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 Posted:   Aug 30, 2021 - 2:27 PM   
 By:   Michal Turkowski   (Member)

Dear Roger.

In this year classic biblical movie "Sodom and Gomorrah" has been competly restored and remastered. Movie trailer of this cheesy but very entertaining movie looks spectacular in terms of video quality. It was shown few days ago in Italian TV and blu ray release is planned for November/December this year.

So, are they any chances for new remaster of complete Miklos Rozsa score? Previous Digitmovies releases sounds very bad and dissapointing and it is far from complete.

If the movie survived in pristine condition and movie has been remastered, are they a chances that master tapes with Miklos Rozsa classic score also surived and can be released in new, properly remastered edition?

Of course we have great new Prague recording, but every original recording coducted by Rozsa is just pure gold.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 30, 2021 - 2:28 PM   
 By:   TacktheCobbler   (Member)

A few years ago, you mentioned you had a Max Steiner score planned for release. Is this still in the works or has this been canceled?
It was planned but that particular licensor has pretty put a hold on any catalog licensing for now.


Could that particular licensor be Baroda Productions? If yes, then we certainly won´t see a release of Steiner´s THE HANGING TREE in the future. What a pity.


I think Warner’s more likely to be the licensor based on comments elsewhere on this board about Warner being difficult in terms of licensing and the fact that they own the vast majority of Steiner’s film output (including The Hanging Tree).

 
 Posted:   Aug 30, 2021 - 2:37 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

That's a great idea, Michal -- I've heard that the rare expanded RCA Italy multi-LP edition of the score sounds much better than the overprocessed Digitmovies CD release which apparently used it as a source. While it's still not as complete as the Tadlow recording, I would absolutely be interested in a new edition of the original recording under Rozsa's baton, sounding as good as possible. I never listen to the Digitmovies edition now, because the sound is so disappointing.

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 30, 2021 - 2:52 PM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

I think Warner’s more likely to be the licensor based on comments elsewhere on this board about Warner being difficult in terms of licensing and the fact that they own the vast majority of Steiner’s film output (including The Hanging Tree).

I thought that Warners may be a bit too obvious a choice as Roger wrote "that particular licensor". Also some more recent Warner titles from the 1990s and early 2000s could still be released on CD for example by LLL or Varese during the last 1-2 years.

With THE HANGING TREE the licensing is especially complex as Gary Cooper´s own company Baroda Productions was the co-producer of the movie so that apparently not only WB has the rights for it (and the score), but also Baroda.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 30, 2021 - 4:34 PM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

So, are they any chances for new remaster of complete Miklos Rozsa score? Previous Digitmovies releases sounds very bad and dissapointing and it is far from complete.
If the movie survived in pristine condition and movie has been remastered, are they a chances that master tapes with Miklos Rozsa classic score also surived and can be released in new, properly remastered edition?


I don´t think that Intrada can do much about SODOM AND GOMORRAH as the original master tapes of the music are archived in Italy and the rights now belong to Sugar Music in Milan - formerly they were owned by CAM in Rome. So it´s Italian territory and regarding this score you mainly have to deal with them and not with US studios.
Intermezzo/Legend in the mid-80s and then Digitmovies in 2007 just used everything what CAM still had preserved from those master tapes in their archives - of course a few tracks were missing and also for example the choral overlay for "The Dam" track - but something like this is not that unusual for CAM scores from the early 60s. Just keep in mind that it sometimes happens that not everything has survived there throughout all those decades.
Many years ago Joe Caps had posted on this board that apparently Fox in the US had the complete music and effects track of SODOM AND GOMORRRAH in mono - at least at the time when he worked on the DVD for them probably in the late 90s - , but of course they don´t have the master tapes of the music itself as the complete score had been recorded in Italy and also had an Italian music publisher.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 30, 2021 - 5:09 PM   
 By:   TacktheCobbler   (Member)

Quartet could possibly do something about the original recording of Sodom and Gomorrah given the number of CAM-owned scores they’ve released in the past (Falstaff being the most recent one I can think of).

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 30, 2021 - 5:11 PM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

That's a great idea, Michal -- I've heard that the rare expanded RCA Italy multi-LP edition of the score sounds much better than the overprocessed Digitmovies CD release which apparently used it as a source.

Not on RCA, but on the Italian-based Legend label:
https://www.discogs.com/de/Mikl%C3%B3s-R%C3%B3zsa-Sodoma-E-Gomorra-Sodom-And-Gomorrah-Colonna-Sonora-Originale-Del-Film-Original-Motion/release/4675097

By the way, sound is not really that much better than on the Digitmovies CD and there are also a lot of distortions - both LP and CD just used one and the same master tapes from the CAM archive.

 
 Posted:   Aug 30, 2021 - 5:19 PM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)

Seems to be a good time to put Addison's CENTENNIAL back on the request list... along with a decent-sounding release of the score with the best cover painting ever, CUSTER OF THE WEST (Segall).

 
 Posted:   Aug 30, 2021 - 5:29 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

My mistake Stefan — thanks for the info. I’ve got no idea why I had it in my head that RCA Italy did a release.

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 30, 2021 - 5:44 PM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

My mistake Stefan — thanks for the info. I’ve got no idea why I had it in my head that RCA Italy did a release.


Maybe because RCA Spain did a reissue of the regular old RCA soundtrack album from 1962 on its Cinematres label in 1981:
https://www.discogs.com/de/Mikl%C3%B3s-R%C3%B3zsa-Sodoma-Y-Gomorra/release/3407140

This was the first LP edition that I myself had bought of SODOM AND GOMORRAH in the early 80s as it was quite easily available at that time here in Europe.

 
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