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 Posted:   Jun 29, 2014 - 6:15 PM   
 By:   films1   (Member)

I have the DVD its a lovely score ....


I tried looking for Paul Gilreath.com but its not there ...

However I can see that he is now a Dentist ... interesting career move

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2014 - 8:16 PM   
 By:   Roger Feigelson   (Member)

I put up a suite of score ripped from the film on Youtube, and he left a message last year:

Just saw some of the comments here. I wrote the score to the US release for Making Contact... I was a kid at just 23 years old. Ah, listening to this brings back memories. The company that released the US version wanted an orchestral score as compared to the electronic score that was originally used for the German version. This was the first orchestral score I did and it was a work in exploration... and by that I mean, I was exploring how the hell to write a score. I had written a couple of other electronic scores, but this was the first feature length orchestral one. I wrote non stop for 3 weeks, night and day. Did all the orchestrations myself. Then had 6 copiest over to my apartment for 2 days writing out the parts, then proofing them. I conducted the session, which was done in 7 hours. It was supposed to be a 5 hour recording (that was what we had budgeted) and we had to record almost 80 minutes of music! I remember that I called New World at the end of 5 hours with still 20 minutes of music to record to ask for another $2500 to pay the musicians to do another hour. The musicians ended up giving me an hour for free because they loved the score and wanted to help the newbie. One of the most wonderful days of my life and something I'll always remember even at 52 years old dentist in Atlanta now... Thanks for listening to my rant.
PG


I can't find the suite, can you post a link?

EDIT: nevermind I found it. Sounds just like a John Williams score from the 80's. I want this on CD!!


Sounds to me like the film was temp tracked with Battle Beyond the Stars. Definitely that flavor of Horner in there. Nice score.

 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2014 - 8:33 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

I tried looking for Paul Gilreath.com but its not there ...

However I can see that he is now a Dentist ... interesting career move

No longer a need to have it, since he's a dentist now.


I think Fred Werner is now a bank manager (or head of a bank chain).

Richard Lewis Warren is an actor now.


I think there was somebody else that changed professions, but I can't recall his name.



On the plus side, you can now get dentistry from somebody who can talk about film scores while he does it. ;-)


If only some enterprising label would get this out.....

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2014 - 4:38 PM   
 By:   FalkirkBairn   (Member)

I see that on BSX's digital release of Gilreath's score for the film NO RETREAT, NO SURRENDER the first track listed is "Making Contact - Trailer Music".

http://www.amazon.co.uk/No-Retreat-Surrender-Original-Soundtrack/dp/B007YQGB10/ref=sr_1_1?s=dmusic&ie=UTF8&qid=1404253940&sr=1-1&keywords=Paul+Gilreath

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2014 - 4:48 PM   
 By:   bobbengan   (Member)

I see that on BSX's digital release of Gilreath's score for the film NO RETREAT, NO SURRENDER the first track listed is "Making Contact - Trailer Music".

http://www.amazon.co.uk/No-Retreat-Surrender-Original-Soundtrack/dp/B007YQGB10/ref=sr_1_1?s=dmusic&ie=UTF8&qid=1404253940&sr=1-1&keywords=Paul+Gilreath


Yea, I purchased that single cue on iTunes. Thematically not much of the material from the body of the score is present in it. Don't get too excited about it...

 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2014 - 5:17 PM   
 By:   KevinSmith   (Member)

I put up a suite of score ripped from the film on Youtube, and he left a message last year:

Just saw some of the comments here. I wrote the score to the US release for Making Contact... I was a kid at just 23 years old. Ah, listening to this brings back memories. The company that released the US version wanted an orchestral score as compared to the electronic score that was originally used for the German version. This was the first orchestral score I did and it was a work in exploration... and by that I mean, I was exploring how the hell to write a score. I had written a couple of other electronic scores, but this was the first feature length orchestral one. I wrote non stop for 3 weeks, night and day. Did all the orchestrations myself. Then had 6 copiest over to my apartment for 2 days writing out the parts, then proofing them. I conducted the session, which was done in 7 hours. It was supposed to be a 5 hour recording (that was what we had budgeted) and we had to record almost 80 minutes of music! I remember that I called New World at the end of 5 hours with still 20 minutes of music to record to ask for another $2500 to pay the musicians to do another hour. The musicians ended up giving me an hour for free because they loved the score and wanted to help the newbie. One of the most wonderful days of my life and something I'll always remember even at 52 years old dentist in Atlanta now... Thanks for listening to my rant.
PG


I can't find the suite, can you post a link?

EDIT: nevermind I found it. Sounds just like a John Williams score from the 80's. I want this on CD!!


Sounds to me like the film was temp tracked with Battle Beyond the Stars. Definitely that flavor of Horner in there. Nice score.


Or Star Trek II

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2014 - 9:27 PM   
 By:   bobbengan   (Member)

Sounds to me like the film was temp tracked with Battle Beyond the Stars. Definitely that flavor of Horner in there. Nice score.

Or Star Trek II

Clearly he was asked to replicate the "Horner sound" here. The stunning main title cue is basically a variation on COCOON's central theme. There's also some Goldsmith via POLTERGEIST during the action/suspense writing and a lot of Broughton/Williams throughout during the thematic material.

And yet - I don't care. At all. The music is just such a joy to listen to: Lush, heartfelt, incredibly sincere, phenomenally orchestrated and bearing that youthful energy Horner himself was still riding on at that time. It's the kind of music a young composer eager to make a splash used to write back in the day as a way of saying, "Look at this magnificent noise I can create!"

In that regard, it's just wonderful. What a shame that voice/career went unrealized, though hopefully at the very least this will one day get released.

I mean, if the similarly-great vibrant orchestral score by Terry Plumeri for a ridiculously obscure kiddie fair like MR. ATLAS can see the light of day... Why not something like this?

 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2014 - 11:28 PM   
 By:   Smokey McBongwater   (Member)

Sounds to me like the film was temp tracked with Battle Beyond the Stars. Definitely that flavor of Horner in there. Nice score.

Or Star Trek II


Clearly he was asked to replicate the "Horner sound" here. The stunning main title cue is basically a variation on COCOON's central theme. There's also some Goldsmith via POLTERGEIST during the action/suspense writing and a lot of Broughton/Williams throughout during the thematic material.

And yet - I don't care. At all. The music is just such a joy to listen to: Lush, heartfelt, incredibly sincere, phenomenally orchestrated and bearing that youthful energy Horner himself was still riding on at that time. It's the kind of music a young composer eager to make a splash used to write back in the day as a way of saying, "Look at this magnificent noise I can create!"

In that regard, it's just wonderful. What a shame that voice/career went unrealized, though hopefully at the very least this will one day get released.

I mean, if the similarly-great vibrant orchestral score by Terry Plumeri for a ridiculously obscure kiddie fair like MR. ATLAS can see the light of day... Why not something like this?

Couldn't agree more. It's nice to see that Roger of Intrada posted in this thread. Perhaps he will look into a possible release? I figured if any label were to take a crack at it it would be Intrada or BSX.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 17, 2015 - 10:52 PM   
 By:   bobbengan   (Member)

Figures music this good deserved a bump. One of the many amazing unreleased symphonic hidden treasures of the 80's.

Anyone?

 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2015 - 4:14 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Maybe if we ask Roger or MV really nicely...

 
 Posted:   Nov 23, 2015 - 9:10 PM   
 By:   KevinSmith   (Member)

Maybe if we ask Roger or MV really nicely...

You mean pretty please.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 23, 2015 - 9:39 PM   
 By:   bobbengan   (Member)

Please, label gods? Pretty please?

Can't believe Gilreath was 23 when he wrote this. What might have been, had he stuck with this profession - !

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 23, 2015 - 9:42 PM   
 By:   GoblinScore   (Member)

I haven't heard this at all, but thank you for sharing the composers comments - what a great story!!

-Sean

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2017 - 4:55 AM   
 By:   bobbengan   (Member)

Bumping this, because music this good deserves a release! It's the best early James Horner score he never wrote!

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 26, 2018 - 10:01 PM   
 By:   bobbengan   (Member)

I think this deserves its annual bump.



Even with the obvious 'references' to a certain Horner sound at the time, this really is just such a wonderful score - big, thematic, utterly heartfelt and superbly orchestrated.

Take my money, whichever label can get to this first!

 
 Posted:   Feb 27, 2018 - 9:34 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Yes, the motion is carried. Again.

 
 Posted:   Feb 27, 2018 - 10:04 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Trailer music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7osV2jSjbFY


And for interest sake, one of his synth scores for the U.S. rescore of "No Retreat, No Surrender":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBCLDuuylog

 
 Posted:   Feb 27, 2018 - 12:53 PM   
 By:   Kylo Ren   (Member)

I actually really love the score to the US version of this film, after having known Emmerich's Making Contact from watching it countless times during my childhood.

The German version (known as "Joey") however? My God what was that score all about!? Joey as a film was actually better, and I could even accept the more somber synthesized music in there even, but the moment the score picks up and tries in anyway to be suspenseful or adventurous though? It's everything I cannot tolerate about poorly utilized 80s synth scores. It completely dates and ruins the film at every turn. The writing being just flat out bad, and beyond cheesy makes it even more unbearable.

Joey's music (if you can even call it music at times) literally sounds like a cat being strangled on someone's cheap Roland. It's also so damn manipulative and overbearing in the mix as well that I honestly fantasized about going and finding the guy who wrote it and shoving his head into his keyboard equipment. That's a bit extreme I know, but that's why it's a "fantasy".

Somebody when editing the US version together thankfully agreed. Frankly I shudder at how the classics that inspired this such as E.T./Poltergeist/Close Encounters would have sounded like had "Hubert Bartholomae?" and his synthesizers been behind the music. eek

Basically.... keep the score to Joey far away from me for all eternity and give me this excellent symphonic replacement score please.

I would buy an official release of Making Contact's score in a heartbeat. I for many years thought it was actually Horner who had written the music, so kudos to the people bringing the temp track influences in the score up.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 10, 2020 - 7:44 PM   
 By:   DS   (Member)

A great-sounding rip of the Main and End Titles from the blu-ray:

 
 Posted:   Dec 5, 2020 - 10:51 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Still no release.

 
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