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I think the score is fantastic, the movie was, well, not a good as it could have been but not as bad as some make it out to be.
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[Newbies: highlight the blacked out text to read spoilers.] I still think it's the worst of the TNG films, and a chore to sit through. Its newness and "big screen excitement" made it palatable for me the first time, but on the small screen and knowing how it's going to unfold, not so much. Too much of the film is dreary and unpleasant. Not that this would ruin a good film, but the stupidity of killing off a great character like Mr. Data, and the cheap, intelligence-insulting cheat of instantly replacing him with a mentally challenged lookalike so Spiner would still have his job, is not a plus. Also, isn't this the movie where they "forgot" that Troi had already been telepathically raped in the TV episode "Violations"? How does a filmmaker think we won't notice that? Or that if such a coincidence occurred, the characters wouldn't acknowledge it? Spoiler alert for CHARLIE'S ANGELS: in that TV series, the beloved Kelly character gets shot in the head. Twice. And the second time it happens, which is quite a coincidence, nobody recalls that this very disaster has happened before. It's just not a serious, respectable way to produce an ongoing narrative about a group of people. It takes you right out of the drama. And that's how it felt in NEMESIS.
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It also bugged me that no one immediately said Lore! upon finding the Data head on the desert planet. Obviously it was there just to "leave the door open" in case you know who decided to return. Agreed. That was just WTF? Bugged me too. Obviously, the first thing I thought (and anyone probably would have thought) at that moment was Lore!
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I'd have to check the DVD, but I recall an interview in which someone expresses how happy they were that Nemesis had a screenwriter, John Logan, as well as Brent Spiner, steeped in Trek history and who knew all about the show's...lore? I read somewhere that Logan later admitted he just cobbled together a bunch of ideas from TNG episodes and (I think he said) other Treks. He got that job due to his reputation, took the money, and then half-assed it because it was just Star Trek. Or else he swung and whiffed, which can happen.
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Better than Insurrection! I consider INSURRECTION among the best of the STAR TREK films and certainly the best of the Next Generation movies.
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I remember reading the leaked script which hit the innerwebs before the film's release (probably one reason it never even had an opening weekend to speak of). There were references to Lore and more character stuff. It was a good read and I was disappointed so much of the little bits were cut or redone. Riker had an awesome parting shot when he won his fight: "Don't worry, hell is dark!" I actually really like this film. It's fun and exciting, has great moments, some of the best space action of the series and a wonderful score by JG. His closing theme was butchered in the final edit, but brings me to tears on album.
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Better than Insurrection! .....y the best of the Next Generation movies. Low bar.
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Is this the one with the Picard.clone?
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I just watched it again and rather enjoyed it. Tom Hardy is good in his role, the soundtrack is awesome but the movie as a whole is terrible.
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Ok, so that I'm clear after reading the critical consensus here: It's decent entertainment, the second best NG film and probably the fourth or fifth best film in the Star Trek franchise, overall not a bad movie, not as good as it could have been but not as bad as some make it out to be, the worst of the TNG films, a chore to sit through, fun and exciting, has great moments, but the movie as a whole is terrible. Got it!
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Ok, so that I'm clear after reading the critical consensus here: It's decent entertainment, the second best NG film and probably the fourth or fifth best film in the Star Trek franchise, overall not a bad movie, not as good as it could have been but not as bad as some make it out to be, the worst of the TNG films, a chore to sit through, fun and exciting, has great moments, but the movie as a whole is terrible. Got it! That's about right. Some people like it, some don't. I forgot to mention one of my many complaints, the personal transporter device. It's a brooch. "Brooch: an ornament fastened to clothing with a hinged pin and catch." While the transporter itself is scientifically implausible, at least the shipboard version could be a big machine with a large power source. The TNG idea of putting transporters aboard shuttle pods was a step too far as it was. But you go with it for the sake of Star Trek. Now in NEMESIS, the transporter is a brooch. So not only is the machine absurdly small, and for power, it has to run off a tiny battery that weighs nothing-- that's not even the worst of it. This minuscule transporter device is transported with the wearer. It has to de-materialize itself, then beam itself somehow, and re-materialize itself somehow, despite being reduced to disassembled atoms. It's an insult to our intelligence. It's the kind of slap in face that actually makes me angry. It's worse than anything in Star Trek V. It reduces Star Trek to the same theoretical level as I Dream of Jeannie. I have trouble forgiving that.
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