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 Posted:   Mar 3, 2018 - 6:34 AM   
 By:   Montana Dave   (Member)

I viewed 'Darkest Hour' last evening for the first time. Overall, I did NOT particularly enjoy it. I've seen so many better films about Churchill, one just a few months ago. I'm not going to go into Gary Oldman's performance which everyone seems to love. What made me sit up and notice was that while viewing the film, there's this sequence where Winston Churchill gets out of his motor-car, and enters The Tube to ride the subway for his first time. Inside the train, he asks his fellow riders their thoughts about surrender or the continued fighting of Hitler. The scene seemed SO false, and yet so cleverly calculated to assure Gary Oldman his Oscar.
It's the best and most endearing scene in the film, but it was ridiculous at the same time.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2018 - 10:25 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

While that subway scene may not have happened, Churchill frequently made trips to hang out with "regular people". So I guess it's just a fictional imagineing of one of these trips he made.

 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2018 - 10:55 AM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

While that subway scene may not have happened, Churchill frequently made trips to hang out with "regular people". So I guess it's just a fictional imagineing of one of these trips he made.

Poetic license.
Ever hear of it you literal twits?!
Thank you Thor.

Sheeesh

 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2018 - 10:59 AM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Right on.
And Hitchcock neveR met Ed Gain as falsely portrayed in HITCHCOCK.

And Ed Wood Never never met Orson Welles in a bar as falsely depicted in ED WOOD.

Want some more hhistorical "mistakes" from movies?

 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2018 - 11:12 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Churchill and the Doctor were allies. Anything is possible.

 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2018 - 11:21 AM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Churchill and the Doctor were allies. Anything is possible.

The Solium Hypothesis

 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2018 - 11:24 AM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

"...calculated to assure..Oscar" ?
Talk about precognition!

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2018 - 11:57 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

I viewed 'Darkest Hour' last evening for the first time. Overall, I did NOT particularly enjoy it. I've seen so many better films about Churchill, one just a few months ago. I'm not going to go into Gary Oldman's performance which everyone seems to love. What made me sit up and notice was that while viewing the film, there's this sequence where Winston Churchill gets out of his motor-car, and enters The Tube to ride the subway for his first time. Inside the train, he asks his fellow riders their thoughts about surrender or the continued fighting of Hitler. The scene seemed SO false, and yet so cleverly calculated to assure Gary Oldman his Oscar.
It's the best and most endearing scene in the film, but it was ridiculous at the same time.


Sorry you weren’t keen on it, Dave. Mrs TG saw it with a friend a few weeks ago and loved it. It’s the closest thing to a war film that she’s ever enjoyed, but of course it’s not your traditional guys in a foxhole or tally-ho red leader type of thing. But she’s always said if she weren’t married to me the only person she’d consider is Gary “Li’l” Oldman. I think she meant in Dracula rather than Churchillian fat’n’bald mode. I hope.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2018 - 12:06 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

But she’s always said if she weren’t married to me the only person she’d consider is Gary “Li’l” Oldman. I think she meant in Dracula rather than Churchillian fat’n’bald mode. I hope.

If not, you have the work cut out for you.

 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2018 - 12:28 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

The Gathering Storm with Al Finney is the one to watch!

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2018 - 1:08 PM   
 By:   Montana Dave   (Member)

I viewed 'Darkest Hour' last evening for the first time. Overall, I did NOT particularly enjoy it. I've seen so many better films about Churchill, one just a few months ago. I'm not going to go into Gary Oldman's performance which everyone seems to love. What made me sit up and notice was that while viewing the film, there's this sequence where Winston Churchill gets out of his motor-car, and enters The Tube to ride the subway for his first time. Inside the train, he asks his fellow riders their thoughts about surrender or the continued fighting of Hitler. The scene seemed SO false, and yet so cleverly calculated to assure Gary Oldman his Oscar.
It's the best and most endearing scene in the film, but it was ridiculous at the same time.


Sorry you weren’t keen on it, Dave. Mrs TG saw it with a friend a few weeks ago and loved it. It’s the closest thing to a war film that she’s ever enjoyed, but of course it’s not your traditional guys in a foxhole or tally-ho red leader type of thing. But she’s always said if she weren’t married to me the only person she’d consider is Gary “Li’l” Oldman. I think she meant in Dracula rather than Churchillian fat’n’bald mode. I hope.


Oy, Chris. Maybe she IS tired of you, and was thinking Sid Vicious.

 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2018 - 1:13 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

or......
Lee Harvey Oswald?
"I'm just the patsey!"

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2018 - 3:46 PM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

or......
Lee Harvey Oswald?
"I'm just the patsey!"



We’ve just watched The Death of Stalin. I think she’s replaced Gary Oldman with Jason Isaacs.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2018 - 5:39 PM   
 By:   The Wanderer   (Member)

or......
Lee Harvey Oswald?
"I'm just the patsey!"



We’ve just watched The Death of Stalin. I think she’s replaced Gary Oldman with Jason Isaacs.


Isaacs is brilliant in Death of Stalin, by 'eck.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2018 - 7:07 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Montana Dave, your topic was discussed earlier and in a rather lively manner (a la the FSM way wink) over at yon hemisphere--

https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=124433&forumID=1&archive=0

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2018 - 7:27 PM   
 By:   ANZALDIMAN   (Member)

The Gathering Storm with Al Finney is the one to watch!

Indeed!

Many moons ago here I posted a topic about The Gathering Storm.

Finney won an Emmy for it. Well deserved. And as usual he was superb.

 
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