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Feb 21, 2019 - 2:39 AM
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Leorx
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This was recently posted - https://pitchfork.com/features/lists-and-guides/the-50-best-movie-scores-of-all-time/ Pitchfork's top 50 film scores of all time. Apparently nothing Takemitsu, North, Goldsmith, Rosenman, Goldenthal, Newman etc did was good enough for top 50 inclusion. Also no Copland, Korngold, Alexander Nevsky. Yet they found room for Mica Levi's Jackie and a load of other highly questionable choices like Annihilation etc. Also, as much as I liked Under the Skin and There Will Be Blood, I would never ever rank them as highly as they did let alone make my top 50 of all time. I feel Greenwood and Levi are overrated currently, even though I liked Under the Skin and There Will Be Blood. Thoughts on their list?
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Feb 21, 2019 - 3:20 AM
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Bob DiMucci
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Apparently nothing Takemitsu, North, Goldsmith, Rosenman, Goldenthal, Newman etc did was good enough for top 50 inclusion. Also no Copland, Korngold, Alexander Nevsky. No Bernstein, Steiner, Waxman, Friedhofer, Schifrin, Moross, or Rozsa either. Or Kaper, Legrand, Lai, Horner, Tiomkin, Rota, Zimmer, or Jarre. No talents all. Nothing that any of them ever did was better than Jonny Greenwood's second best score.
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I wouldn't put too much stock in a list down put together on the playground during recess.
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Well, now that I've made my smart-ass remark, I thought I'd take a look at the list. Definitely not a top 50, it at least chose a lot of interesting scores, if not from the golden age, then at least from the 70s on up, and some foreign scores. For me, look at the list; investigate what I don't know that looks interesting, and don't take it seriously beyond that.
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I agree that it's a faulty list that disregards history, but let's face it: None of us--no matter how well-versed we are--could do a list that everyone would feel fairly represents the historical spectrum in film music. My list would be light on golden age titles, though Henry V, Best Years of Our Lives, Citizen Kane, Ghost and Mrs Muir would make it, along with some Waxman and Rozsa, Newman. It would also be light on scores from this century. Most of what I pick would be from 1950 through the eighties. A list that would also piss a lot of people off. We all have our favorites.
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Feb 21, 2019 - 11:40 AM
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sajrocks
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Apparently nothing Takemitsu, North, Goldsmith, Rosenman, Goldenthal, Newman etc did was good enough for top 50 inclusion. Also no Copland, Korngold, Alexander Nevsky. No Bernstein, Steiner, Waxman, Friedhofer, Schifrin, Moross, or Rozsa either. Or Kaper, Legrand, Lai, Horner, Tiomkin, Rota, Zimmer, or Jarre. omissions noted, but so is the fact that this is PITCHFORK’s top 50 and most of these albums fit in with their rock/indie/avant garde inclinations and their gen x/millennial readship. i’m with villagardens553, there’s a lot of stuff on this list i’m unfamiliar with and that i can’t wait to wrap my ears around.
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If this list encourages any of Pitchfork's readers to explore a score or two they don't know, then it's doing a service. Lists are almost always stupidly framed, but may be valuable to expose people to good work. This one does, even for an expert like me. So I can live with its lunkheaded framing.
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our favorite scores are subjective. cannot be otherwise. because we are we. there is not objectivity. cannot be with the way the music hits us. John Williams' music will always be my favorite music but I cannot expect others to feel that way. Of course that doesn't mean there are no other composers. Enjoy what you love and to hell with top whatevers.
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As far as I know these scores, they are certainly top notch; some would have been on my top 50 list too. It's actually refreshing to see a top 50 that's decisively many entries different from "the usual suspects". Sure, Goldsmith, North, Bernstein etc. are missing, and they may have been on your list, heck, yes, they'd have been on mine too. But I find this still an interesting and obviously thoughtful list, some interesting choices.
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I do like that Walkabout is on the list. A favorite for many Barry fans, Walkabout is not high on the list of Barry scores that most people know about.
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