Film Score Monthly
FSM HOME MESSAGE BOARD FSM CDs FSM ONLINE RESOURCES FUN STUFF ABOUT US  SEARCH FSM   
Search Terms: 
Search Within:   search tips 
You must log in or register to post.
  Go to page:    
 
 Posted:   Apr 18, 2019 - 1:47 PM   
 By:   Melvin Stephens   (Member)

What can anyone tell me about: Alfred Hitchcock - The Classic Soundtrack Collection. Are these actual tracks? Or, re-recordings by some un-listed orchestra....

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 18, 2019 - 2:23 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

It's one of those 50-year-rule European releases that copies previously released recordings. These come from many sources.

Disc 1 - Vertigo - Looks like it's a copy of Varese Sarabande's 1996 release of the complete original soundtrack.
Disc 2 - North By Northwest - Looks like a copy of Intrada's 2012 release of the original soundtrack, without the extra tracks.
Disc 3 - Psycho - Likely the 1997 Varese Sarabande re-recording by Joel McNeeley
Disc 4 - The Birds / Marnie - Since THE BIRDS had no score, these tracks are probably bird sounds lifted from the mixed film tracks. MARNIE looks like the 1994 Tsunami bootleg of the original tracks.

The other miscellaneous Hitchcock film themes on these discs can come from any manner of previously released LPs or CDs--some taken from the mixed film tracks, others re-recorded.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 18, 2019 - 2:29 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

It's one of those 50-year-rule European releases that copies previously released recordings. These come from many sources.

Disc 1 - Vertigo - Looks like it's a copy of Varese Sarabande's 1996 release of the complete original soundtrack.
Disc 2 - North By Northwest - Looks like a copy of Intrada's 2012 release of the original soundtrack, without the extra tracks.
Disc 3 - Psycho - Likely the 1997 Varese Sarabande re-recording by Joel McNeeley
Disc 4 - The Birds / Marnie - Since THE BIRDS had no score, these tracks are probably bird sounds lifted from the mixed film tracks. MARNIE looks like the 1994 Tsunami bootleg of the original tracks.

The other miscellaneous Hitchcock film themes on these discs can come from any manner of previously released LPs or CDs--some taken from the mixed film tracks, others re-recorded.


There's no fifty-year rule on the McNeeley Psycho, so these assholes can be reamed on that, IF that's true.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 18, 2019 - 2:39 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

There's no fifty-year rule on the McNeeley Psycho, so these assholes can be reamed on that, IF that's true.


Agree. But I suspect they figure the chances of prosecution are slim. They may have thought they were using the 1975 Herrmann re-recording on Unicorn, but the track list matches up with the Varese and not the Unicorn. The Unicorn also wouldn't fall under the 50-year rule, so I guess if you're going to steal, you might as well go for the most recent recording.

 
 Posted:   Apr 18, 2019 - 3:19 PM   
 By:   Doug Raynes   (Member)

It's 70 years now, not 50. it was extended some years ago.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 18, 2019 - 4:30 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

It's 70 years now, not 50. it was extended some years ago.

But not retroactive - everything from 64 back is fair game for them - just as it's fair game for anything recorded in Europe for anyone in the US - funny how that works.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 18, 2019 - 5:19 PM   
 By:   Melvin Stephens   (Member)

Many thanks to all. One thing music lovers can count on...is coming here and receiving knowledgeable information. Interesting, Bob knew exactly where the music more than likely originated...

 
 Posted:   Apr 18, 2019 - 5:22 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Early Elvis Presley recordings have gone p.d.
So have film scores such as DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 18, 2019 - 8:34 PM   
 By:   MMM   (Member)

The 1975 re-recording is not allowable either.

 
 Posted:   Apr 18, 2019 - 11:15 PM   
 By:   Stefan Huber   (Member)

It's 70 years now, not 50. it was extended some years ago.

But not retroactive - everything from 64 back is fair game for them - just as it's fair game for anything recorded in Europe for anyone in the US - funny how that works.


63. The situation may be different in Canada and other countries, though.

I think the fact that people who can't spot the sonic differences between a 1960 (monaural) recording and a 1975 or a 1996 stereo recording says enough about the current (sad) state of the music industry.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 19, 2019 - 1:49 AM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

It's 70 years now, not 50. it was extended some years ago.

But not retroactive - everything from 64 back is fair game for them - just as it's fair game for anything recorded in Europe for anyone in the US - funny how that works.


63. The situation may be different in Canada and other countries, though.

I think the fact that people who can't spot the sonic differences between a 1960 (monaural) recording and a 1975 or a 1996 stereo recording says enough about the current (sad) state of the music industry.


That makes sense, I suppose - it was changed because of The Beatles.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 19, 2019 - 4:44 AM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

In the EU the new sound recording copyright came into effect end of 2013. Therefore everything which had already been public domain (after 50 years!) at that time remained public domain. These are the most decisive points:

"In September 2011 the EU approved a directive which extended the period of protection from 50 to 70 years for copyright and performers` rights in most published sound recordings. This change came into effect in the UK on 1 November 2013.

The extension of the term of protection applies only to those sound recordings that were in copyright on 1 November 2013 and to any sound recordings made after that date. The extended period of protection does not apply to those sound recordings where copyright has already expired."

Here you can find all further explanations:

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/copyright-in-sound-recordings/copyright-in-sound-recordings

In fact this means that all sound recordings made before 1st November 1963 are public domain in the EU.

In Canada the difference is that the new sound recording copyright came into effect only in June 2015 (so more than a year later than in the EU) and therefore the extension of protection from 50 to 70 years does not apply there to recordings whose copyright had already expired (after 50 years) in June 2015. This is the reason why for example Disques Cinemusique can digitally publish any old soundtrack records which had formerly been released till early 1965 without having to pay any licenses to anyone:

http://www.entertainmentmedialawsignal.com/the-complexities-of-canadas-extension-of-copyright-protection-for-sound-recordings

 
You must log in or register to post.
  Go to page:    
© 2024 Film Score Monthly. All Rights Reserved.
Website maintained and powered by Veraprise and Matrimont.