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 Posted:   May 13, 2019 - 10:55 AM   
 By:   jonathan_little   (Member)

That Big Country box looks like it should house a tape reel. smile

I did get an email confirmation from Super Deluxe Shop upon ordering. They also sent out a more recent email about the delay due to the artwork issue.

 
 Posted:   May 13, 2019 - 11:12 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I long for the nostalgia of seeing golden age scores coming our way; NOT for the nostalgia of vinyl LP records. 2019 has been a dismal year so far for golden age fans. I hope Kritzerland , for one label, will turn things around soon.

I could be wrong, but I think Kritzerland is the only label who's thrown a few bones to Golden Age fans this year so far (The Cardinal remastered, Rashomon/Death of a Salesman/Laurette remastered). It sure would be nice to get another big Golden Age premiere release. Last big one I remember (besides Kritz's The Gay Amigo at the end of last year...Glasser's not really my thing but westerns are so I may give in at some point) was Intrada's incredible 4-disc 11-score Franz Waxman set they released the same day as Damnation Alley...but that's a couple years ago now.

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   May 13, 2019 - 11:19 AM   
 By:   joec   (Member)

I long for the nostalgia of seeing golden age scores coming our way; NOT for the nostalgia of vinyl LP records. 2019 has been a dismal year so far for golden age fans. I hope Kritzerland , for one label, will turn things around soon.

I could be wrong, but I think Kritzerland is the only label who's thrown a few bones to Golden Age fans this year so far (The Cardinal remastered, Rashomon/Death of a Salesman/Laurette remastered). It sure would be nice to get another big Golden Age premiere release. Last big one I remember (besides Kritz's The Gay Amigo at the end of last year...Glasser's not really my thing but westerns are so I may give in at some point) was Intrada's incredible 4-disc 11-score Franz Waxman set they released the same day as Damnation Alley...but that's a couple years ago now.

Yavar


There was also that incredible Max Steiner set from BYU, CAGED. Both this the Waxman set are my 2 most listened to in recent months. Wish we could have another soon.

 
 Posted:   May 13, 2019 - 11:50 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Well if we're talking last year, there was the even-better Way of a Gaucho by Sol Kaplan!

http://www1.screenarchives.com/title_detail.cfm/ID/35374/WAY-OF-A-GAUCHO/

(At least, I personally like Sol Kaplan better than Max Steiner, though I agree that was an impressive set.)

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   May 13, 2019 - 11:56 AM   
 By:   Roger Feigelson   (Member)

I long for the nostalgia of seeing golden age scores coming our way; NOT for the nostalgia of vinyl LP records. 2019 has been a dismal year so far for golden age fans. I hope Kritzerland , for one label, will turn things around soon.

I could be wrong, but I think Kritzerland is the only label who's thrown a few bones to Golden Age fans this year so far (The Cardinal remastered, Rashomon/Death of a Salesman/Laurette remastered). It sure would be nice to get another big Golden Age premiere release. Last big one I remember (besides Kritz's The Gay Amigo at the end of last year...Glasser's not really my thing but westerns are so I may give in at some point) was Intrada's incredible 4-disc 11-score Franz Waxman set they released the same day as Damnation Alley...but that's a couple years ago now.

Yavar


Does Johnny Tremain count?

 
 
 Posted:   May 13, 2019 - 11:59 AM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)

Well if we're talking last year, there was the even-better Way of a Gaucho by Sol Kaplan!

http://www1.screenarchives.com/title_detail.cfm/ID/35374/WAY-OF-A-GAUCHO/

(At least, I personally like Sol Kaplan better than Max Steiner, though I agree that was an impressive set.)

Yavar




MAX STEINER RULES!!! smile

 
 Posted:   May 13, 2019 - 12:01 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

You're right Roger -- I completely spaced about Intrada's Johnny Tremain! (Sorry)
http://store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.11783/.f

And maybe it doesn't *quite* qualify as Golden Age, but the George Duning twofer from Quartet was fairly recent and Duning was primarily a Golden Age composer (it's not like his style significantly changed post-1960 or something):
http://www.quartetrecords.com/who-s-been-sleeping-in-my-bed.html

Yavar

 
 Posted:   May 13, 2019 - 12:02 PM   
 By:   chriss   (Member)

Last big one I remember (besides Kritz's The Gay Amigo at the end of last year...Glasser's not really my thing but westerns are so I may give in at some point)

For me the best Glasser album on Kritzerland so far!

 
 Posted:   May 13, 2019 - 12:14 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Yeah, and I'd heard some more that it exhibited more....subtlety(?) than typical for Glasser.

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   May 13, 2019 - 12:31 PM   
 By:   .   (Member)


Does Johnny Tremain count?





Not for me. Listening to the absolutely non-musical, extended spells of featureless and monotonous military drumming makes the CD a pain to listen to, whatever age it belongs to.

 
 Posted:   May 13, 2019 - 12:34 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Can't you just program out the offending track(s)? Or are you saying you characterize the entire score that way?

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   May 13, 2019 - 12:37 PM   
 By:   .   (Member)

Can't you just program out the offending track(s)? Or are you saying you characterize the entire score that way?

Yavar



Not when they reappear as integral, distracting interludes within a track. Like the otherwise-excellent "The Battle" track. Even if the drums tie-in with the visuals, what sounds like endless-loop sections of 20 or 30 bland, unaccompanied drumbeats at a time could have been edited down to a lesser number for musical considerations. Anyway, this isn't a Johnny Tremain thread so I'll say no more.

 
 Posted:   May 13, 2019 - 2:03 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Not when they reappear as integral, distracting interludes within a track. Like the otherwise-excellent "The Battle" track. Even if the drums tie-in with the visuals, what sounds like endless-loop sections of 20 or 30 bland, unaccompanied drumbeats at a time could have been edited down to a lesser number for musical considerations.

Thanks for the explanation. It's interesting because you seem to like the score in general then; it's just the presentation (integration of source music, if you will) which you take issue with.

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   May 13, 2019 - 5:05 PM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)


Does Johnny Tremain count?





Not for me. Listening to the absolutely non-musical, extended spells of featureless and monotonous military drumming makes the CD a pain to listen to, whatever age it belongs to.


I am a fan of most golden age film scores, but I have to agree with your above comment. JOHNNY TREMAIN was a CD that I didn't purchase. There was nothing melodically memorable about the score. You've got to remember that it was originally conceived for The Disney weekly TV program. As a film collector also I played my copy of the film and I was not impressed.

 
 
 Posted:   May 13, 2019 - 5:14 PM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)

Far off this topic, but I hope the future Friedhofer that Roger mentioned will be a golden age score to be excited about. Intrada has provided us with many great golden age scores and there are still many of us still kicking who look forward to more in the future.

 
 
 Posted:   May 15, 2019 - 10:53 AM   
 By:   Jim Doherty   (Member)

How the heck did this thread turn into nearly a full page of unrelated topics?

Anyway, I received my copy of MARNIE today. I originally pre-ordered it through that site mentioned on FSM, "Super Deluxe Edition". Then, I found out out I could get it $20.00 cheaper through Amazon in Germany, and ordered it through them. I cancelled the order with Super Deluxe Editions. I am very glad I did so. While other people are still waiting for their delayed copies (because Stylotone had to re-press the LP and CD covers because they accidentally originally featured a shot of Tippi Hedren from THE BIRDS instead MARNIE), I got a collector's item version with the original incorrect THE BIRDS cover art.

Although I do not like Stylotone's "YOU HAVE TO BUY IT ALL" packaging strategy, they did a pretty good job here. You get a 2-LP set on dark red vinyl (which I will probably never put on my turntable), a 45 with Nat King Cole's vocal rendition of the main theme (which I already had on an original Capitol 45, although the one presented on Stylotone seems to be a different recording, to my ears), a CD of the score (same as the LP contents, plus three unused cues), a nice faked-up but original-looking 30" x 40" British poster, plus a download of the score. Unfortunately, this download does not contain any raw session tracks as Stylotone's TWISTED NERVE did. It merely replicates what you get in the physical package. I regret that Stylotone did not place the unused cues within the complete score instead of putting them at the end of the CD as bonus cues.

I have heard some people claim that some cuts feature premature fades that delete or harm some of the music. I will say that most of tracks do not noticeably exhibit this problem; however, at least track 6 fades out so early, it actually eliminates the last few notes of the cue, and track 35 starts fading out on what should be a fortissimo climax. There may be others I have not yet detected.

Also, some have commented that the sound is a bit "muffled." I must agree on this point. Prior to this release, I had heard a "private" release of these stereo tracks which gave a keener edge to the violins and brass. It may be just a personal listening bias, but I thought that brighter edge added more to the listening experience.

Further news: The two LPs are cut at 45 RPM instead of 33 1/3 RPM, for better sound quality. In other words, the records are the size of standard LPs, but you have to play them at 45 RPM.

 
 
 Posted:   May 24, 2019 - 11:26 AM   
 By:   John McMasters   (Member)

Just received my shipping notice from SuperDeluxeShop that my copy is on the way. Just an FYI for those who purchased through that vendor.

 
 Posted:   May 24, 2019 - 11:51 AM   
 By:   Essankay   (Member)

I received my copy of MARNIE today.

...I have heard some people claim that some cuts feature premature fades that delete or harm some of the music. I will say that most of tracks do not noticeably exhibit this problem; however, at least track 6 fades out so early, it actually eliminates the last few notes of the cue, and track 35 starts fading out on what should be a fortissimo climax. There may be others I have not yet detected.

Also, some have commented that the sound is a bit "muffled." I must agree on this point. Prior to this release, I had heard a "private" release of these stereo tracks which gave a keener edge to the violins and brass. It may be just a personal listening bias, but I thought that brighter edge added more to the listening experience.



Ah, if only Intrada had been allowed to handle this project... frown

 
 
 Posted:   May 24, 2019 - 12:28 PM   
 By:   paul rossen   (Member)

I received my copy of MARNIE today.

...I have heard some people claim that some cuts feature premature fades that delete or harm some of the music. I will say that most of tracks do not noticeably exhibit this problem; however, at least track 6 fades out so early, it actually eliminates the last few notes of the cue, and track 35 starts fading out on what should be a fortissimo climax. There may be others I have not yet detected.

Also, some have commented that the sound is a bit "muffled." I must agree on this point. Prior to this release, I had heard a "private" release of these stereo tracks which gave a keener edge to the violins and brass. It may be just a personal listening bias, but I thought that brighter edge added more to the listening experience.



Ah, if only Intrada had been allowed to handle this project... frown[/

Then I would have purchased Marnie. Just cancelled my order due the negative press and high cost. Waited so many years for the release of Marnie but now I'll use the funds for something else...

 
 
 Posted:   May 25, 2019 - 4:16 AM   
 By:   siriami   (Member)

My updated cover copy of "Marnie" from Super Deluxe Shop arrived here in Scotland this morning. Nice of them to include the original incorrect covers for both the CD and the vinyl album as well. All in all, a superb package - well worth the extra month's wait!

Alistair

 
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