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CD only for me. Digital is not a hard copy of the album, which is a very meaningful difference I honestly thought more people would embrace. It seems few do. At least they don't mention it. I also enjoy the ritual of physically putting on an album, which has no equal.
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CD only for me. Digital is not a hard copy of the album, which is a very meaningful difference I honestly thought more people would embrace. It seems few do. At least they don't mention it. I also enjoy the ritual of physically putting on an album, which has no equal.
I admit I enjoy it much more to be able to access all my music via touchscreen devices, scrolling and selecting whatever I want to play. To have my entire collection ripped, tagged and ready is what has no equal to me. I started with LPs, then came CDs, which were much better, but having it all on a NAS and stream it to my hifi is even way better. I would not want to go back.
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I just inserted a CD (La-La Land CHAPLIN) and listen to it. I haven't actually put in a CD to listen to in years, and I'm just doing it for the heck of it. One difference is that it now says "Track 3" instead of "To the Asylum".
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I just inserted a CD (La-La Land CHAPLIN) and listen to it. I haven't actually put in a CD to listen to in years, and I'm just doing it for the heck of it. One difference is that it now says "Track 3" instead of "To the Asylum".
The masters we deliver have CD-Text but for some reason our Sony pressed discs don't include it. The new Spider-Man album is the same way.
Interesting. Yeah, there's no CD text on the album. I got SPIDER-MAN as well, though have not yet listened to it.
Just read the liner notes to CHAPLIN by Jon Burlingame; current track is "Remembering Hetty". Just a wonderul album and a considerable upgrade over the previous OST release. This is a classy John Barry score, and now it finally had the presentation it deserves.
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A rant I can agree with:
The Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad State of Classical Music Streaming, Part I
https://medium.com/@FactoryOptimizr/the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-state-of-classical-music-streaming-b348995c46b7
That is the most annoying thing about streaming classical music: the tagging is hopelessly inconsistent and at times completely useless. At the core of the article: "Spotify and Apple Music and Pandora and Amazon Music are no better. Try searching for Beethoven String Quartet No. 7 with the Alban Berg Quartet on any of these services and you’ll get a mishmash of results…many of which aren’t string quartets — or even Beethoven (let alone the Alban Berg Quartet)!"
That's why when I started to transfer my collection from CD to lossless files, I spent some time upfront to consider the best way to tag the CDs; programs like iTunes were clearly made with pop music in mind and have little provisions for classical music. It was tricky enough to come up with a system that allows me (or anyone else in the house) to navigate the music collection with relative ease and confidence. Ideally, one should be be able to search the collection for any performer, composer, or work and get all the results. It's still not perfect, but I am aghast when I see how inconsistently and arbitrarily classical music is often tagged.
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I have assumed that it is the label who assigns the various tags to albums rather than the streaming services?
But, whoever does it, they need to get together and standardise things.
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A rant I can agree with:
The Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad State of Classical Music Streaming, Part I
That is the most annoying thing about streaming classical music: the tagging is hopelessly inconsistent and at times completely useless. ... It's still not perfect, but I am aghast when I see how inconsistently and arbitrarily classical music is often tagged.
Again, Nicolai ... 100% agreed!
When I moved over to streaming (not a straight stop/start from CD play, but over a period of months) I already owned an extensive library of CD music. If I hadn't I would have bought into a streaming service ...
... and would probably have spent far too much time searching for an album rather than choosing and listening - and, no doubt, screaming at the poor cataloguing system. I've had two free subscriptions to Tidal (90 days each time) and whilst very happy with the sound quality its menu options are awful.
The article is correct when it distinguishes classical from popular music (very broad labels) in that the principle of Album Artist is essential ... and different in the two camps. Whereas Frank Sinatra, The Beatles, etc. are usually the Album Artist in the latter genre, it is the composer - not the performer - who holds this status in the former genre.
I apply the same rule to soundtrack music, e.g. Joel McNeely's recording of John Barry's Body Heat (1998) is a John Barry album. Joel McNeely is the Contributing (Performing) artist categorised as the Track Artist in my streaming program (AssetNAS). Switching these around would mean that album would not appear when I called up John Barry albums.
On another forum I was told that Beethoven, etc. is the Composer (obviously) and his works can be found by searching under that menu option. Whilst this works in many/most cases the huge number of composers - incl. lyricists - means it takes much longer to find a particular work. And in the rare scenario where a work has another composer contribute one or more pieces, you would have to consider this (I believe MinimServer has the facility to pick up such additional tracks).
As for album titles, etc. and albums which feature more than one work (sometimes by different composers), I've taken to separating the works though I do have a large number of composite albums - e.g. Eduardo Mata's 1981 album (with Dallas SO) of concert hall standards by Tchaikovsky and 3 others has no title so, for me, it's called Orchestral Encores [Mata/DSO] under Album Artist Various-Classical-Orchestral. Not perfect but workable.
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I apply the same rule to soundtrack music, e.g. Joel McNeely's recording of John Barry's Body Heat (1998) is a John Barry album. Joel McNeely is the Contributing (Performing) artist categorised as the Track Artist in my streaming program (AssetNAS). Switching these around would mean that album would not appear when I called up John Barry albums.
Yes, I do the same, that works well for me. Ludwig van Beethoven or Bernard Herrmann in the "Album Artist Tag", conductor and orchestra in the performing artist tag; that's the method that works best for classical music as far as I can tell.
On another forum I was told that Beethoven, etc. is the Composer (obviously) and his works can be found by searching under that menu option. Whilst this works in many/most cases the huge number of composers - incl. lyricists - means it takes much longer to find a particular work.
Agreed, they can be "found" in the sense that you can type in the name of the composer and find them (and I do put that name in the "composer tag" as well), but when I relax in the evening I also want to just "scroll" through my collection (often on my tablet) and not type. So when I scroll along "Bach" I find the various recording of the Goldberg Variations I have in one place.
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I have assumed that it is the label who assigns the various tags to albums rather than the streaming services?
But, whoever does it, they need to get together and standardise things.
Yes, it's definitely the labels.
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