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 Posted:   Mar 9, 2020 - 7:34 AM   
 By:   Laurent-Watteau   (Member)

I'm french so perhaps I have a lower I.Q. than yours but... when downloading Bruce's file, it's just titled:

"Yngve Sköld "Berceuse" for Wind Orchestra".

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 9, 2020 - 7:39 AM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

I'm french so perhaps I have a lower I.Q. than yours but... when downloading Bruce's file, it's just titled:

"Yngve Sköld "Berceuse" for Wind Orchestra".


Ha ha! I knew it was that Yngve bloke.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 9, 2020 - 3:10 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

I'm french so perhaps I have a lower I.Q. than yours but... when downloading Bruce's file, it's just titled:

"Yngve Sköld "Berceuse" for Wind Orchestra".


I'm baffled by this - I retitle the track, I put it into Dropbox - and I didn't think you could download from there - is that a setting I need to do? Yes, Yngve Skold - who is a wonderful composer and did work in the film industry in Sweden. I'll have another track. Someone clew me in about Dropbox and making something non-downloadable.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 9, 2020 - 3:46 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

There are other metadata fields in an audio file like the composer, title, name, encoder, etc. I can see its from itunes so maybe you use a Mac, but in a PC, if you click on a track's properties, you can see the metadata and remove it. At least folks wouldn't get that info.
I don't know anything about settings, but I had the impression downloading was what Dropbox intended. Nevertheless, maybe there's a Private-only setting for downloading that still allows the Public to play it. I've only downloaded when someone sends me files.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 9, 2020 - 4:06 PM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

LC, give us another klew about that good Muzak wot you put on the tube, ta.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 9, 2020 - 5:14 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

LC, give us another klew about that good Muzak wot you put on the tube, ta.

This was a pilot movie for a TVshow reboot. And though you haven't said anything about my impression - that is suggests Nelson Riddle - that could lead you to a solution. If anyone recognizes the time period and approximate subject matter of the Riddle style I mean.
In a way, you described the composer accurately because he doesn't have a signature. More of a chameleon (or jackal?) who adapted to changing styles, which I think is pretty cool if you look at his works. I can't say he's "good" in the classical sense of soundtrack composing, but I like his little riffs. This particular score was one of his better efforts, probably because TV demands hooks rather than themes.
I'm also waiting for someone (maybe Bruce) to guess my avatar. wink

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 9, 2020 - 7:49 PM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

Actually there are a couple folks here who could guess this in a second, but I just wanted to stoke interest.

Who are these 2?

Now we're doin' mystery FSMers? big grin

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 9, 2020 - 8:16 PM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)


It's the main title so it has a couple themes used in the...TV movie, to confirm Bruce's guess. I only know from googling that he was an arranger for a group, but his other soundtrack music indicates he has some jazz background.


TV movie? The YT clip is in stereo, isn't it? So … this music for a busted TV pilot was recorded in stereo; I don't think there were many such species between the late-'60s, the entire '70s and into the early '80s.

The music itself triggers Lyn Murray in my mind, but the clues imply somebody else … like a Pete Rugolo.

No idea what year this clip hails from.

 
 Posted:   Mar 9, 2020 - 8:18 PM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

I'm also waiting for someone (maybe Bruce) to guess my avatar. wink

North by Northwest for your avatar. Sol Kaplan?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 10, 2020 - 6:42 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)


It's the main title so it has a couple themes used in the...TV movie, to confirm Bruce's guess. I only know from googling that he was an arranger for a group, but his other soundtrack music indicates he has some jazz background.


TV movie? The YT clip is in stereo, isn't it? So … this music for a busted TV pilot was recorded in stereo; I don't think there were many such species between the late-'60s, the entire '70s and into the early '80s.

The music itself triggers Lyn Murray in my mind, but the clues imply somebody else … like a Pete Rugolo.

No idea what year this clip hails from.


You guessed right, it's Lyn Murray in stereo. If "busted TV pilot" means unused, that's only accurate in terms of broadcast order. It was shown after the reboot series was established, but it's still considered the pilot movie.
To me, the style suggests 1960s BATMAN which was my hint about the decade and subject matter (crime fighting duo). The movies for each series happened to be made the same year.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 10, 2020 - 2:51 PM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

My apologies in advance, Last Child, for my being so immensely stupid. I have had wine, but that usually makes me sharper - however... I feel rather embarrassed now... Are you still giving us hints about the name of the Lyn Murray TV Movie, or have you already told us what it is?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 10, 2020 - 3:11 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

My apologies in advance, Last Child, for my being so immensely stupid. I have had wine, but that usually makes me sharper - however... I feel rather embarrassed now... Are you still giving us hints about the name of the Lyn Murray TV Movie, or have you already told us what it is?

Not sure why you're self-deprecating. You guessed "telly" first. Bruce qualified "TV movie." Zardoz would probably say it's my clues that are stupid. Since it's Lyn Murray, maybe that narrows down the possibilities for him.
Murray also did the TV series music. I believe he only did a pilot and its series once in the 1960s, so it can be deduced by looking up his credit list on imdb. And you know, sometimes people include clues in their youtube description (I guess nobody looked). wink

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 10, 2020 - 3:34 PM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

I honestly didn't know if I'd missed your mentioning the title. I suppose it must be DRAGNET 1966 (1969, sic). I had a quick skim through the YouTube upload, and although I heard snippets of what was uploaded by you (LC), I didn't hear it behind the titles at all - just the well-known Schumann theme.

Really intrigued now by Lyn Murray. I've seen a handful of films which he scored, and little of them made much of an impression musically.

 
 Posted:   Mar 10, 2020 - 3:59 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Unless it was in one of those series that just burned off pilots, I don't see anything series on Murray's scoring credits where he only did the pilot and a TV movie.

But the music is good!

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 10, 2020 - 4:03 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

I honestly didn't know if I'd missed your mentioning the title. I suppose it must be DRAGNET 1966 (1969, sic). I had a quick skim through the YouTube upload, and although I heard snippets of what was uploaded by you (LC), I didn't hear it behind the titles at all - just the well-known Schumann theme.

The retail dvd mistakenly omitted the opening scene. Although later corrected, some youtube videos were ripped from the flawed dvd. There are complete uploads on YT:
https://youtu.be/gUDPyYQG6Qg

The mystery cue is for the opening scene that starts the movie, before the title credits/Schumann theme. It incorporates various themes from the rest of Murray's score. Whereas the Schumann is rarely referenced in the score. After all, this is a movie, not an episode. I'm sure I'll get grief for calling the mystery cue "the main title" when it's not the credits titles.


Really intrigued now by Lyn Murray. I've seen a handful of films which he scored, and little of them made much of an impression musically.

I've posted samples in the past from a couple noir that had enjoyable scores (The Prowler; Signpost to Murder). If you didn't like those, maybe his later stuff has some interest. And he's known for his Hitchcock Hour scores. I'm a selective fan, so I wouldn't blame you for not finding random scores that memorable. He did alot of comedy scores which I'll probably never check out.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 10, 2020 - 4:08 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Unless it was in one of those series that just burned off pilots, I don't see anything series on Murray's scoring credits where he only did the pilot and a TV movie.

I don't understand what you mean. Btw, Graham guessed it. It is a "fun" score, has alot of energy. Not too much police "procedural" riffs but it's amusing to hear them.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 10, 2020 - 8:52 PM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

You'll never guess this one.


How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Roll lollipop?

Lessee …

1) an American
2) another American

3) a Scotsman in Spain

Yep … three!

Lyn Murray's fan club: Last Child, haineshisway & ZardozSpeaks … awaiting 4th member Graham Watt after his 'Lyn Murray' journey/odyssey.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2020 - 5:22 AM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

Yeah, that prologue wasn't in the YT upload I looked at. The prologue itself seems quite strong for '60s telly - more than a hint of PEEPING TOM nastiness. By the way LC (if it was you) - How did you get rid of the dialogue and sound effects? They're so predominant in the prologue itself (continuous voiceover) that I had to struggle to hear the score.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2020 - 6:50 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Yes, it does have a surprisingly sleazy start.

How did you get rid of the dialogue and sound effects?

I didn't. The composer's tapes were donated to a university library, as usual. I've mentioned the American Heritage Center source in other threads. I think the labels have used them for other releases.

 
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