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Can anyone tell me why Silvestri did not return for the two Russo brother's Captain America films, yet scored their two Avenger films? Also, why was Silvestri not brought on board for the second Avengers film? Thanks.
Well, I don't know if there has ever been any definite official reasons given in public, so all I have to go on are rumors of behind-the-scenes stuff. And the likeliest reason I have heard is Ike Perlmutter, CEO of Marvel Entertainment. For years there was talk of Kevin Feige and Perlmutter having clashes behind the scenes with regards to creative decisions and hiring of people.
For example Perlmutter is reportedly responsible for replacing Terrence Howard with Don Cheadle, because according to his contract, Howard was due a huge pay rise for an Iron Man sequel. Perlmutter loves saving any penny he can, where ever he can, and since "black people all look the same" to him, no brainer. There are even anecdotes of him limiting sodas to one per person at press events, and their press events running out of food. Many a time there were stories in the press of difficult renegotiations with actors, like with Sam Jackson almost quitting as Fury because he was not getting paid enough. If Perlmutter could've fired Robert Downey Jr., he would have, just to save money. He must've had an aneurysm looking at his paychecks.
And like actors, composers also get a pay rise when they return for a sequel. So what do you think a man like Perlmutter has to say about that? "Get a new one, it's cheaper." Creatives like Kevin Feige and the directors most likely would've preferred keeping more continuity with the music and composers, but they have to pick their battles, and sometimes they win, sometimes they lose.
Things finally came to a head between Feige and Perlmutter during the making of Civil War. Perlmutter was not willing to pay to get Robert Downey Jr. for the film. Apparently Feige had to get Alan Horn/Disney to step in, and it must've been a "either he goes or I go" situation, since suddenly in late 2015 we got news that Feige was now reporting directly to Disney, and Perlmutter had no more say in the Marvel film productions.
Maybe it's just a coincidence that ever since Perlmutter got "put aside", we suddenly see Silvestri returning to score Avengers sequels and other composers returning more consistently as well to score sequels in the MCU.
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It is sad to me how little love Thor: The Dark World gets.
And that cue when we come upon Asgard...tricky Dick would have liked it lol!
Nixon?
Can anyone tell me why Silvestri did not return for the two Russo brother's Captain America films, yet scored their two Avenger films? Also, why was Silvestri not brought on board for the second Avengers film? Thanks.
I have no facts, only guesses. Russo brothers wanted to go in a very different direction for Cap. I don't know if Whedon wanted Silvestri for Avengers or not. Just judging by actors Whedon sticks with the same folks, so that surprised me when Silvestri didn't come back.
Tyler was momentarily Marvel's golden boy. (Two consecutive movies, the first Marvel fanfare, and the second Avengers.) But then it appears he got in over his head (or something else went wrong) and they brought in Elfman. Ultron remains the most existing theme filled film in the MCU. (I don't know why, but Tyler's light, bouncy take on Cap's theme in Thor: The Dark World is just about my favorite.)
This is the most guess-y: After all the rigamarole on Ultron (whatever it was) Marvel probably wanted to go back to tried and true for Infinity War. I don't know if Silvestri was the Russo's choice or the studio's.
Does anyone know how much of a score guy Kevin Feige is?
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For example Perlmutter is reportedly responsible for replacing Terrence Howard with Don Cheadle, because according to his contract, Howard was due a huge pay rise for an Iron Man sequel. Perlmutter loves saving any penny he can, where ever he can, and since "black people all look the same" to him, no brainer.
...and I thought that Terrence Howard was shown the door because he was an insufferable prick--not to mention perpetual domestic abuser--whom everyone despised on the IRON MAN set. Who knew it was one of those evil, soda-hoarding Hollywood tycoons who was at fault all along?
Gotta love this place.
Do you realize, sir, that both can be true. Howard can be a prick, and also fired for being too expensive.
Sources:
https://www.ft.com/content/34fe39a6-e79f-11e1-8686-00144feab49a#axzz3kUyPZEfg
https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2015/09/marvel-studios-ike-perlmutter-kevin-feige
https://screenrant.com/why-terrence-howard-didnt-return-for-iron-man-2-salary/
https://www.today.com/entertainment/terrence-howard-says-robert-downey-jr-took-money-pushed-him-2D11603298
Howard had a 3 picture deal. He got $4.5 million for the first film (more than Downey), and was supposed to get $8 million for the second. Instead Marvel was trying to throw the deal out and offered him $1 million. So, he would've been hired for IM2 if he agreed to come back with a reduced salary, even if he was a prick.
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...." Soda-hoarding Hollywood tycoons" ?
Don't know wtf that means but I like it!
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Does anyone have the Japanese CD to Captain America: Civil War? I hear there is a bonus track.
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Phase FOUR?
N[oooooooooooooo!
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I believe Kevin Feige has done a tremendous job of maintaining the spirit of the characters and hewing to a significant fidelity to their origin stories. Can't wait for phase 4.
Greg Espinoza
I am sooooo interested to see where they go from here. Spider-Man: Far Form Home is kind of an epilogue to Phase 3, so it should be interesting to follow how they develop the storyline and the other characters. I wonder if people will retain their interest or not...
Overall, I love the music of the MCU. A few hiccups here and there early on, but the strength inherent in each score, the heroism and sensitivity and the themes (when they have them) are really quite nice. Silvestri, Tyler, Giacchino and Bates have given me hours of enjoyment. It took me a few tries to really like Mothersbaugh and Jackman's work, but I am on board with them. John Debney's Iron Man 2 score is criminally underrated.
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I bought the Captain America First Avenger picture disc this weekend at a local record store (he sold it to me for half price because it had been sitting in his shop for a long time and he was happy to get rid of it). And it is just a joy to listen to. It's a nicely curated selection of tracks (IMHO) and unlike the CD contains the Captain America March.
https://amzn.to/2VUA6Tz
I heartily recommend it if you're into vinyl and MCU scores.
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I bought the Captain America First Avenger picture disc this weekend at a local record store (he sold it to me for half price because it had been sitting in his shop for a long time and he was happy to get rid of it). And it is just a joy to listen to. It's a nicely curated selection of tracks (IMHO) and unlike the CD contains the Captain America March.
https://amzn.to/2VUA6Tz
I heartily recommend it if you're into vinyl and MCU scores.
Interesting playlist. It goes through the movie on side one, then again from a different direction on side two.
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I bought the Captain America First Avenger picture disc this weekend at a local record store (he sold it to me for half price because it had been sitting in his shop for a long time and he was happy to get rid of it). And it is just a joy to listen to. It's a nicely curated selection of tracks (IMHO) and unlike the CD contains the Captain America March.
https://amzn.to/2VUA6Tz
I heartily recommend it if you're into vinyl and MCU scores.
Interesting playlist. It goes through the movie on side one, then again from a different direction on side two.
Yeah, the reverse order is odd and yet somehow works (for me) and (in my mind at least) is a passive aggressive dig at C&C nerds.
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Yeah, the reverse order is odd and yet somehow works (for me) and (in my mind at least) is a passive aggressive dig at C&C nerds.
That was the first thing I thought of: 30 years ago this track order wouldn't have gotten a second glance. 
And if we were lucky ONLY side one of Iron Man would have been all songs.
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It must have been something being the ideal age when Marvel changed comics forever in 1961.
