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 Posted:   Feb 1, 2021 - 9:38 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Where did Revell say he was retired? Few or no assignments doesn't mean he's retired, he may be taking time off for personal and/or family reasons.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2021 - 9:56 AM   
 By:   gnicks   (Member)

20 years ago. Yes.

Now... not so much.


That's a rather cynical statement. JNH has written some very good scores in the past 20 years.

I think, like many composers, he gives the director what they want. And that means many of his scores won't be all that interesting, based on the current trends in scoring.

But in my experience, when he is asked to score a big, fantasy adventure, he usually delivers.

 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2021 - 9:57 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Regardless who they pick it won't be the best composer(s) for the job. I wonder if they will work off of Horners themes or go in a totally different direction.

 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2021 - 10:08 AM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

Who gets to score the blue homunculus pt II?

Can anyone imagine what Rozsa might have said?

David Arnold scored ID4 just about flawlessly. He could paint the score by numbers. Probably.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2021 - 10:18 AM   
 By:   Mephariel   (Member)

Only two writers in my book that are capable of writing good harmony and melody for the emotional and dramatic scenes are Williams and Silvestri.

Seriously? You think only two composers can do good harmony and melody for emotional and dramatic scenes?

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2021 - 10:20 AM   
 By:   Mephariel   (Member)

Regardless who they pick it won't be the best composer(s) for the job. I wonder if they will work off of Horners themes or go in a totally different direction.

Whatever James Cameron wants.

I think this is why so many composers won't get the job. I wouldn't be surprised if Cameron asked the candidates that they must devote the entire year on this project or something.

 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2021 - 10:25 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Ideally, Don Davis would get the job. I'd absolutely take David Arnold.

But if the rumor of Graeme Revell is correct, if he can do what he did with the ethnic instruments in the rejected "The 13th warrior" score, along with the orchestral action pieces of "The Chronicles of Riddick", I'm right there baby!

 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2021 - 11:12 AM   
 By:   DavidCoscina   (Member)

20 years ago. Yes.

Now... not so much.


That's a rather cynical statement. JNH has written some very good scores in the past 20 years.

I think, like many composers, he gives the director what they want. And that means many of his scores won't be all that interesting, based on the current trends in scoring.

But in my experience, when he is asked to score a big, fantasy adventure, he usually delivers.


My opinion only. The last thing he wrote of any consequence was The Happening.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2021 - 12:07 PM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

Interesting David.
I found The Happening a very lacklustre score (to a truly awful film), but have been enthralled by some of his stuff in Last Airbender, Water For Elephants, his Hunger Games & Fantastic Beasts scores and Maleficent and Nutcracker.
I also found some of Nightcrawler top notch.
While his writing style has veered away from the opulent and dense, snarly Goldsmith sound of his 90s stuff to a more moody, textural sound, more in keeping with today's moods (although it has been a conscious change, since he has admitted he's now embarrassed by his flowery thematic writing of old), his music still packs an emotional punch and sounds like it has been thought through and not merely fed into a computer.

 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2021 - 12:14 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

I remember reading that J.N.H. stated a few years ago he was no longer interested in doing scores like "Wyatt Earp", and indeed he did a bunch of garbage droning synth and mood stuff after that.

Sure he strayed back in to orchestral writing here and there, but it's not quite been what it used to be. I hope for a good old-school score from him from time-to-time, otherwise, he's moved on into boring territory that only excites some members of this forum.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2021 - 1:18 PM   
 By:   Stalker Vigil   (Member)

Where did Revell say he was retired? Few or no assignments doesn't mean he's retired, he may be taking time off for personal and/or family reasons.

Apparently it's true. Here is an article about Revell's current life - https://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/local-news/waiheke-marketplace/103584328/hollywood-music-composer-revels-in-inspiring-youth

An important citation: "The 62-year-old moved from his vineyard home in Napa Valley, California, back to New Zealand in 2014 to look after his mother in her last years.

Revell and his wife, American interior designer Victoria Revell, then bought a home on Waiheke, where they now live with daughter Olivia, 12, and son Evan, 8.

Once he was surrounded by green hills and vineyards overlooking the sea, Revell decided to stop making music for films.

Having been too busy working while the two children from his first marriage were young, he wanted to be more available for fatherhood this time around."

If I haven't missed something, Graeme is really retired or taken a big break based on this phrase "Several creative projects are quietly on the boil, but he isn't quite ready to unveil them yet."

 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2021 - 1:39 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Sad, but he's gotta do what he's gotta do.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2021 - 2:12 PM   
 By:   Mephariel   (Member)

I found it amusing that every time a scoring assignment for a big project comes up, people want the same composers that are never chosen: Christopher Young, David Arnold, Elliot Goldenthal, Joe Kraemer...

Mulan, The Matrix 4, Dune, and now Avatar 2....it is like they are setting themselves up for a disappointment over and over again.

But who knows, Cameron seems like a guy that really hand picks his collaborators. And he is a 90s guys. If anyone will take a chance at an old guard, it is most likely him.

 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2021 - 2:25 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Maybe, but it's still fun to think something good might actually happen this time.

Didn't Cameron say he's a big fan of Zimmer?

 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2021 - 3:37 PM   
 By:   DavidCoscina   (Member)

I remember reading that J.N.H. stated a few years ago he was no longer interested in doing scores like "Wyatt Earp", and indeed he did a bunch of garbage droning synth and mood stuff after that.

Sure he strayed back into orchestral writing here and there, but it's not quite been what it used to be. I hope for a good old-school score from him from time-to-time, otherwise, he's moved on into boring territory that only excites some members of this forum.


Agreed.

I was a huge fan. I don't connect with anything he's released since he collaborated with HZ on TDK pretty much.

EDIT- I think Powell would do a marvelous job.

 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2021 - 3:59 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

Let's see. Pandemic . . . destruction of jobs em masse and in the middle of it, a motion picture score for a large scale prestige feature presentation with the composer's baton wagging in everyone's face.

Yeah, I imagine a lot of the names we're pulling here could do with the exposure. But then again, what do I know? It must go to someone known to be able to put music with picture seamlessly while not worrying about the enormous weight of responsibility that goes with it. And what the heck, during this far from ideal 'idle' period who wouldn't want to roll the can on this for the duration?

And then for the formal score presentation to sell like hot cakes to the likes of us and the rest.

PS. I make a good cuppa tea.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2021 - 4:14 PM   
 By:   Mephariel   (Member)

Maybe, but it's still fun to think something good might actually happen this time.

Didn't Cameron say he's a big fan of Zimmer?


He said that Zimmer is a modern day master like Horner and Williams.

The thing is, Cameron doesn't strike me as a guy who wants to follow Nolan and Villeneuve and all the other art directors who gravitas towards Zimmer.

Also, he asked Horner not to work on other projects while doing Avatar. I just have a hard time imagining Zimmer agreeing to that.

 
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