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 Posted:   Feb 8, 2017 - 6:58 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

I have long loved the score for this film by The Great Michel Legrand, but I had never seen the film.

For a long time, only inferior prints of this were available (to my knowledge), but we just watched this via Amazon. What a great film; I am surprised it is kind of forgotten. It holds up really well and seems like it could have been made yesterday.

Is there a story behind the restoration, or the discovery of the master elements?

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 9, 2017 - 3:17 AM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

The only thing that has ever been released on physical media in the U.S. is a cassette tape.

THE GO-BETWEEN was one of several films announced in June 1970 as part of a co-production arrangement between MGM and EMI. However, shortly before the film received the Grand International Prize at the 1971 Cannes Film Festival, where it was the official British entry, MGM sold the North American distribution rights to Columbia. MGM had little faith in the highly lyrical film's box-office appeal. According to a December 1974 Films and Filming article, an executive of MGM [identified in other sources as MGM president and CEO James T. Aubrey, Jr.] dismissed THE GO-BETWEEN as "the greatest still picture ever made."

United States copyright records list Columbia Pictures Industries, Inc. as the copyright claimant for THE GO-BETWEEN, although onscreen credits list E.M.I. Film Productions, Ltd. as the claimant. Perhaps that inconsistency has been partially responsible for the limited availability of the film.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 9, 2017 - 4:44 AM   
 By:   John B. Archibald   (Member)

Interesting, that the poster touts the screeenplay by then trendy playwright Harold Pinter, but makes no mention of the novel it's based on, by L.P. Hartley, as I recall.

I seem to remember it was a success at the he time. Beautifully done. Legrand's score was my favorite of his; though used sparsely in the film, it's memorable and effective. I found the theme on an lp, and later on a CD compilation.

Was there ever an official soundtrack relesase?

Aubrey is infamous for gutting MGM. He's the one we have to thank for dumping the music dept. archives into a landfill.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 9, 2017 - 6:41 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Was there ever an official soundtrack release?

Most of the score - if not all of it - comprises side 2 of a Columbia LP. (Side 1 has an orchestral suite of "Umbrellas.) This also appears on the Legrand Anthology box set. There is also a shorter suite on "The Essential Michel Legrand" with a harp and harpsichord substituting for the two pianos.

 
 Posted:   Feb 9, 2017 - 7:02 AM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

Does anyone know what that style of font type is called in the above poster? It was in vogue for a while back then.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 9, 2017 - 7:27 AM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)


For a long time, only inferior prints of this were available (to my knowledge), but we just watched this via Amazon. What a great film; I am surprised it is kind of forgotten. It holds up really well and seems like it could have been made yesterday.

Is there a story behind the restoration, or the discovery of the master elements?


Hi, Onya.

During the 1990s, I had gotten The Go-Between on VHS and the print quality was good 20 years ago.
Columbia was putting out items such as this (like The Pumpkin Eater, The Key, Repulsion, etc.) onto tapes by the late-'90s and their print qualities seemed good to me.
I'm unaware of any behind-the-scenes restoration processes. I think this information wouldn't likely be on a public message board, though, and may be limited by studios/property owners to a bonus feature on home video - if at all.
The technicians who work in labs to specifically restore cinema elements are the persons who could reveal the inside scoop 'stories'...

As for discovering films by Joseph Losey (and other international 'art' directors), I am around 25 years ahead of OnyaBirri. I began my art-cinema journey in 1989 by renting Ingmar Bergman films and by '90/'91 had gotten familiar with just about every director of 'art' films whose works were available on home video by that time frame.

If you pursue Losey any further, then you should watch The Sleeping Tiger (1954), Time without Pity (1957), Blind Date (1959), These are the Damned (1961), Eva (1962), The Servant (1963), Accident (1967), Boom (1968), Secret Ceremony (1969), Figures in a Landscape (1970), The Assassination of Trotsky (1972) ... and ... maybe even his 1973 version of A Doll's House (music by Legrand)

 
 Posted:   Feb 9, 2017 - 8:37 AM   
 By:   Heath   (Member)

Does anyone know what that style of font type is called in the above poster? It was in vogue for a while back then.

Type "mary tyler moore font" into google... and then see what happens. wink

 
 Posted:   Feb 9, 2017 - 9:21 AM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

Does anyone know what that style of font type is called in the above poster? It was in vogue for a while back then.

Type "mary tyler moore font" into google... and then see what happens. wink


Ah! It's called Peignot. Veeeeery interesting. Dates back to 1937!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peignot_(typeface)

My interest is also because a variation of it was used as the font for the main titles of PLANET OF THE APES, and it's ad campaign logo and original ads and posters.

https://www.google.com/search?q=planet+of+the+apes+1968+logo+font&biw=1280&bih=909&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiArazstIPSAhWnqVQKHe9yDfsQ7AkINQ&dpr=1#imgrc=B2MaQjv4zabqfM:

 
 Posted:   Feb 9, 2017 - 9:43 AM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

Was there ever an official soundtrack release?

Most of the score - if not all of it - comprises side 2 of a Columbia LP. (Side 1 has an orchestral suite of "Umbrellas.) This also appears on the Legrand Anthology box set. There is also a shorter suite on "The Essential Michel Legrand" with a harp and harpsichord substituting for the two pianos.


I've got both of these on CD (the Columbia and the Essential) and also the 19 minute suite (longer than the one Onya mentions) again with harp and harpsichord on the Musicales Comedies double album. Especially like this longer one and the Columbia - works well to have two different versions, gives a different sense of some of the score.

Now I just need to see the movie on Amazon, added to my wish list - thanks for pointing that out, Onya.

Here's the Spotify link for the Musicales Comedies album version:

https://play.spotify.com/track/4OoQbKACR0nrBy4UJF3V7s.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 9, 2017 - 11:54 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

As for discovering films by Joseph Losey (and other international 'art' directors), I am around 25 years ahead of OnyaBirri.

Am I misreading your post, or did you misread mine?

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 9, 2017 - 1:49 PM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

Am I misreading your post, or did you misread mine?

I'm not sure what you mean, Onya.

Your initial post states you've never seen The Go-Between until 2017.
I've seen most Losey films between '87 & '97, so my 'first' viewing occurred at least
20 years prior to Onya's first watching this film a day or 2 ago.

How are we misreading each other?

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 9, 2017 - 7:23 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)


I'm not sure what you mean, Onya.

Your initial post states you've never seen The Go-Between until 2017.
I've seen most Losey films between '87 & '97, so my 'first' viewing occurred at least
20 years prior to Onya's first watching this film a day or 2 ago.

How are we misreading each other?


Sorry, the syntax of your sentence confused me, and the first time I read it, it sounded like you were suggesting that I'd just discovered art films in general. I realize now that you meant that I just discovered this film in particular - even though I'd tried to watch an unwatchable grainy copy ages ago but stopped.

I was worried that you were lumping me in with all the Marvel and DC fanboys who congregate around here. wink

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 10, 2017 - 7:21 AM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

Sorry, the syntax of your sentence confused me, and the first time I read it, it sounded like you were suggesting that I'd just discovered art films in general. I realize now that you meant that I just discovered this film in particular - even though I'd tried to watch an unwatchable grainy copy ages ago but stopped.

I was worried that you were lumping me in with all the Marvel and DC fanboys who congregate around here. wink


Don't worry, Onya, we know you're not a denizen of ComCon. smile

I realize you haven't just discovered art cinema, but I rather think I'm more zealous in this area than you. I recall you saying that you only saw 2 Antonioni films of those covered by the Quartet CD set. I think by '91, I'd seen all of Antonioni's high profile films between L'Avventura and The Passenger so ... to circle back to Losey ... I offered my suggestions on Losey films you should see (if you haven't yet already).

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 10, 2017 - 5:22 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

I realize you haven't just discovered art cinema, but I rather think I'm more zealous in this area than you.

Maybe you are not necessarily more zealous in your approach, but more organized. Lord knows how many hours I spent at the Brattle for the ten years I lived in Beantown. I also used to frequent MHVF obsessively before it became a graveyard.

I tend to experience books, films, and music haphazardly. I'm more likely to get something that I stumble across. Also, I'm more likely to experience the top titles by a wider variety of artists than everything by any one of them. Also, I think that my taste in "foreign" films may lean more toward the cult and exploitation side of the spectrum than the arthouse side.

For whatever those observations are worth.

 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2025 - 7:10 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)

https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=118834&forumID=7&archive=0

I'm very curious to see this and hear Legrand's score. Nothing in the library.

Here is a suite:



 
 
 Posted:   Jan 8, 2025 - 12:26 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=118834&forumID=7&archive=0

I'm very curious to see this and hear Legrand's score. Nothing in the library.


Why did you link to this exact thread in the post, David?

In any case, fabulous film that I saw relatively recently, i.e. right after Legrand's death, as I was preparing a podcast special on him. The score is also one of my favourites, and I was delighted when it was repurposed in Zavros' MAY DECEMBER last year.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 8, 2025 - 2:20 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Yes, I too rewatched it recently for like the third time over the past year. Sumptuous photography, incisive score and terrific acting all round.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 9, 2025 - 7:09 AM   
 By:   villagardens553   (Member)

Didn't Richard Rodney Bennett record a discarded score?

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 9, 2025 - 2:46 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Yup.

https://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=50003&forumID=1&archive=0

https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=58217&forumID=1&archive=0

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2025 - 8:48 AM   
 By:   Rozsaphile   (Member)

Another Hartley novel of class conflict was filmed two years later: The Hireling, directed by Alan Bridges and starring Robert Shaw and Sarah Miles. It was well received and won some awards but has been largely forgotten since. At the time, I much preferred it to The Go-Between. Need to revisit both.

 
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