:38 in.

33:05 in.

39:39 in.

42:55/44:41 in.

"Amends"
By: Ron Ramin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJyj2lm3xJw

Highlights:

0:00 in.

12:13 in.

30:58 in.

43:52 in.

That's it for today. I'll finish season seven tomorrow and start the TV movies (if any are up).


	Posted:	Jul 12, 2019 - 9:23 AM
	By:	Justin Boggan (Member)

Continuing SEASON 7:

"Friendly Fire"
By: Ron Ramin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1DSgU3AgAc

Highlights:

0:00 in. Featuring a Rosenman tone pyramid at the end.

33:35 in.

45:09 in.

46:21 in.

I think that was all the score, so I might as well say the complete score should be released.

"Yup"
By: Dana Kaproff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XavmaZ8Rsg0

Highlights:

0:00 in.

14:30 in.

23:07/37:06 in.

41:49 in.

44:28 in.

"A Fair Shake: Part 1"
By: Ron Ramin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYvK1pYu1XQ

Highlights:

0:00 in.

6:25 in.

17:43 in.

23:50 in.

40:15 in.

45:34 in.

"A Fair Shake: Part 2" (series finale)
By: Ron Ramin

Highlights:

1:30 in.

12:32 in.

14:12 in.

15:22 in.

16:58 in.

20:25 in.

22:43/26:26 in.

28:55 in.

32:50 in.

46:20 in.

There's a lot of action music in this episode.

Time well spent, listening to all this wonderful music!


	Posted:	Jul 12, 2019 - 11:01 AM
	By:	Justin Boggan (Member)

TV MOVIES:

One disappointing aspect back then with TV movies of series that had ended years prior, was most or all the composers not being from the show and usually cheap and crappy sounding. All these TV movies were scored by composers from the series!

And a number of crew members from the series also worked on these, such and editors and a music supervisor.

"Cagney & Lacey: The Return" (1994)
By: Dana Kaproff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HhynwkKhd0

This is Kaproff's final effort for the C&L anything.

Highlights:

9:34 in.

12:38 in.

25:50 in. The plucky upbeat music doesn't sounds the same with synths.

50:10 in.

55:00 in.

1:18:12 in.

1:31:46 in.

The synths bring the score down. Over all it's not on the same level as Kaproff's work on the series.

Note: I could not find this on ASCAP or BMI, so I don't know if there was any help on the score.

"Cagney & Lacey: Together Again" (1995)
By: Nan Schwartz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZKYITlapaU

This is Schwartz's final effort for the C&L anything.

Highlights:

1:32 in.

About 3:45 in. There's so much SFX, I'm not sure when it began.

22:05 in.

1:22:02 in.

1:30:49 in.

This one actually uses Conti's theme music for the end credits.

Note: No additional composers on ASCAP or BMI.

"Cagney & Lacey: The View Through the Glass Ceiling" (1995)
By: Ron Ramin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYuaY0chyBs

Highlights:

0:00 in.

7:02 in.

12:39 in.

15:55 in.

18:33 in.

38:42 in.

48:34 in. Sounds like a Mark Snow cue from "The X-Files".

About 1:12:30 in.

1:17:58 in.

1:24:53 in.

1:28:42 in. Leads into the lovely end credits, which is not the Conti theme.

Note: I could not find this on ASCAP or BMI, so I don't know if there was any help on the score.

"Cagney & Lacey: True Convictions" (1996)
By: Ron Ramin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VW5uJovNJNY

And Ramin gets the honors of doing the last original-series C&L project.

Highlights:

0:00 in.

4:10 in.

31:09 in.

45:39 in.

47:52 in.

59:32 in.

1:18:29 in.

1:25:31 in.

1:30:07 in. Followed by the lovely end credits piece (not the Conti theme).

Note: I could not find this on ASCAP or BMI, so I don't know if there was any help on the score.

REMAKE PILOT:

In 2018 a pilot for a new series based off the old series, aired in September, but did not get picked up. The score has not been released. There are no samples on his website.

Just like when you look at the cast of the "Magnum, pi" reboot and say to yourself, "What the fuck?", you get the same thing with this pilot.

"Cagney and Lacey"
By: Alex Heffes

No video was found.


	Posted:	Jul 12, 2019 - 11:08 AM
	By:	Justin Boggan (Member)

ADDITIONAL/UNCREDITED/STOCK MUSIC COMPOSERS:

Culled from ASCAP and BMI. In no special order.

Bill Conti. (listed for "incidental music" by himself, sperate from the theme music)

Georgia Jeffries and John McCullough. (McCullough is also listed with John Mick, the music editor)

Tommy Oliver.

Gay DiFusco.

Rolfe Wyer.

William Peterson and Daniel Radlauer.

Douglas Fraser. (also listed with Leland Bond)

Robert Graham.

Terri Fricon and Leland Bond. (Fricon was a music supervisor on the series)

Mark Wood and Laria Louis.

Kevin Knelman. (also says so on his website; also listed with Patricia Knelman)

Jeff La Bansky.

David Kurtz.

James Latham.

Artie Butler.

John Davies.

Michael Stull. (listed for opening, closing and incidental music)

Felton Sayles.

Mark Snow is listed on ASCAP fopr the "end Credits", so he must have done an arrangement. so is Ron Ramin.

Nan Schwartz is listed for the "Main Title", so she must have done an arragenment.