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 Posted:   Sep 16, 2020 - 4:48 AM   
 By:   William R.   (Member)

The opening of PONYO had me in tears.

 
 Posted:   Sep 16, 2020 - 7:13 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

I'm not a fan of those symphonic suites. Ive tried many. I guess there just to different. I also don't care for the Disneyfied Laputa score. I don't have an issue with synth when done well by a master composer like Hisaishi.

I tend to agree (though I do play the new Laputa sometimes--it came in the Miyazaki CD box set I saved for ages to get lol). I think of course they're great for concert experiences (I guess I'll get to hear one when I finally see Hisaishi in Vancouver--postponed to next year--since he seems to be rotating which concert suite he includes). And maybe I'm just too familiar with the actual soundtracks, but they're by far my preference.

And yeah--even the 1980s minimalist synth work--which is afterall the style Hisaishi started in--in Nausicaa and Laputa appeals to me. But his more subtle use of synths in the Miyazaki scores from the 90s on is also effective and missed in the symphony versions--ie the synth accents in parts of Mononoke. Or one of his greatest brief pieces, Madness from Porco Rosso always is missing something to me when done in concert and that's the slightly eerie accompanying synths during parts of it.


I should point out I do like his concerts though as you said some don't translate well to full orchestra.

 
 Posted:   Sep 16, 2020 - 7:11 PM   
 By:   Lattanzi   (Member)

For me it's Howl's Moving Castle. It's such a rich and well developed score, with some great themes and orchestration. Runners up for me would be Porco Rosso, Spirited Away and The Wind Rises.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 17, 2020 - 5:12 AM   
 By:   EricHG30   (Member)

I also don't care for the Disneyfied Laputa score. I don't have an issue with synth when done well by a master composer like Hisaishi.

BTW you weren't kidding when you call the new Laputa score "Disneyfied" (and I say that as a fan of a big number of Disney scores). I know I'd watched the English dub of Laputa with that score when the DVD from Disney first came out, but probably not since then... till just today. I'm mostly familiar with the score from the CD in the Miyazaki soundtrack box set, and it plays fine isolated.

But today, while looking after my niece and nephew, they asked to watch a movie and Laputa is one of the few major Ghiblis that they still hadn't seen and, due to the age of my niece, it was out of the question to watch it subtitled. I knew that Hisaishi had replaced a number of silent scenes with music and the "dated" (to some) synth tracks for some of the action scenes, but even right near the start when Pazu finds Sheeta falling, the original had light, tinkling (for lack of a better word) synths that sound magical to accompany her--nothing much more. The heavily orchestrated and, yes, Disney new score, on the other hand, really ruins a lot of the magic of that moment. And of course that's just the first of many scenes like that...

 
 Posted:   Sep 17, 2020 - 6:33 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

For me it's Howl's Moving Castle. It's such a rich and well developed score, with some great themes and orchestration. Runners up for me would be Porco Rosso, Spirited Away and The Wind Rises.

I don't recall Howl's Moving Castle. I didn't like the film. I'll check out the score on YT.

 
 Posted:   Sep 17, 2020 - 6:39 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

I also don't care for the Disneyfied Laputa score. I don't have an issue with synth when done well by a master composer like Hisaishi.

BTW you weren't kidding when you call the new Laputa score "Disneyfied" (and I say that as a fan of a big number of Disney scores). I know I'd watched the English dub of Laputa with that score when the DVD from Disney first came out, but probably not since then... till just today. I'm mostly familiar with the score from the CD in the Miyazaki soundtrack box set, and it plays fine isolated.

But today, while looking after my niece and nephew, they asked to watch a movie and Laputa is one of the few major Ghiblis that they still hadn't seen and, due to the age of my niece, it was out of the question to watch it subtitled. I knew that Hisaishi had replaced a number of silent scenes with music and the "dated" (to some) synth tracks for some of the action scenes, but even right near the start when Pazu finds Sheeta falling, the original had light, tinkling (for lack of a better word) synths that sound magical to accompany her--nothing much more. The heavily orchestrated and, yes, Disney new score, on the other hand, really ruins a lot of the magic of that moment. And of course that's just the first of many scenes like that...


Yes, I agree with all of that. Perhaps part of it is loving what you're used to. But I really cannot stand the re-score and I never watch English dubs to begin with. (I did once just to hear the new score.)

When I said "Disneyfied" I wasn't saying anything negative about Disney scores. They're some of my favorites in fact. I meant it more in this current age where Disney as a corporation muddles and messes with things, everything is done by committee, and they don't believe or respect the artist.

I'm shocked Hayao Miyazaki let them mess with his film. He swore after the initial release of Naussica in the US he would never let a foreign distributors alter his films again.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2020 - 9:07 PM   
 By:   EricHG30   (Member)


I'm shocked Hayao Miyazaki let them mess with his film. He swore after the initial release of Naussica in the US he would never let a foreign distributors alter his films again.


True, but at least in this case Hisaishi got to oversee it (no matter what I think of the end result). Kiki's Delivery Service, the dub of which was done at the same time, has non-Hisaishi music added to fill some of the silence--from Wiki: "Disney's English dub of Kiki's Delivery Service contained some changes, which have been described as "pragmatic".[42] The changes were approved by Miyazaki and Studio Ghibli.[43][44] There are a number of additions and embellishments to the film's musical score, and several lavish sound effects over sections that are silent in the Japanese original. The extra pieces of music, composed by Paul Chihara, range from soft piano music to a string-plucked rendition of Edvard Grieg's In the Hall of the Mountain King."

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2020 - 9:32 PM   
 By:   Thomasd76   (Member)

I can only repeat the usual suspects and add Howl's Moving Castle, especially the pre-final symphonic album with some very different music.

But this is my favorite single go-to Hisaishi album, partly because it is a great summary of my favorite of his works for Ghibli, and mostly because of the unique version of Madness from Porco Rosso [url=https://www.rachat-credit-info.com/]rachat de credit tresorerie[/url], just about my favorite track.

Hisaishi Meets Miyazaki Films

You're absolutely right. The album itself is not bad at all.

 
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