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 Posted:   Dec 29, 2017 - 5:13 PM   
 By:   David Maxx   (Member)

I'm not as good as some when it comes to the commentary portion of these breakdowns, so I encourage anyone interested (DeputyRiley, maybe) to offer any additional input on this title. Anyway, here goes...

While this one is no "Planet of the Apes" or "Poltergeist", I have always had a weak spot for its eerie, sinister tone. I also love Goldsmith's use of echoing/fluttering/techno electronics, which create what I call a "chill in the air". My favorite cues have always been the unsettling "Night Talk", the exciting "Megan Overboard" and, of course, the famous "Ransom" highlight.

The current Varese album is very well timed and includes the most interesting stuff, but does miss some of the slower, more contemplative(?) material. Highlights include the lengthy "Clues", which does an amazing job of keeping the audience in suspense during Cross' search for the "missing picture"; the sneaky "Tell No One" and "Stakeout" cues and the cold, spine-tingling "Back to Work" (I love the opening low-pitched strings, as well as the electronics accompanying Cross' discovery of Megan's shoe and Soneji's boat pulling out).

Whatever you think about the score, it sure beats the hell out of the movie, which appears to be an unfortunate victim of the "Too Many Cooks" syndrome. Perhaps someone here knows more, as I haven't been able to find much info on its production.

Anyway, while I am not exactly holding my breath for a Deluxe Edition (as it doesn't appear to be a current priority for Varese), I would place my order quicker than you could say, "bottlecap".

Total Score Time (59:02)
Varese Album Time (34:58)

The Varese album tracks appear to be the same as their film versions, except where noted.

Night Talk / Testing (5:18)
Alone (1:09)
Megan's Abduction (3:23)
The Cabin (0:54)*
Back to Work (1:50)*
The Message (0:45)*
Not Yet (0:39)*
What's Going On? (1:03)*
Clues (6:42)*
No Lights (0:40)*
Megan Overboard (4:53)
Tell No One (1:50)*
Stakeout (1:14)*
Cop Killer (3:54)+ (Louder synth)
Empty Room (1:08)*
The Ransom (7:30)
Home Visit (0:49)*
Analysis (1:36)*
We're Done (0:53)*
I Know You (0:55)*
New Evidence (1:06)*
Don't Move (0:42)*
Profiling (3:49)+ (Additional synth overlay)
Open the Door (1:18)* (The first 10 seconds overlaps the last 10 seconds of "Profiling")
Not My Partner (5:02)

*Unreleased
+Alternate

SIDE NOTE: The first 0:25 of "Open the Door" sounds exactly like a cue played when everyone gathers around the speakerphone just before the ransom demands are made. I always assumed it was the same cue and therefore the result of a tracking job. Perhaps someone here knows better.

 
 Posted:   Dec 29, 2017 - 7:50 PM   
 By:   DeputyRiley   (Member)

Hey great job David! I think that you (and Yavar) are the rightful heir to the CSB throne and all of its thankless glory. Great notations with the alternates and unreleased material, very thorough and informative. I really enjoyed reading it. That was really great coverage of Along Came a Spider, one of my most sought-after Goldsmith expansions. I never did a CSB on it because I didn't cover scores that already had some existing info regarding their complete breakdown out in the internet ether (or were available in unmentionable form), but I'd love to see this one released. I'm also a huge fan of the dark, eerie, sinister Goldsmith style that utilizes electronics and cold textures to yield thrills and chills and spills. I'm also pining for expanded Hollow Man as well in the same vein. I enjoy those slithery, spidery synths you mentioned that also appeared in Sum of All Fears -- such a striking, bold electronic color in the overall soundscape of the score.

This is one of the rare occasions where I think that the original release almost got it all right and captured all of the best moments the first time around. There are a few exceptions, like that awesome short cue when Cross finds Megan's shoe or the lengthy "Clues" -- I had no idea it ran so long. I love that wide, resonant synth effect that is used in "Clues" (and I think another place in the film) that was also featured in Deep Rising ("Wet Repairs") -- again, such a bold, arresting sound. A lot of composers use electronics, of course, but no one used electronics as striking and colorful and fascinating and so-far-outside-the-norm as Goldsmith did.

From the original release, as you mentioned of course, that "Ransom" track is phenomenal and almost iconic in the Goldsmith thriller canon, and "Cop Killer" has some of my favorite Goldsmith synths everrrrrrrrr. That and "Megan Overboard" still made me delight in his use of electronics just as I did when I first discovered the maestro on that fateful day back in 1990 with Total Recall.

Anyway, excellent work -- great Goldsmith cue title approximations as well! Spot on. Varese, can you hear us... (but first U.S. Marshals pleeez)

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 29, 2017 - 8:01 PM   
 By:   Jim Cleveland   (Member)

" A lot of composers use electronics, of course, but no one used electronics as striking and colorful and fascinating and so-far-outside-the-norm as Goldsmith did. "

Very well put! I've ALWAYS loved Goldsmith's use of electronics in his scores! I love that "web" synth sound to emulate something caught in a spider's web and trying to free itself!
ACAS is one of my favorite Goldsmith scores(In the top-20).... would LOVE for this to get the complete treatment!

 
 Posted:   Dec 29, 2017 - 8:18 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Awesome. I would love to have the complete score for this. “The Ransom” is one of his best later period cues.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 29, 2017 - 9:15 PM   
 By:   jb1234   (Member)

Great work! Has anyone done a complete score breakdown of Small Soldiers yet? Can't find it in the search...

 
 Posted:   Dec 29, 2017 - 9:21 PM   
 By:   David Maxx   (Member)

It might not be a bad idea to resequence and combine certain short cues into single tracks, since some of them seem a little too simple or "incomplete" by themselves.

The Message/The Cabin/What's Going On?/Not Yet/Back to Work
Tell No One/Stakeout
Home Visit/Analysis/We're Done
Don't Move/I Know You/New Evidence

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 29, 2017 - 10:17 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

Nice job, David.

My favorite cue is The Ransom starting at about 1:01

 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2018 - 11:44 PM   
 By:   David Maxx   (Member)

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 Posted:   Apr 1, 2018 - 9:53 PM   
 By:   David Maxx   (Member)

Deleted (No, I'm not trying to bump the thread. I hit "Reply" instead of "Edit".)

 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2018 - 4:12 PM   
 By:   MutualRevolver   (Member)

Found original slates, courtesy of FunnyML from JWFan: http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/20819-the-complete-cue-lists-thread/&do=findComment&comment=1537190

1M1 Night Talk
1M1A Testing
1M2 Megan's Abduction
1M3 The Message
1M4 A Closed Book

2M1 Re-Play
2M2 Watching
2M3 Hello Megan
2M4 The Missing Picture

3M1 The Photos
3M2 Please Help
3M3 Megan Overboard
3M4 Cyber Meeting
3M5 No Guard
3M6 Cop Killer
3M7 Missing Girl

4M1 The Ransom
4M1A The Ransom - Part 2
4M2 Hi Alex
4M3 Where's Megan?
4M4 The Rat

5M1 Not Alone
5M2 Profiling
5M3 Open The Door
5M4 Not My Partner

 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2018 - 4:55 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Dammit I want this!!!

 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2018 - 7:39 PM   
 By:   David Maxx   (Member)

Dammit I want this!!!

Just keep saying it, Mutant wink

 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2018 - 7:40 PM   
 By:   David Maxx   (Member)

Found original slates, courtesy of FunnyML from JWFan: http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/20819-the-complete-cue-lists-thread/&do=findComment&comment=1537190

1M1 Night Talk
1M1A Testing
1M2 Megan's Abduction
1M3 The Message
1M4 A Closed Book

2M1 Re-Play
2M2 Watching
2M3 Hello Megan
2M4 The Missing Picture

3M1 The Photos
3M2 Please Help
3M3 Megan Overboard
3M4 Cyber Meeting
3M5 No Guard
3M6 Cop Killer
3M7 Missing Girl

4M1 The Ransom
4M1A The Ransom - Part 2
4M2 Hi Alex
4M3 Where's Megan?
4M4 The Rat

5M1 Not Alone
5M2 Profiling
5M3 Open The Door
5M4 Not My Partner


Thank you for those! Wow, I was wrong on almost every one of them!

 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2018 - 8:55 PM   
 By:   MutualRevolver   (Member)

You're welcome!

 
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