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 Posted:   Apr 8, 2023 - 5:48 AM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

And for the next ?

Goliath and the conquest of Baghdad
The High Bright Sun

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 8, 2023 - 6:13 AM   
 By:   slint   (Member)

And for the next ?

Goliath and the conquest of Baghdad
The High Bright Sun


Great news and good guesses!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 8, 2023 - 6:42 AM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

Stefan, any further info/ developments with Conspiracy of Hearts?

No, unfortunately not. I don´t know what happened with the two tapes.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 8, 2023 - 6:49 AM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

And for the next ?
Goliath and the conquest of Baghdad
The High Bright Sun


Not these two.
Of GOLIA ALLA CONQUISTA DI BAGDAD there is nothing available in the estate anyway.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 8, 2023 - 7:00 AM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

Stefan, any further info/ developments with Conspiracy of Hearts?

No, unfortunately not. I don´t know what happened with the two tapes.


A shame!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 8, 2023 - 8:24 AM   
 By:   slint   (Member)

Maybe it is one of those Nazionalmusic western scores after all! Although there is no western score from 1966, so it could be coupled with Zorro Il Ribelle, which is close enough to a western.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 8, 2023 - 8:45 AM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

I dint think they have done any westerns. Usually drama and peplum.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 8, 2023 - 9:07 AM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

Maybe it is one of those Nazionalmusic western scores after all! Although there is no western score from 1966, so it could be coupled with Zorro Il Ribelle, which is close enough to a western.

A really good guess!
In fact, ZORRO IL RIBELLE doesn´t have that much original music as a lot of tracks from previous Lavagnino swashbucklers from ca. 1962/1963 had also been recycled for this soundtrack.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 8, 2023 - 9:16 AM   
 By:   moolik   (Member)

Lavagnino is always a treat.A Western or swashbuckler would be very nice.I recently got the I BRIGANTI ITALIANI cd and man this main title is a hell of a rousing Waxman like tune!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 8, 2023 - 7:09 PM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

I think it would be quite unique if the forthcoming title is the Arabic-language Fagr Yom gedid, directed by Youssef Chahine (for whom Lavagnino scored Saladin a few years prior).

More likely, though, is Lavagnino music for Italian-co-produced genre movies. Here are some wishes:

-) the pirate swashbuckler Il mistero dell'isola maledetta
-) Una ráfaga de plomo - a Middle-Eastern desert sands adventure
-) A 008 operazione sterminio, Umberto Lenzi's secret agent
-) L'uomo di Toledo ... anybody have info on this?
-) Incas vs. Peruvian government in Das Vermächtnis des Inka
-) perhaps even the U.K. The High Bright Sun directed by Ralph Thomas
+
there are about 5 Westerns (excluding those already on discs).

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 9, 2023 - 7:05 AM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

I think it would be quite unique if the forthcoming title is the Arabic-language Fagr Yom gedid, directed by Youssef Chahine (for whom Lavagnino scored Saladin a few years prior).


This is a quite obscure film which has been rediscovered throughout the last few years in Europe as a great melodrama directed by Youssef Chahine in the lush style of the Douglas Sirk movies of the 50s. Also the story about a middle-class woman in her 40s who falls in love with a young working-class student is quite similar.
Lavagnino has indeed been an interesting choice for this kind of film. And he has written some gorgeous music for it which is partly also reminiscent of what Steiner, Skinner or Friedhofer had composed in the US for this genre during the 50s. There is a sumptuous string-laden main theme which near the end of the movie is transformed into a lovely waltz. I would love to release this score (which doesn´t appear in most Lavagnino filmographies at all), but this is probably impossible as neither score manuscript nor tapes of this title can be found in the Lavagnino estate.

Many sources mention 1964 rather than 1965 as release date of the film:
https://www.cinematheque.fr/film/88617.html
https://www.cinematografo.it/film/lalba-di-un-nuovo-giorno-dj0uas0n
https://www.kviff.com/en/programme/film/52/28413-dawn-of-a-new-day
https://www2.bfi.org.uk/films-tv-people/4ce2b7165c7b8
https://www.theculturist.com/home/youssef-chahine-film-retrospective-at-the-cinemathque-franaise
https://mubi.com/de/films/dawn-of-a-new-day


You can even find the complete film with the Arabian title FAJR YAWM JADID on Youtube. The musical highlights appear above all during the last 15 minutes of the movie and are the tracks which begin at 1:56:58, 2:00:53 and 2:03:22 and which don´t contain much dialogue. Enjoy:

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 9, 2023 - 10:22 AM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

Here are some wishes:

-) the pirate swashbuckler Il mistero dell'isola maledetta
-) Una ráfaga de plomo - a Middle-Eastern desert sands adventure
-) L'uomo di Toledo ... anybody have info on this?
-) Incas vs. Peruvian government in Das Vermächtnis des Inka


L´UOMO DI TOLEDO is a second-rate adventure movie set in Spain in the 13th century. The original master tapes exist in Sugar´s CAM catalogue - so no chance to release the music on CD at the moment.
The other three scores mentioned above are all Nazionalmusic titles of which also in the Lavagnino estate nothing exists anymore.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 9, 2023 - 11:44 AM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)


-) the pirate swashbuckler Il mistero dell'isola maledetta

I have just checked the film and I must say that not much is lost if no tapes can be found as most of the music - as with other swashbucklers also directed by Piero Pierotti in 1964/1965 - has been recycled from earlier swashbucklers composed by Lavagnino like GOLIA E IL CAVALIERE MASCHERATO, L´INVINCIBILE CAVALIERE MASCHERATO etc. - all of them made for the same production company Romana Film. It seems that there is very little original music in the MISTERO film besides the Main Title.
This is typical for the time from ca. 1963 onwards as those later Italian swashbucklers and peplums were produced ever more cheaply so that there was no time and budget at all anymore to compose a complete new score for each film. Everything was repeated: The actors were the same, the settings were the same, the scenes were the same and so on... so it is only logical that also a lot of the music was just taken over from the older films made mainly before 1964.
The borderline with this kind of genre is really 1963 - not only with Lavagnino, but also with other composers like Rustichelli. Till about 1963 mainly original music was written for this genre, but then most of the films got so cheaply produced and in such a short time that nothing else than recycling was possible anymore.

 
 
 Posted:   May 20, 2023 - 7:57 AM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

Maybe it is one of those Nazionalmusic western scores after all! Although there is no western score from 1966, so it could be coupled with Zorro Il Ribelle, which is close enough to a western.

A really good guess!
In fact, ZORRO IL RIBELLE doesn´t have that much original music as a lot of tracks from previous Lavagnino swashbucklers from ca. 1962/1963 had also been recycled for this soundtrack.




So it is a Nazionalmusic recording according to the credits in this film. Also indicated is that the music is directed by its author.
I'm curious why 'composed and conducted by' Lavagnino is not printed ... plus I don't see Nazionalmusic mentioned on the reverse.
The absence of a 'stereo' blurb means all tracks are monaural, too.

 
 
 Posted:   May 20, 2023 - 8:22 AM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

So it is a Nazionalmusic recording according to the credits in this film. Also indicated is that the music is directed by its author.
I'm curious why 'composed and conducted by' Lavagnino is not printed ... plus I don't see Nazionalmusic mentioned on the reverse.
The absence of a 'stereo' blurb means all tracks are monaural, too.


It is just the same as with for example our CD releases of IL RELITTO or DAMON AND PYTHIAS which were also former Nazionalmusic titles. Again you will find therefore a "thank you" to Beat Records (Daniele De Gemini) who now manage the Nazionalmusic catalogue - but who don´t have any tapes for these scores anymore - on the last page of the booklet (not on the back cover).
GLI UOMINI DAL PASSO PESANTE is in mono whereas the tracks especially recorded for ZORRO IL RIBELLE are in stereo - but a quite "extreme" or "odd" stereo - it seems that one small section of the orchestra was recorded with one microphone, the other with another and in the end both were put together. In one case even a vocal overlay was recorded in only one channnel whereas the other channel was used for the instrumental playback (taken from an earlier Lavagnino score)
GLI UOMINI DAL PASSO PESANTE was conducted by the composer - maybe we forgot to mention that on the cover - whereas there is no indication on the tape nor in the Main Title credits of the ZORRO picture about a conductor. It is obvious why: As all of the main themes were taken over from older Lavagnino scores from 1962/1963 like for example GOLIA E IL CAVALIERE MASCHERATO.

 
 Posted:   May 20, 2023 - 8:42 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I think I’m going to have to get this one as a fan of Lavagnino, westerns, and Zorro!

Why is the Main Title one of the damaged tracks from Zorro? Could it not be taken clean off the film audio itself?

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   May 20, 2023 - 8:50 AM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

Why is the Main Title one of the damaged tracks from Zorro? Could it not be taken clean off the film audio itself?

The problem is that there is no really good copy of the film available. Therefore the sound quality is not the best one on this track - above all if you compare it with the other tracks which were especially recorded in 1966 and which we had at our disposal on the tape from the estate.
The ZORRO IL RIBELLE Main Title had in fact been recycled from the swashbuckler film GOLIA E IL CAVALIERE MASCHERATO (from 1963) which I have just mentioned above. But even though it was not on the tape, we wanted to at least add the Main Title of the film to our CD.

 
 Posted:   May 20, 2023 - 11:16 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Ah, thanks for the explanation! Is it the only cue on this album taken from an earlier score?

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   May 20, 2023 - 12:17 PM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

Ah, thanks for the explanation! Is it the only cue on this album taken from an earlier score?


There is only one other on the album which in fact was the former Main Title from ZORRO CONTRO MACISTE (1962). It is the last track on the album with the title "The Rebels Gather". Everything else regarding ZORRO IL RIBELLE comes from the one stereo tape we had. All of this is of course explained in the booklet.

 
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