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 Posted:   Mar 21, 2017 - 6:33 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

...don't they?

After all, don't the vast majority of you prefer hummable melodies, rip-roaring action cues, and "beautiful" love themes whereas things like atonalities, jazz, blues, white noise, uncommon time signatures, "sneaking around" music, vocal chants, and electronics are largely NOT welcome.

Instead, most film score fans prefer the comfort of the London Symphony Orchestra, tons o' syrupy strings, some woodwinds, and "kick-ass" action brass.

Is this not true for the vast majority of you?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2017 - 6:37 AM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

Where's that photo of "Criswell Predicts..."?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2017 - 6:38 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

...don't they?

Yes, and the photos of their CD collections tend to creep me out. Everything is so neat and orderly. It doesn't look like they drink or have sex in the same room as the stereo.

 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2017 - 6:44 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

...don't they?

Yes, and the photos of the CD collections tend to creep me out. Everything is so neat and orderly. It doesn't look like they drink or have sex in the same room with the stereo.


Yes, it's a little something I call "Teutonic Exactness", both in organization and in preference.

Mind you, I own and adore *many* musically-conservative scores--and music in general--but I am also of the annointed who are open to unknown-to-me-sounds one doesn't necessarily hear in today's mainstream cinema.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2017 - 6:45 AM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

Stop being so deliberately abnormal, you two. You're giving me an inferiority complex.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2017 - 6:45 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

...whereas things like atonalities, jazz, blues, white noise, uncommon time signatures, "sneaking around" music, vocal chants, and electronics are largely NOT welcome.

This is what I live for. Although I do like minor key, introspective love themes, e.g., Morricone circa 1971, when they are sandwiched between the fake-rock freakout number with wild trumpet, and the dissonant orchestral stuff.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2017 - 7:01 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

...don't they?

After all, don't the vast majority of you prefer hummable melodies, rip-roaring action cues, and "beautiful" love themes whereas things like atonalities, jazz, blues, white noise, uncommon time signatures, "sneaking around" music, vocal chants, and electronics are largely NOT welcome.

Instead, most film score fans prefer the comfort of the London Symphony Orchestra, tons o' syrupy strings, some woodwinds, and "kick-ass" action brass.

Is this not true for the vast majority of you?


You are absolutely right, Jim, although it depends a little bit on which film score community or forum you visit. This is the biggest film music forum on the net, and has a little bit of everything in terms of preference...but if you were to do a poll, you'd no doubt find it leans quite heavily towards the reactionary or traditional.

That's OK up to a certain point -- I mean, who of us doesn't love the style you're describing here? No, my beef has always been that so many prefer to approach this artform through that narrow prism ALONE; i.e. a refusal to explore other venues, or more contemporary works, opting -- instead -- to dimiss it with sweeping generalizations.

This is a shame, IMO. There is SO much great stuff out there, both old and new. It all comes down to attitude and a willingess to explore. For some reason, however, this 'urge' seems to be missing from a great many fans.

 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2017 - 7:11 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

I don't want this to be construed in any way as a "put down" of those tried-and-true scores by composers we admire, because it absolutely is not. What sparked my desire to start this thread was a post made by someone in the "Not a Bad Decade So Far" (or somesuch) thread. There, some fellow posted numerous YouTube audio to some interesting-sounding Japanese anime stuff, which normally I wouldn't "watch with a ten-foot pole" wink However, some of it was quite challenging and while it at first didn't get my interest, I wouldn't mind seeing the visuals while hearing the music (my usual preference with film/tv music).

Another thing that prompted this thread is how few replies jazz, blues, electronic, exotica, country, etc., music topics get around here. I'm pretty certain I can guess who will reply to said topics before they quickly sink to the bottom of the forum--even when said genres are part of a film or tv score. It's a shame and more than a bit frustrating, but I know there is at least some interest here.

I also understand that much of our film music love stems from what we loved and were exposed to in early childhood/adolescence and it apparently extends into middle-aged puberty wink We tend to seek out more of the same, because it's comfortable and familiar--I know I do. Nothing wrong with it, but it is nice to change things up every so often. smile

 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2017 - 7:28 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

It doesn't look like they drink or have sex in the same room with the stereo.

So what you're suggesting is that the following never happens:

"I'm so glad I fell by your pad, SpaceRanger1977! Now pour me another Romulan Ale and spin "Parade of the Ewoks" again!"

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2017 - 7:33 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

So what you're suggesting is that the following never happens:

Yes, and judging from the photos that have been posted, the following never happens either:

 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2017 - 8:10 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

...don't they?

After all, don't the vast majority of you prefer hummable melodies, rip-roaring action cues, and "beautiful" love themes whereas things like atonalities, jazz, blues, white noise, uncommon time signatures, "sneaking around" music, vocal chants, and electronics are largely NOT welcome.

Instead, most film score fans prefer the comfort of the London Symphony Orchestra, tons o' syrupy strings, some woodwinds, and "kick-ass" action brass.

Is this not true for the vast majority of you?


I don't know if it is true for the vast majority, but it is not really true of me personally. While I like rip-roaring action cues and beautiful love themes probably as much as the next guy, I also like atonalities, jazz, blues, white noise, "sneaking around" music, vocal chants, and electronics... just all depends. I don't see why I should have to chose between Barry and Boulez and not just simply listen to either, depending on my mood.

 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2017 - 8:42 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Well, is classical music "conservative"? I would say scores are an off shoot of classical music. And it's stood the test of time for hundreds of years. It's accessible and relatable. The rest are fads. Thus thematic material is my favorite kind of music. But I do occasionally enjoy other styles of film scoring.

 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2017 - 8:46 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

So what you're suggesting is that the following never happens:

Yes, and judging from the photos that have been posted, the following never happens either:



big grin

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2017 - 9:11 AM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

So if one likes melody, love themes and rip-roaring action cues, one has conservative tastes.
Hence if one likes jazz, blues and atonalities, it would follow that one has Liberal musical tastes.

Ehh, I don't know about that. I think Thor's word "traditional" seems more spot on.

For me it is about what I want to listen to in a stand-alone CD. I many really like or admire "liberal" music in a movie, but I tend to buy and listen to more traditional music when driving several hours in my car.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2017 - 9:24 AM   
 By:   Henning Andersen   (Member)

...don't they?

After all, don't the vast majority of you prefer hummable melodies, rip-roaring action cues, and "beautiful" love themes whereas things like atonalities, jazz, blues, white noise, uncommon time signatures, "sneaking around" music, vocal chants, and electronics are largely NOT welcome.

Instead, most film score fans prefer the comfort of the London Symphony Orchestra, tons o' syrupy strings, some woodwinds, and "kick-ass" action brass.

Is this not true for the vast majority of you?



I can't believe how you managed to sum of the sound of Jerry Fielding with words :-)

But seriously, I belive a lot of us started out listening to the "classic composers" such as Korngold, Rozsa and Williams and the first love is often the last love.

Now a days the younger people here propably started with Hans Zimmer and the modern soundscape, but I am sure they are just as interested as we were to explore new sounds. But it will not be sounds we explored.
It's a new time and now atonalities, jazz, blues, white noise, uncommon time signatures could perhaps be substituted with sounds from hip-hop or rap...

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2017 - 9:31 AM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)

...don't they?

After all, don't the vast majority of you prefer hummable melodies, rip-roaring action cues, and "beautiful" love themes whereas things like atonalities, jazz, blues, white noise, uncommon time signatures, "sneaking around" music, vocal chants, and electronics are largely NOT welcome.

Instead, most film score fans prefer the comfort of the London Symphony Orchestra, tons o' syrupy strings, some woodwinds, and "kick-ass" action brass.

Is this not true for the vast majority of you?


Since my two "kings" are Jerry Goldsmith and Ennio Morricone, who live all over the musical map, I probably don't qualify.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2017 - 9:52 AM   
 By:   daretodream   (Member)

Is that Steve McQueen on the photo?

 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2017 - 9:57 AM   
 By:   Carburetor Float   (Member)

'It doesn't look like they drink or have sex in the same room with the stereo.'


Well, in relation to having sex, I have to confess (I hope this does not spread):
I just have sex listening Jazz Soundtracks (I recommend some scores from Kenyon Hopkins like ‘Baby Doll’, ‘The Hustler’, ‘The Yellow Canary’; Lalo Schifrin: ‘Gone With The Wave’, ‘Pretty Maids All In A Row’, ‘Man On A Swing’; Neal Hefti: ‘Sex And The Single Girl’, ‘Synanon’; Nelson Riddle: ‘The Rogues’; Duke Ellington: ‘Anatomy Of A Murder’, ‘Assault On A Queen’ – by the way, I had great orgasms listening to these 2 Ellington’s scores).

On the other hand, I do not advise having sex by listening to some epic soundtracks like ‘The 10 Commandments’, or some composers like Miklós Rózsa (scores totally asexual).
And watch out for some composers: I once tried to have sex listening to ‘Psycho’ & 'Marnie' (B. Herrmann), but I found the situation very castrating and dangerous.

 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2017 - 9:59 AM   
 By:   Carburetor Float   (Member)

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 Posted:   Mar 21, 2017 - 10:00 AM   
 By:   townerbarry   (Member)

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