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 Posted:   Jan 14, 2016 - 7:29 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Is this film as unintentionally hilarious as the trailer?


 
 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2016 - 7:38 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

It's actually not that bad! Here's what I wrote in another EIGER thread a few years ago.

From http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=1107&forumID=1&archive=1

It's a very well-made thriller with a comedy undertone that WORKS - taking us to different locales and exciting setpieces.

I thought it was funny how it started off as an INDIANA JONES precursor....here was the popular college professor that led a secret life as someone more adventurous (an assasin for a government company), with female students falling in love with him. smile And a little bit of James Bond as well, girls being his exact "weakness" or femmes fatales.

Interesting to finally find out what the cryptic title "The Eiger Sanction" means....'sanction 'being the assasination assignment that is given whenever an agent from a competing company is killed. And obviously, this assignment is supposed to take place while climbing the famous Eiger top.

The climbing setpieces were quite impressive, but I wish more time was dedicated to this segment of the film. It just feels a little short and sudden, the way it ends now.

As usual, Williams' music was excellent in context.

The opening main theme is absolutely drop-dead gorgeous, of course, the kind of baroque jazz melancholy that I love and made a thread on earlier:

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=51696&forumID=1&archive=0

In the film, it is presented more classical and longer, and I actually prefer that over the recording on the soundtrack album.

Also, Williams has an excellent approach to the humorous "training montage" sequences (in three parts) - easy-going, baroque melody on pizzicato strings, guitar and harpshicord that grow in orchestral force as Clint becomes fitter and fitter. Overall, Williams deals with the action scenes in a very classy, lean style. Quite unusual.

Recommended film.

 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2016 - 7:39 AM   
 By:   soundtrackmusic   (Member)

Not as hilarious as this trailer, but not a great film either. A weird mix of James Bond and more straightforward thriller/adventure elements. I like it for having the charismatic Jack Cassidy in it in one of his few big screen roles (he was a formidable villain on Columbo no fewer than three times!). Too bad he died in '76.

 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2016 - 8:03 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I've been meaning to check this film out for years. Mainly for the scenic views, mountain climbing, and of course JW's music.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2016 - 8:03 AM   
 By:   dragon53   (Member)

THE EIGER SANCTION is the worst Clint Eastwood movie I've seen---even worse than HEARTBREAK RIDGE. Thayer David, Eastwood's albino boss in EIGER, was the villain in JOURNEY TO THE CENTER OF THE EARTH.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2016 - 8:16 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I think you guys are being too hard on it. It's not a masterpiece, but it's not bad either.

I'll take EIGER any day over some other Eastwood films in later years like J. EDGAR or INVICTUS.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2016 - 8:47 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

the trailer narrator's cliche exaggerations are amusing, but I dont find the trailer itself funny, unless you're in the mood to pull wings off flies. I really like the film and John Williams score (which still needs to be released!)

It HAS been released -- twice! First on LP (on MCA) when the film was released in 1975, and then on CD (on Varese) in 1991.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2016 - 8:54 AM   
 By:   jenkwombat   (Member)

the trailer narrator's cliche exaggerations are amusing, but I dont find the trailer itself funny, unless you're in the mood to pull wings off flies. I really like the film and John Williams score (which still needs to be released!)

It HAS been released -- twice! First on LP (on MCA) when the film was released in 1975, and then on CD (on Varese) in 1991.



Maybe they mean at a price people can afford. (Those Ebay prices for the long-OOP Varese CD can be absurd!)

 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2016 - 9:13 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

Nice theme. Williams music was probably the best bit of it. Be honest its an average eastwood thriller. There are probably about 20 eastwood films you would recommend before this one.

 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2016 - 9:22 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

Sorry that should have read being honest.
My typo.

 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2016 - 9:44 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

I'm with Thor in this... it's not a great movie, but it's not a bad one either. It's an entertaining 70s thriller, so if you like that kind of movie, you should give it a try. If features an very good "transitional" John Williams score, composed at around the same time as JAWS.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2016 - 11:05 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I really like the film and John Williams score (which still needs to be released!)

It HAS been released -- twice! First on LP (on MCA) when the film was released in 1975, and then on CD (on Varese) in 1991.


The LP reissued on CD is a re-recording and cues arent arranged in film order. And you call yourself a fan...roll eyesrazz

Read an interesting analysis of the cues and music here:
http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/20897-score-the-eiger-sanction-complete-score-analysis/

"As was the case with so many soundtrack albums released in the 1970’s, the original soundtrack album, reissued on CD by Varese Sarabande (VSD-5277), was a rerecording sequenced for optimum listening impact. Inevitably, the album omits some great music ..."


I'm well aware that it's a re-recording. A great one it is too. Still, a soundtrack album EXISTS! Your comment seemed to imply it didn't exist at all. I don't mean to single you out, in particular, but in general, I'm getting rather weary of people claiming that this and that score "isn't released" when it clearly is, and what they REALLY mean is that there hasn't been a release particularly tailored to THEIR taste. This has become more and more common in recent years; as if the original release never existed.

I think the existing EIGER SANCTION album is perfect the way it is, but a re-issue wouldn't hurt to make it more available and affordable to new audiences.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2016 - 11:38 AM   
 By:   Mike_J   (Member)

To be honest, I really like the movie.

I think Eastwood is actually great in the role of Hemlock and I love the character's interest in art being his motivation for assassination work - kind of like a bad version of Indy.

I have Williams' score on CD but haven't listened to it in nearly 10 years - might have to dig it out (or sell it on eBay if it really is that rare, which somehow I doubt).

 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2016 - 12:02 PM   
 By:   MusicMad   (Member)

I'm bemused by the resurrection of a film best long forgotten ... at least, IMHO.

Thor kindly introduced a link to an earlier thread and seeing my posting therein (from 23 Apr 09) I have to say that nothing's changed. It is a dreadful film, okay not as bad as, say, Firefox but certainly not worth wasting a couple of hours watching ... IMHO.

As a teenager I used to get my parents to go see films I'd seen and enjoyed (not allowing for the age differences ~ different tastes) ... this was one that never came close.

Mitch

 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2016 - 1:53 PM   
 By:   jackfu   (Member)

It is good for an early directorial effort. It is very reflective of its time in its depiction and treatment of male heroes, villains, etc., and female accomplices and so on. Lots of machismo, double entendre. The dialogue is laughable in some areas by today’s standards.

I think it tried to combine the scenic grandeur of "Where Eagles Dare" with the grittiness of "The French Connection", but didn’t quite make it. The movie plot is just lame in some areas. I think its major failing was that you really don’t care about any of the characters in this film, except for “Hemlock” and he's the antihero so typical of the time.

As to the film score, it is a favorite of mine. The lp, as some have said is a “Music From” recording and varies quite a bit in some tracks from the film. It incorporates the typical harpsichord (?) music for the “artsy” references and the horns for the depiction of mountain grandeur. Nothing wrong with that, but nothing new, either.

The score poses quite the quandary for me in that when the tracks are arranged chronologically, almost all of the best action music is heard very early on. I typically prefer the film track chronology for my collection, but for TES the lp version as released does have a good flow to it. I have both the “original” and the chronologically correct version on my player depending on my preference at any given time. The film score has a likeable “pop” version of the main theme and I wonder if it is one of the earliest ones to do so.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2016 - 2:35 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

There are fans of complete original film tracks, and fans who want the "best" representation of the music content (regardless of how that new orchestration differs from the film version). As one of the former types, I am also weary of people who claim a soundtrack is released when it's actually an abridgement and/or re-recording. I dont find my preference as asking for something "tailored" to my "TASTE," but the default of soundtrack collecting.

I have no problem with you having a different preference than I, so if you had written "...which still needs to be released in its ORIGINAL AND COMPLETE FORMAT", all would be fine and dandy. The thing I have an issue with -- not just with your post and in this particular case, but in general -- is the automatic dismissal of the original soundtrack, in fact the dismissal of its very EXISTENCE. That's rather bizarre to me. I dislike expansions, and don't really respect a soundtrack album untill it has been rearranged for listening, but I still wouldn't ignore the fact that a soundtrack has been issued, whatever its format or presentation.

Anyways, just a new "pet peeve" of mine; within our soundtrack discourse.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2016 - 3:27 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Yeah, it's this 'inferral' which has become all the rage -- a peculiar phenomenon that has gradually grown in the last 15 years or so. Post any given thread on "what score you want to see released?", and you'll get any number of people listing scores that already have a release, without any specification other than the film's title and the composer. They're obviously talking about expanded versions, but we have to INFER that because it has become such a pervasive norm these days. I find that unfortunate, because essential discussion surrounding the original soundtrack (and, in fact, the music itself) is being lost in the mix.

Anyways, I'll stop ranting now. Yes, we both dig this score and I have no problem with either a re-issue or an expanded release down the road, even if I am content with what I've got.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2016 - 3:34 PM   
 By:   Smitty   (Member)

Yeah, it's this 'inferral' which has become all the rage -- a peculiar phenomenon that has only appeared in the last 15 years or so. Post any given thread on "what score you want to see released?", and you'll get any number of people listing scores that already have a release, without any specification other than the film's title and the composer. They're obviously talking about expanded versions, but we have to INFER that because it has become such a pervasive norm these days. I find that unfortunate, because essential discussion surrounding the original soundtrack (and, in fact, the music itself) is being lost in the mix.

Anyways, I'll stop ranting now. Yes, we both dig this score and I have no problem with either a re-issue or an expanded release down the road, even if I am content with what I've got.


I feel the same way in general. However, pedantic bickering is also annoying, as are people who say "anyways."

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 15, 2016 - 12:25 AM   
 By:   Christian Reiffenrath   (Member)

Just want to mention that the blu ray of it looks and sounds really good, much better than the dvd. I first bought it in the early 90's on vhs (glorious 4:3 full frame and cut by 5 minutes) after i got the varese cd and it has never left the top 10 of my favourite movies ever since. Guilty Pleasure!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 15, 2016 - 5:59 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

I'm bemused by the resurrection of a film best long forgotten ... at least, IMHO.

.....

Mitch


Allow me to attempt further bemusement smile. I adored both film and score from the moment it flickered onto the screen on first release, and saw it two or three times at the cinema after that. I even took my dad's Dictaphone to record the opening theme on one of the repeat showings.

I liked the character of Hemlock, and although I can't recall if I read the book first or afterwards, it threw more light onto him, which enhanced it. Trevanian wrote a second Hemlock book, The Loo Sanction, and I waited in vain for Clint to make another appearance - perhaps the title was enough to discourage a repeat.

This was one of the scores that cemented my liking for Williams, with that perfect main theme and I also loved the icy mountain music. The training sequences remain a favourite combination of film and score, not in the league of Ecstasy of Gold (what is?) but truly memorable.

Would I buy another iteration of the score? You bet I would.

 
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