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 Posted:   Apr 18, 2019 - 11:13 AM   
 By:   jamesluckard   (Member)

VERY excited to see Malick working with another gifted composer on his new film, which apparently will be his first in quite a while to be a more conventional narrative film based entirely on a script.

It's a WWII period film about a conscientious objector imprisoned by the Nazis for refusing to fight.

Premieres at Cannes.

http://www.orange-studio.fr/film/426/radegung.html

 
 Posted:   Apr 18, 2019 - 11:26 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

If he survives. Malick has a tendency to go through two or three composes on each of his films, and the one he settles on will have only a portion of his score remaining in the film.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 18, 2019 - 11:36 AM   
 By:   jamesluckard   (Member)

If he survives. Malick has a tendency to go through two or three composes on each of his films, and the one he settles on will have only a portion of his score remaining in the film.

I feel like, by this point, composers know that going in. I don't think any of Desplat's score survived in the theatrical cut of Tree of Life (though a few cues surfaced in the extended Criterion Blu-Ray version), but Desplat had nothing but good things to say about the process, and his full rejected score was still released on CD.

Of course James Horner famously had nothing positive to say about his own process with Malick, but again his full score got a CD release, even though only portions survived in the film. And while it's a nice Horner album, in the context of the film, I prefer the classical pieces Malick replaced much of his score with.

And of course The Thin Red Line gave us the epic 4-disc Zimmer set we just got, even if it took 20 years. smile

 
 Posted:   Apr 18, 2019 - 12:47 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

A.narrative.film from Terry?!
Great news....if true#

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 18, 2019 - 2:30 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Fantastic composer casting. Very excited about this particular combo!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 18, 2019 - 3:33 PM   
 By:   paul rossen   (Member)

If he survives. Malick has a tendency to go through two or three composes on each of his films, and the one he settles on will have only a portion of his score remaining in the film.

I feel like, by this point, composers know that going in. I don't think any of Desplat's score survived in the theatrical cut of Tree of Life (though a few cues surfaced in the extended Criterion Blu-Ray version), but Desplat had nothing but good things to say about the process, and his full rejected score was still released on CD.

Of course James Horner famously had nothing positive to say about his own process with Malick, but again his full score got a CD release, even though only portions survived in the film. And while it's a nice Horner album, in the context of the film, I prefer the classical pieces Malick replaced much of his score with.

And of course The Thin Red Line gave us the epic 4-disc Zimmer set we just got, even if it took 20 years. smile



IMO the Horner would have been a better match for The New World than Wagner et al.

 
 Posted:   Apr 18, 2019 - 4:19 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

TNW was a.huge disappointment for me. It seemed like a film perfectly suited to Horner's strengths as a composer. But he turned in a curiously uninvolving effort.

Oh well.
Brm

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 18, 2019 - 4:49 PM   
 By:   jamesluckard   (Member)

If he survives. Malick has a tendency to go through two or three composes on each of his films, and the one he settles on will have only a portion of his score remaining in the film.

I feel like, by this point, composers know that going in. I don't think any of Desplat's score survived in the theatrical cut of Tree of Life (though a few cues surfaced in the extended Criterion Blu-Ray version), but Desplat had nothing but good things to say about the process, and his full rejected score was still released on CD.

Of course James Horner famously had nothing positive to say about his own process with Malick, but again his full score got a CD release, even though only portions survived in the film. And while it's a nice Horner album, in the context of the film, I prefer the classical pieces Malick replaced much of his score with.

And of course The Thin Red Line gave us the epic 4-disc Zimmer set we just got, even if it took 20 years. smile



IMO the Horner would have been a better match for The New World than Wagner et al.


We'll agree to disagree. smile

Much like 2001, I think THE NEW WORLD benefited enormously from having pieces of actual existing classical music, whatever other connections they may have, instead of just standard film score. And I think the few pieces of Horner's score left in the film, many of which are not even on his album, are gorgeous.

The piano piece as Pocahontas falls in love with Rolfe is breathtaking, but Horner left it off the album, it's only on the FYC CD.

Horner's score is lovely, but is more appropriate for a conventional movie. Of course Horner famously objected to the fact that Malick specifically DIDN'T want his film to be that, even though he had the material to assemble such a movie. Horner was clearly furious at this choice, but it's what I adore about the film, it has no interest in being traditional, it's all experiential and subjective.

It's interesting to compare The New World and Avatar, since they both draw from the same narrative root, and Horner scored them both. smile

 
 Posted:   Apr 18, 2019 - 6:57 PM   
 By:   Mark R. Y.   (Member)

A.narrative.film from Terry?!
Great news....if true#


As long as it's not too conventional and that the cinematic poetry Malick mastered in The Tree of Life is still on display.

 
 Posted:   Apr 18, 2019 - 7:41 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

A.narrative.film from Terry?!
Great news....if true#


As long as it's not too conventional and that the cinematic poetry Malick mastered in The Tree of Life is still on display.


Malick only makes good films when they are set in the past ( the worst part of TOL were the present day scenes)

Hoping for the best. I predict alot of dreamy flashbacks and v.o. narration by the main character ( who looks like a cross between Ben Affleck and Christian Bale)
smile

 
 Posted:   Apr 19, 2019 - 12:28 AM   
 By:   Cristian Lee   (Member)

I'm very excited about this collaboration. My favorite composer working with my favorite director is a dream come true.

 
 Posted:   May 19, 2019 - 1:28 PM   
 By:   davefg   (Member)

Clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWC4dVB8n1s Sounds like JNH(if so stunning!)


"Composer James Newton Howard lends ambience and depth between a mix of heavenly choirs and meditative classical pieces". https://variety.com/2019/film/reviews/a-hidden-life-review-terrence-malick-radegund-1203220352/

"James Newton Howard’s score is appropriately grand — though as usual for Malick, it’s abetted by the extensive use of existing classical music, from Bach and Beethoven and Handel to Henry Gorecki, Arvo Pärt and Alfred Schnittke". https://www.thewrap.com/a-hidden-life-film-review-is-this-where-terrence-malick-gets-his-mojo-back/

 
 Posted:   May 19, 2019 - 1:32 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

B" Malick gets.his.mojo back.."

Encouraging!

 
 
 Posted:   May 19, 2019 - 1:53 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Regardless of how the JNH score is treated, I'm looking forward to both film and score!

My colleagues are in Cannes right now, and attending the premiere. Should be getting reports from them soon. Malick himself seems to be absent, though?

Incidentally, this seems to have been an unusually strong Cannes year -- much like 2016, when I was fortunate to attend. Totally envious of everyone who got to be at the center of it all.

 
 Posted:   May 19, 2019 - 2:04 PM   
 By:   Mark R. Y.   (Member)

I so hope this film plays on the big screen where I live.

Does anyone know yet which Dvorak work is used in this?

 
 
 Posted:   May 19, 2019 - 2:46 PM   
 By:   Leo Nicols   (Member)

I wonder what Morricone thought of working with Malick on 'Days of Heaven' ?

 
 Posted:   May 19, 2019 - 2:49 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

I wonder what Morricone thought of working with Malick on 'Days of Heaven' ?

Well they played chess together!

 
 
 Posted:   May 20, 2019 - 1:05 AM   
 By:   hyperdanny   (Member)

An Italian movie critic I usually trust was at the Cannes showing likened the movie to "being sequestered for 3 hours" and he was ultimately unmoved: "the idea is good, even noble, but as ever Malick went overboard...3 hours of lawns, cows and cowbells"..he also said that an important European critic, sitting behind him, noisily snored through the whole thing.

 
 
 Posted:   May 20, 2019 - 3:22 AM   
 By:   MCurry29   (Member)

Regardless of how the JNH score is treated, I'm looking forward to both film and score!

My colleagues are in Cannes right now, and attending the premiere. Should be getting reports from them soon. Malick himself seems to be absent, though?

Incidentally, this seems to have been an unusually strong Cannes year -- much like 2016, when I was fortunate to attend. Totally envious of everyone who got to be at the center of it all.


Why are you looking forward to the JNH score when 99% of his scores in past 15 years are no good in your opinion? You are HILARIOUS. Ah yes- Alfred Schnittke!

 
 
 Posted:   May 20, 2019 - 3:34 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I'm looking forward to EVERY new JNH score, in the hope that that's the one.

 
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