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 Posted:   Dec 1, 2014 - 7:33 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

It is inconceivable that this truly landmark release does not yet have a thread of its own, so I'm starting one.

Yes, I know, some scoff. "The score is too loud and intrusive," they say. Or maybe they just bristle at a classical personality's single dramatic score being so lauded. I don't know. I do know that this is fantastic music, and I can't imagine anybody passing on this one.

Can't wait to get it!

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 1, 2014 - 7:42 PM   
 By:   nerfTractor   (Member)

Truly a once-in-lifetime moment. I'm absolutely thrilled that the only film score written by this legendary man, and personal hero of mine, is finally getting the Rolls Royce treatment from Intrada. This is one I cannot wait to savor its every note of.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 1, 2014 - 7:47 PM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)

The best release of 2014. Followed by It's a Wonderful Life, The Betsy, Mister Moses, and The List of Adrian Messenger.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 1, 2014 - 8:04 PM   
 By:   Broughtfan   (Member)

Truly a once-in-lifetime moment. I'm absolutely thrilled that the only film score written by this legendary man, and personal hero of mine, is finally getting the Rolls Royce treatment from Intrada. This is one I cannot wait to savor it's every note of.

Agreed. This is a true film music classic (despite the naysayers), written by one of this country's greatest musical talents.

FYI: Wasn't able to access the Intrada musicians listing, but am pretty sure that is John Williams' dad on timpani as he was at the time (Spring 1954) under contract to Columbia Pictures. Also, that's Jim Decker playing the legendary main title horn solo. Jim was also first horn on most of the versions of the ST: TOS main title, (including the revised second season arrangement recorded by Courage during the June 1967 library session).

 
 Posted:   Dec 1, 2014 - 8:04 PM   
 By:   Josh   (Member)

I'm not familiar with the film or score, but nevertheless I'm really looking forward to this!

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 1, 2014 - 8:18 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

Wow, that Main Title sounds just like Jerry's L.A. CONFIDENTIAL. Well at least the first 6 notes seem identical.

Lenny:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_AYzvs3rYI&list=PL08F83F684AFA3BB8

Jerry:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0GMfc0lU3Y&list=PL2143F6235B04DB7C&index=11


And there's a lot of banging drumming in both scores too.

Homage or rip off?

 
 Posted:   Dec 1, 2014 - 8:27 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

How about "Rite of Spring?" I've been meaning to start a thread on that. Seems "Rite of Spring" is the most aped classical music in film score history.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 1, 2014 - 8:49 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

It is inconceivable that this truly landmark release does not yet have a thread of its own, so I'm starting one.

Yes, I know, some scoff. "The score is too loud and intrusive," they say. Or maybe they just bristle at a classical personality's single dramatic score being so lauded. I don't know. I do know that this is fantastic music, and I can't imagine anybody passing on this one.

Can't wait to get it!


I'm with you all the way. But there are threads out there--here's one I remember well:
http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?forumID=1&pageID=1&threadID=21029&archive=1

 
 Posted:   Dec 1, 2014 - 10:02 PM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

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 Posted:   Dec 1, 2014 - 10:06 PM   
 By:   John B. Archibald   (Member)

Is there any information about why Lenny B. never wrote another film score?

Did he just have too many other things to do?

Or maybe he couldn't have cared less, being more of a concert artist, composer and conductor.

I remember seeing him on TV in the 50's, with his "Young People's Concerts," which he narrated most eloquently.

At this time, he was also composing for the theatre, most notably "Candide" (1956), and "West Side Story" (1957), as I recall, both of which are now regarded as masterpieces.

So it's not like he didn't have anything else to do.

Input?

 
 Posted:   Dec 1, 2014 - 10:50 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

In the summer of 1990, I was visiting Boston with a musician friend of mine, and he said we should drive to Tanglewood (where he'd performed the year before) to see what was happening. When we got there, Leonard Bernstein was conducting a closed rehearsal of what I seem to recall was a Copland symphony. My friend knew one of "Lenny's boys," who was standing by the door, and he let us in.

I watched Bernstein conduct from just a few feet away. He would stop the orchestra on occasion to bark out instructions, sounding almost exactly like my middle school music teacher. Eventually, he finished the rehearsal and walked right by us. My friend nodded to him (he'd played for him the previous summer), and I tried to think of something to say but chickened out. A few months later, Bernstein died, never having had the benefit of whatever witty comment I failed to come up with.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 1, 2014 - 11:11 PM   
 By:   RM Eastman   (Member)

Holy Moly this is one to shout about! A great film and a great film score by Leonard Bernstein finally released by the wonderful Intrada- WOW!!

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 1, 2014 - 11:41 PM   
 By:   John Black   (Member)

I love this score, but hate hearing it bastardized in the striptease horror flick SCREAMING MIMI (1958). I hope Mr. Bernstein was paid for that reuse of his score.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 2, 2014 - 12:01 AM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

I do know that this is fantastic music, and I can't imagine anybody passing on this one.

Can you really not imagine some people being turned off by the sound quality?

Especially cues that are almost entirely right panned for some strange reason?

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 2, 2014 - 3:59 AM   
 By:   counterpoint   (Member)

This is a landmark score by one of the best composers and conductors of the 20th century to a fantastic film and Intrada probably did the best they could with the masters. But that unfortunately doesn`t change the fact that the tapes show their age. No matter how good the music is, the sound quality is terrible.

ON THE WATERFRONT along with NIGHT OF THE HUNTER are my personal favorites for a rerecording. Although the musicians in Prague or Moscow probably would have a hard time keeping up with the tempo of the Bernstein score.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 2, 2014 - 4:04 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

I've seen on the waterfront and while the movie was good (performances, cinematography), I distinctly remember experiencing the music as just too loud and too busy in places. Of course that was the norm back in that period, I do wonder how I would enjoy it apart from the movie on album. I will definitely give it a try.

 
 Posted:   Dec 2, 2014 - 4:15 AM   
 By:   TheSeeker   (Member)

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 2, 2014 - 4:20 AM   
 By:   MCurry29   (Member)

I'm not familiar with the film or score, but nevertheless I'm really looking forward to this!

Huh? You've never seen the film?!?!? Go now young man and watch!

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 2, 2014 - 5:18 AM   
 By:   The CinemaScope Cat   (Member)

Grab the smelling salts quick! I've had only four Holy Grails. Last year, Kritzerland gave me Maurice Jarre's The Only Game In Town and now Intrada has provided me with On The Waterfront! My cup truly runneth over.

Now just waiting for my other two (Tiomkin's The High And The Mighty, Barry's Tamarind Seed) and they better hurry up! I'm not getting any younger.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 2, 2014 - 5:49 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

I've seen on the waterfront and while the movie was good (performances, cinematography), I distinctly remember experiencing the music as just too loud and too busy in places. Of course that was the norm back in that period, I do wonder how I would enjoy it apart from the movie on album. I will definitely give it a try.

I saw the film recently and felt that the music was intrusive, over-the-top, and not serving the narrative. I have had the LP for ages and have only spun it a few times. I do think that the music is better away from the film than it is in context.

 
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