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 Posted:   Feb 18, 2019 - 7:08 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

At the Oscars.

The nominees:

INDIANA JONES AND THE TEMPLE OF DOOM - John Williams

THE RIVER - John Williams

UNDER THE VOLCANO - Alex North

THE NATURAL - Randy Newman

A PASSAGE TO INDIA - Maurice Jarre


And the Oscar went to:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5sWsf_BzPk

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 18, 2019 - 7:15 PM   
 By:   Filmmaker   (Member)

INDIANA JONES AND THE TEMPLE OF DOOM

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 18, 2019 - 7:20 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

I never saw A PASSAGE TO INDIA, THE NATURAL or UNDER THE VOLCANO so I can't honestly pick, but I did enjoy both of Williams' scores that were nominated and thought they worked nicely in the films. I've heard THE NATURAL which I think is one of Newman's better scores and I've heard North's UNDER THE VOLCANO which is kind of in his SHANKS ethereal style if I remember. Not a great listen, but may have worked great in the film. Never really cared for most of Jarres music beyond his WITNESS and his famously epic LAWRENCE OF ARABIA and DR. ZHIVAGO so I probably wouldn't have voted for that.

I'd go for INDIANA JONES AND THE TEMPLE OF DOOM which expanded on RAIDERS and I really loved his Short Round Theme and his Children's Slave Theme. Truly Epic! TEMPLE OF DOOM is a Big Fun John Williams Score in a Big Fun Steven Spielberg Movie! Really makes it Great!

Yay Short Round!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe7Ol-3YO4M

And You Go Slave Children!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dny0-U29Ygw

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 18, 2019 - 7:28 PM   
 By:   DS   (Member)

I think this is one of the years the Academy got it right. I like all of the nominated scores, but the best of the five IMO is "A Passage to India."

 
 Posted:   Feb 18, 2019 - 7:59 PM   
 By:   Adam.   (Member)

I was rooting for Temple of Doom to win because I was a Williams fanatic at the time and I saw the film over 30 times. The consolation prize was that it won for visual effects. Looking back now I think 2010 should have won the special effects Oscar.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 19, 2019 - 12:52 AM   
 By:   keky   (Member)

Temple of Doom, but The River is a close second.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 19, 2019 - 3:32 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

All fine scores, and the winner is fine, but I guess I would go for THE RIVER, with TEMPLE OF DOOM second.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 19, 2019 - 8:10 AM   
 By:   villagardens553   (Member)

I love Under the Volcano, with its Day of the Dead main title, but I'm good with A Passage to India for two reasons:

1) a great score
2) Jarre's acceptance speech (in a year that Amadeus was sweeping the oscars, Jarre said something like "I'm glad Mozart wasn't eligible this year."

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 19, 2019 - 8:35 AM   
 By:   Bill in Portland Maine   (Member)

As soon as I heard the blandness of Jarre's effort for "Passage to India," I knew it was going to win the Oscar, and I dreaded every second up until the moment it inevitably happened. It was not deserved, but its connection to David Lean's final film gave it the perceived gravitas that's like catnip to Academy voters. (For the record, his contribution to "Top Secret" that same year was superior.)

Under the Volcano? Nah. No way. North deserved Oscars, but not for that.

Temple of Doom was big and noisy in all the best ways. But despite boasting a scene with a literal beating heart, the score itself lacked heart. Still, a great listen if you want to get your pulse pounding. (Adding: His loss in 1981 to Vangelis was infuriating. Raiders was the indisputable best score in every way that year. The way Williams landed beats to match the action was insane...beyond genius level.)

I have a real soft spot for "The River," and I think it's one of Williams' most under-appreciated scores. It's full of heart. The "Ancestral Home" cut alone is classic lump-in-the-throat stuff, and the entire effort is classic Williams Americana. Someone has GOT to get this released on CD.

But Randy Newman ultimately gets my vote. The Natural (minus the cheesy synthesized version of the main theme---not used in the film---which inexplicably shared a Grammy with Williams' Olympic Theme that year) out-Americana'd Williams. It supported that lovely film beautifully and for my money is the most enjoyable of the nominees to listen to from start to finish. I consider it Newman's finest score. He nailed it.

Really robbed that year: Elmer Bernstein, whose classic "Ghostbusters" score should've been on the list in place of North's. That movie does not exist without Elmer's contribution.

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 Posted:   Feb 19, 2019 - 8:38 AM   
 By:   Dr. Nigel Channing   (Member)

I have to agree with Bill. THE NATURAL is an all-time classic. TEMPLE OF DOOM also wonderful.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 19, 2019 - 11:41 AM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)

THE NATURAL

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 19, 2019 - 12:05 PM   
 By:   knisper.shayan   (Member)

"a passage to india" is a very overrated score; to me a score without soul or the the spirit of india.

i would have gone for "once upon a time in america" ;-)) or "indiana jones" !

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 19, 2019 - 12:23 PM   
 By:   BBoulle   (Member)

Nothing better than Roy Hobbs using the Savoy Special to smash the lights at the old Buffalo War Memorial Stadium. Sparks flying, crowd cheering, and Randy Newman at his best. The others aren't close.

 
 Posted:   Feb 19, 2019 - 12:28 PM   
 By:   Lokutus   (Member)

Jarre by far... followed by Randy Newman.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 19, 2019 - 1:22 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

It's definitely Jarre and a matter of taste/choice. I love Jarre's JESUS OF NAZARETH and I remember buying the LP of his CROSSED SWORDS.

Here's a passage from PASSAGE:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9bFvf1JtW0

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 19, 2019 - 1:34 PM   
 By:   townerbarry   (Member)

The Academy got it right, even way back when...But Williams The River is one of his best of not being bombastic and truly captured the mood of the film. Beautiful guitar work..and flute..I hope. Mike Matessino finds the original tapes and releases the entire film Score.

The Tempke of Doom..It is on a different level..truly good score of John Williams..and for Freaking sakes..could someone release that ending track in its entirety...wouldn’t that be Freaking nice!

 
 Posted:   Feb 19, 2019 - 2:29 PM   
 By:   johnonymous86   (Member)



Temple of Doom was big and noisy in all the best ways. But despite boasting a scene with a literal beating heart, the score itself lacked heart. Still, a great listen if you want to get your pulse pounding. (Adding: His loss in 1981 to Vangelis was infuriating. Raiders was the indisputable best score in every way that year. The way Williams landed beats to match the action was insane...beyond genius level.)



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Agreed about Raiders--it's a masterpiece and I think the academy knew that so they nominated TOD to make up for it--very rare for sequel scores to win. TOD is top-drawer fun-mode Williams but it's by no means better than Raiders, which as stated, is technically amazing and a melodic tour-de-force in all the best ways.

As for the other choices, if I was alive back then, I would have:

1. hoped for TOD
2. Been happy with The Natural
3. Expected Passage to India

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 19, 2019 - 6:29 PM   
 By:   Loverozsa   (Member)

Temple Of Doom Or The Natural for me.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 20, 2019 - 2:44 AM   
 By:   clayhenry   (Member)

I think this is one of the years the Academy got it right. I like all of the nominated scores, but the best of the five IMO is "A Passage to India."

I agree. Great score!

 
 Posted:   Feb 20, 2019 - 5:07 AM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)

I was rooting for Temple of Doom to win because I was a Williams fanatic at the time and I saw the film over 30 times. The consolation prize was that it won for visual effects. Looking back now I think 2010 should have won the special effects Oscar.

I think the Academy's tendency to favour movies set in the "real world" come the FX Oscar leads to some odd picks. Gladiator.

 
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