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 Posted:   Oct 21, 2022 - 2:40 AM   
 By:   Viola d’amore   (Member)

On the soundtrack there are some tracks with the word “Toolbox” in the title. Does anyone know what exactly is meant by this?

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 21, 2022 - 5:16 AM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

On the soundtrack there are some tracks with the word “Toolbox” in the title. Does anyone know what exactly is meant by this?

.I don't know but my guess they were to be used wherever they wanted.

 
 Posted:   Oct 21, 2022 - 5:19 AM   
 By:   Josh "Swashbuckler" Gizelt   (Member)

On the soundtrack there are some tracks with the word “Toolbox” in the title. Does anyone know what exactly is meant by this?

It has been speculated earlier in this post that these were cues recorded “wild” to be placed where the filmmakers saw fit. This makes sense for the shorter bits, but doesn't quite fit the D21 track. However, given that the documentation on this score was so sparse, I wouldn't expect solid answers beyond what is in the notes.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 1, 2022 - 6:29 AM   
 By:   Viola d’amore   (Member)

In the booklet of this edition I found a few statements that I do not want to let stand uncontradicted.

____

“I had put Dracula, the historical figure, together with the book – which is what Stoker did.”

However, this is a very simplified and abbreviated account, because Stoker does not explicitly write that Dracula is Vlad the Impaler. There are several annotated editions of the novel that deal with this issue in detail.

____

“When I read Stoker, I went: wait a minute, this is a guy that got a three-way. (…)”

No. Harker describes that only one of the three women approached him to “kiss” him. The other two are not involved in this action.

____

“Here Stoker was talking about a ménage à quatre with three extraordinary women, and he even talks about how one of them looked like Lucy.”

He doesn’t. Harker writes:

“The other was fair, as fair as can be, with great wavy masses of golden hair and eyes like pale sapphires. I seemed somehow to know her face, and to know it in connection with some dreamy fear, but I could not recollect at the moment how or where.”

Although Lucy is indeed blonde in the novel, this passage refers to a chapter Stoker deleted from the novel called Dracula’s Guest. In the manuscript, Harker remembers where he saw the blonde vampire:

“As he spoke I was looking at the fair woman and it suddenly dawned on me that she was the woman – or her image – that I had seen in the tomb on Walpurgis night.”

At no point does Harker write that the blonde vampire looks like Lucy.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 1, 2022 - 8:06 AM   
 By:   Thgil   (Member)

Comic Book Guy lives. Holy Christ.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 1, 2022 - 8:33 AM   
 By:   Viola d’amore   (Member)

Since the Comic Book Guy is capable of discussion and can contribute more in discussions than repetitive phrases like “Holy shit” and “Holy Christ,” I’ll take that as a compliment.
Soundtrack releases are discussed here, and I’ve pointed out and commented on a few content errors in the booklet.

 
 Posted:   Nov 1, 2022 - 8:38 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Comic Book Guy lives. Holy Christ.

^^^ Worst. Post. Ever.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 1, 2022 - 8:43 AM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

Comic Book Guy lives. Holy Christ.

^^^ Worst. Post. Ever.


At least its not one of mine. smile

 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2023 - 9:31 PM   
 By:   BornOfAJackal   (Member)

Watching the latest high definition video release of this, I was thoroughly pleased with the quality of the score recording. From low strings to high brass, this score sounds stellar all the way through.

I trust this release, arriving soon, fully reproduces its dynamics and depth?

 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2023 - 11:48 PM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

I admit I thoroughly enjoy all the questioning and nitpicking and digging for details in this thread. Shows passion and interest in even the minute details of the score and the scoring process. Is it nerdy? So what? I've learned a lot from nerds over the years.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 18, 2023 - 2:36 AM   
 By:   paulhickling   (Member)

I fail to see what's wrong with pointing out inaccuracies in an official publication. Especially on a site designed for specialist interest of a specialised area of entertainment.

I often find it irksome when film/TV makers over sexualise the original intent of source material to base their product on. It's as if they don't have the courage of they're own convictions enough to say it's what THEY ARE ADDING because it ain't sexy enough in their own opinions.

Pertinent points raised. Nerdy? Fancy that on a nerdy forum! Lol.

 
 Posted:   Mar 18, 2023 - 2:17 PM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)

Stoker's Dracula is specifically a textual metaphor about many sexual themes relevant to artists of his era (also sub-textually). I suppose I understand the puritanical late 80s and early 90s response to the James V. Hart script and Coppola's adaptation; but we are 30+ years removed from this film and I think it is inherent in its own text that it purposely set out to adapt Dracula with a stronger emphasis on the sexual metaphor angle by taking it to a maximalist approach. The film became the cultural classic it is because of its sense of adaptation. Maybe the camp theatricality is not to a viewer's liking but I think it's "sexing up the source material" approach to a very sexual story is commendable. It had to make the story approachable to the audience it was intended for. Stoker's novel was famous for the same reason.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 18, 2023 - 2:26 PM   
 By:   Grack21   (Member)

I like the music.

 
 Posted:   Mar 18, 2023 - 6:47 PM   
 By:   BornOfAJackal   (Member)

I'm glad this one is still around five years after release.

That new Dolby Vision disc put a musical stake through my heart. Can't wait.

 
 Posted:   Mar 18, 2023 - 8:45 PM   
 By:   Hedji   (Member)

It can be an overwhelming set with redundancies, so here is my playlist I made.

My loose rules of this playlist
1. Include all major themes and sequences
2. Eliminate redundancies that are too similar
3. Follow a loose chronology, but favor listening experience
4. Use the "Dracula Toolbox" cues. I just love the idea (and name) of "Dracula Toolbox" as a way to add salt/pepper to taste
5. (This rule is very personal preferential) Include most of the variations of the Vampire Hunters Theme, which is my favorite
6. End the album with a series of End Credits pieces, as well as the Storm without Choir, which seemed like a good place to put it.

It comes in at about 90 minutes.

1. Dracula – the Beginning (Original Extended Version) [D1 T1]
2. The Castle [D1 T3]
3. Dracula Toolbox D18C [D2 T25]
4. The Journey (Original Extended Version) [D1 T2]
5. The Letter II (alternate) [D2 T16]
6. Mina/Johnathan ( suite) [D3 T20]
7. The Letter II [D1 T11]
8. Mina’s Photo (Original Album) [D3 T3]
9. Dracula Toolbox D18A [D2 T23]
10. The Brides (Original Album) [D3 T5]
11. Dracula Toolbox D18B [D2 T24]
12. Love Remembered (Original Album) [D3 T7]
13. Lucy’s Party (Original Album) [D3 T4]
14. Mina Possessed [D2 T3]
15. The Storm (Original Version) [D1 T10]
16. Dracula Toolbox: Lucy’s Lullaby (harp) [D2 T26]
17. Rules Café (extended album version) [D3 T18]
18. Vampire Hunters (Original Version) [D1 T24]
19. Dracula Toolbox D21 (Unused Album Suite) [D3 T21]
20. The Hunt Builds (Original Version) [D1 T20]
21. Lucy Squirms (alternate) [D2 T15]
22. The Hunters Prelude (Original Album) [D3 T9]
23. Lucy’s Lullaby (vocal) [D1 T22]
24. Lucy’s Neck (Original Version) [D1 T13]
25. The Stake [D1 T23]
26. The Green Mist (Original Album) [D3 T10]
27. Mina/Dracula (Extended Suite) [D3 T17]
28. So Cold (Original Version) [D2 T2]
29. The Fire (alternate introduction) [D2 T19]
30. Ring of Fire (Original Version) [D2 T4]
31. Whispered Drac (Choir) [D2 T28]
32. Race Against the Sunset [D2 T5]
33. Love Eternal (Original Album) [D3 T13]
34. The End (Original Version) [D2 T7]
35. Vampire Hunters (Original Album) [D3 T2]
36. The Storm (Extended no choir) [D2 T13]
37. End Credits (Original Version) [D2 T7]

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 19, 2023 - 3:06 AM   
 By:   paulhickling   (Member)

Stoker's Dracula is specifically a textual metaphor about many sexual themes relevant to artists of his era (also sub-textually). I suppose I understand the puritanical late 80s and early 90s response to the James V. Hart script and Coppola's adaptation; but we are 30+ years removed from this film and I think it is inherent in its own text that it purposely set out to adapt Dracula with a stronger emphasis on the sexual metaphor angle by taking it to a maximalist approach. The film became the cultural classic it is because of its sense of adaptation. Maybe the camp theatricality is not to a viewer's liking but I think it's "sexing up the source material" approach to a very sexual story is commendable. It had to make the story approachable to the audience it was intended for. Stoker's novel was famous for the same reason.

Nicely put. My only point was that the poster was merely pointing out perfectly relevant things before he was' 'umped on'. For my own part, I liked the film . It's not as if there aren't plenty of other adaptations around, all of which have the biases of their own maker's tastes. The only thing I disliked was Dracula 's first ott appearance. Bright red outfit and silly hair do. Hardly the black from neck to toe described in the book.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 19, 2023 - 3:07 AM   
 By:   paulhickling   (Member)

I like the music.

Me too.

 
 Posted:   Mar 19, 2023 - 7:57 AM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)

The only thing I disliked was Dracula 's first ott appearance. Bright red outfit and silly hair do. Hardly the black from neck to toe described in the book.

But it is an iconic look for the Old man Dracula, we must admit! Speaking of the novel's description of Dracula (from Jonathan Harker's perspective), I think Jess Franco's Count Dracula (with the beloved Christopher Lee as Drac) is the only one which includes his noted long white mustache. Funny enough, a few months ago I used AI "art" generator to imagine Brad Dourif as Dracula as described in the novel based upon my love of the material and mind's eye "want" to have always seen Dourif in this role (cheekily, the AI interpreted "blood dripping" to show Drac with a bit of a bloody mustache, which I love):

https://cdn.midjourney.com/84e07966-4d55-4066-93e7-ceda26282d32/grid_0.png

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 20, 2023 - 8:57 AM   
 By:   Symphorch   (Member)

I trust this release, arriving soon, fully reproduces its dynamics and depth?

Absolutely! This has been one of my very favorite CD's from LLL, and is consistently on my rotation. Add to that the stellar printing of Kilar's score by OmniMusic, and I am able to fully immerse myself in the recordings. The large brass/percussion climaxes like the opening cue and The Hunt Builds are incredible in their depth. I hope you enjoy this release!

 
 Posted:   Jun 13, 2023 - 8:22 AM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

GOING OUT OF PRINT ON 6/30/23 (or when the stock sells out...whichever happens first)

LESS THAN 200 UNITS REMAIN

https://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=151424&forumID=1&archive=0

 
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