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 Posted:   Feb 22, 2019 - 9:41 PM   
 By:   Paul MacLean   (Member)


We're never going to get a cue by cue break down because I'm guessing such a thing doesn't exist.


One would need only to examine their respective sketches to put one together though.

A couple of years ago, over on JWFan, someone posted links to pages of two actual sketches from the CoS score -- "1M1 Prologue rev" by John Williams, and "8M2 A insert 'The Chamber Opens'" by William Ross. The handwriting on the former is that of Williams; the handwriting on the latter is different -- Ross obviously.

Scroll down about halfway down the thread to see the post with the images...

http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/13552-what-exactly-did-william-ross-do-in-harry-potter-the-chamber-of-secrets/&page=7

So we know Williams wrote the main title anyway, but I personally would love to know who worked on each specific cue. It's certainly of historic interest.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 23, 2019 - 12:13 AM   
 By:   Marcato   (Member)


We're never going to get a cue by cue break down because I'm guessing such a thing doesn't exist.


One would need only to examine their respective sketches to put one together though.

A couple of years ago, over on JWFan, someone posted links to pages of two actual sketches from the CoS score -- "1M1 Prologue rev" by John Williams, and "8M2 A insert 'The Chamber Opens'" by William Ross. The handwriting on the former is that of Williams; the handwriting on the latter is different -- Ross obviously.

Scroll down about halfway down the thread to see the post with the images...

http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/13552-what-exactly-did-william-ross-do-in-harry-potter-the-chamber-of-secrets/&page=7

So we know Williams wrote the main title anyway, but I personally would love to know who worked on each specific cue. It's certainly of historic interest.



I Got Those sketch and though i have not looked at it in A long time i’m pretty sure THE CHAMBER DOOR OPENS also is JW

 
 Posted:   Feb 23, 2019 - 1:30 AM   
 By:   Steve H   (Member)


So we know Williams wrote the main title anyway, but I personally would love to know who worked on each specific cue. It's certainly of historic interest.


Agreed, I find it all fascinating.


Got Those sketch and though i have not looked at it in A long time i’m pretty sure THE CHAMBER DOOR OPENS also is JW

I thought that was one of the tracked cues from HP1?

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 23, 2019 - 4:36 AM   
 By:   Marcato   (Member)


So we know Williams wrote the main title anyway, but I personally would love to know who worked on each specific cue. It's certainly of historic interest.


Agreed, I find it all fascinating.


Got Those sketch and though i have not looked at it in A long time i’m pretty sure THE CHAMBER DOOR OPENS also is JW

I thought that was one of the tracked cues from HP1?



No there is a sketch but I have read another place that the composed music was too short and therefor there was material liftet from HP1


so that would have been Ross that could have taken care of that smile

 
 Posted:   Feb 27, 2019 - 4:15 PM   
 By:   Steve H   (Member)

This may have been answered before and I couldnt find any info regarding it in the booklets in the HP box but does anyone know why the LSO never got a credit on the original Chamber of Secrets album?

 
 Posted:   Feb 27, 2019 - 5:35 PM   
 By:   Frank Vincent   (Member)

This may have been answered before and I couldnt find any info regarding it in the booklets in the HP box but does anyone know why the LSO never got a credit on the original Chamber of Secrets album?

They didn't? Checking my copy... the LSO is listed on the back and in the booklet. I have the European pressing.

 
 Posted:   Feb 27, 2019 - 6:12 PM   
 By:   Steve H   (Member)

This may have been answered before and I couldnt find any info regarding it in the booklets in the HP box but does anyone know why the LSO never got a credit on the original Chamber of Secrets album?

They didn't? Checking my copy... the LSO is listed on the back and in the booklet. I have the European pressing.


My bad. I never had the original album but had never noticed a LSO credit on the front cover. However just checking through my Williams album collection that was not always the case.
Thanks.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 27, 2019 - 6:58 PM   
 By:   connorb93   (Member)

Didn't the LSO do all 3?

Also, can anyone tell me where to find "Secrets of the Castle" from the original Azkaban album on this new edition?

 
 Posted:   Feb 28, 2019 - 3:43 AM   
 By:   Josh "Swashbuckler" Gizelt   (Member)

Didn't the LSO do all 3?

The LSO is officially credited as performing on the second score only. That said, I expect much overlap of the players on all three. Too bad there usually isn't a listing of orchestra personnel for London scores.


Also, can anyone tell me where to find "Secrets of the Castle" from the original Azkaban album on this new edition?

“Secrets of the Castle” is made up of two separate cues from the film.

The first part is the cue “3m12 Revised The Great Hall Ceiling,” which is part of “The Big Doors and the Great Hall Ceiling” on the LLL set. This is the scene in which the students are sleeping in the Great Hall and Dumbledore takes reports on the search for Black, and waxes poetic about dreams, and the film's seasonal act transition.

The second part is the cue 2m9+10 “Rainy Nights, Dementors, and Birds,” which is part of “Trouble Takes On Many Forms” on the LLL set. This is the transition from the pull-out from Gryffindor Tower with Dementors guarding the grounds, to the bird happily flittering about the Hogwarts grounds until it has an encounter the Whomping Willow (scored to a longer cut of the scene that is on the DVD and Blu-ray supplements).

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 28, 2019 - 5:52 AM   
 By:   jenkwombat   (Member)

Didn't the LSO do all 3?

The LSO is officially credited as performing on the second score only. That said, I expect much overlap of the players on all three. Too bad there usually isn't a listing of orchestra personnel for London scores.


I never knew that! Does anyone know all the scores by John Williams and the LSO? The ones I now know are:

Star Wars
The Fury
Superman
Dracula
The Empire Strikes Back
Raider of the Lost Ark
Return of the Jedi
The Phantom Menace
Attack of the Clones
Revenge of the Sith
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 28, 2019 - 6:04 AM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

I think MONSIGNOR is by the LSO.

 
 Posted:   Feb 28, 2019 - 6:50 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

It’s also worth pointing out re: your list that The Fury film recording was not done with the LSO, only the album recording was.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Feb 28, 2019 - 6:53 AM   
 By:   TM   (Member)

Didn't the LSO do all 3?

One big difference was Maurice Murphy played on 1 & 2 and Andrew Crowley was principal trumpet on 3 (and did a fantastic job, but of course his style and sound are slightly different)

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 28, 2019 - 7:16 AM   
 By:   Paul MacLean   (Member)

I think MONSIGNOR is by the LSO.

Yeah, Monsignor was the LSO.

Williams recorded The Five Sacred Trees with the LSO as well.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 28, 2019 - 8:23 AM   
 By:   E-Wan   (Member)

I never knew that! Does anyone know all the scores by John Williams and the LSO?

According the official LSO Discography these are John Williams's scores, concert works and compilations recorded by the LSO:


Star Wars (1977)
The Fury (1978) - album only!
Superman: The Movie (1978)
Dracula (1979)
The Empire Strikes Back (1979 & 1980)
Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981)
Violin Concerto / Flute Concerto (1981)
Monsignor (1982)
Return of the Jedi (1983)
The Five Sacred Trees (1996)
The Hollywood Sound (1996)
Gershwin Fantasy (1998)
Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace (1999)
Trumpet Concerto / Essay for Strings (1999)
Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones (2002)
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets (2002)
Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith (2005)
John Williams: A Life in Music (2017)


The LSO Discography is available here:
https://www.lso.co.uk/images/pdf/WebsiteDiscog2019a2.pdf

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 28, 2019 - 12:08 PM   
 By:   jenkwombat   (Member)

Thanks, folks! I appreciate it... smile

 
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