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 Posted:   Dec 9, 2023 - 5:26 AM   
 By:   showads   (Member)

What we like and what we can argue is great film scoring are two different things.

I love listening to STAR CRASH and GAME OF DEATH, but would I ever argue that either of them is a great film score?

Not in a million years!

BATTLE BEYOND THE STARS belongs to a fairly large family of film scores that are not great film scores next to the numerous true classics of film scoring, but for various reasons they have become loved by film score fans.

I wouldn't argue it's a great film score, and, yes, of course it rips Goldsmith off very liberally.

But, do you know what? I love listening to it, so who cares?

That's all that really counts, isn't it? That you either love listening to it or you don't?

I don't know whether my love for it is nostalgia, or whether it's because I'm fascinated by Horner's early, developmental period.

Maybe both.

But, I say again, for all the navel gazing we could do about it, we either love it or we don't.

And sometimes we don't love things that we know are canonically great. Go figure.

Perfectly expressed (I love STARCRASH as well)

 
 Posted:   Dec 18, 2023 - 3:52 PM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

John, so you know, I took you up on that, just listened to Destination Mood this morning!


Haha. Thanks! Good for you big grin What did ya think?

I find it a really amazing score. It lays the ground work for – not kidding – science fiction scores in general. Every SF-score owes directly or indirectly to Stevens' music. Not only Goldsmith's SMP, but also Herrmann's Day the earth stood still and Fahrenheit 451, Williams Star Wars, especially the prequels and especially Phantom Menace, Nyman's Gattaca...


Yikes! I missed the reply, and can't believe I wrote Desitination "Mood"! Though now I'm imagining an easy listening take on the soundtrack, which I couldn't help but listen to!

I hear what you are saying, but I would argue that they are all just using approaches and techniques that came out of late 19th and 20th century Classical music - from Debussy, Ravel and Holst to the whole panoply of new and experimental composers. Absolutely Stevens is one of the first, and he does a good job of integrating different sounds into 40's/50's scoring idiom. But I can't say I can remember anything from any of his scores a little bit after I've listened. And I think the influence comes more from the idioms of the time in general, and the bigger models - the Impressionists and so forth.

That said, yes, Destination Moon does indeed sound like a template of science fiction movie music. I just wish I found it more memorable. Nevertheless, I'm listening to it again. But over time I know I'll listen to Battle Beyond more!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 3, 2024 - 7:35 PM   
 By:   GoblinScore   (Member)

Heya Horner Fans!


Check your discs on this one - I just went to play the lp program on disc 2 and saw I had Disc one twice! Bought from Screen Archives and reached out to them.

A stark reminder - check your shite, don't keep it sealed for years til OOP!

"Check your perimeter!"

-Sean

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2024 - 1:15 AM   
 By:   12-Mile Reef   (Member)

My copy arrived in the post this week and I noticed that the cover is different from that posted on intrada's site:



It is a modification of this custom cover posted here by Steffromuk and he is credited as 'cover consultant' in the booklet:



Is this new to the most recent pressing or have they all been like this? Either way it looks great!

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2024 - 1:58 AM   
 By:   SilentWitness   (Member)

Interesting. My copy looks exactly like the one on Intrada's site. I don't see a cover consultant listed in the booklet either, just a media consultant.

 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2024 - 2:26 AM   
 By:   steffromuk   (Member)

My copy arrived in the post this week and I noticed that the cover is different from that posted on intrada's site...

Is this new to the most recent pressing or have they all been like this? Either way it looks great!


I was asked by Intrada if I'd agree to provide my version of the cover for the re-print.

Glad to see they used it.

 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2024 - 4:53 AM   
 By:   other tallguy   (Member)

My copy arrived in the post this week and I noticed that the cover is different from that posted on intrada's site...

Is this new to the most recent pressing or have they all been like this? Either way it looks great!


I was asked by Intrada if I'd agree to provide my version of the cover for the re-print.

Glad to see they used it.


Seriously? How awesome!

 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2024 - 5:31 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

My copy arrived in the post this week and I noticed that the cover is different from that posted on intrada's site...

Is this new to the most recent pressing or have they all been like this? Either way it looks great!


I was asked by Intrada if I'd agree to provide my version of the cover for the re-print.

Glad to see they used it.


Seriously? How awesome!


Indeed awesome! I see some minor tweaks, good job.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2024 - 1:15 PM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

This came in yesterday and I've given it a few spins. Many more will follow I'm sure. I find it "likeable".

I'm actually quite surprised at just how well the full score on Disc 1 plays out. I'm not generally a fan of complete and chronological presentations, but there are no a dull patches here. Thankfully it's not too frantic throughout either. There's a lot of space for the music to breathe.

Another good thing about Disc 1 is that it sounds a lot sharper than the LP presentation, where a lot of reverb was used in order to make the orchestra sound bigger. I don't think that really worked - it sounds like LeRoy Holmes to me. The full score is much clearer, which also brings out the many flubs in the performance, but no mind. I wonder how many times David Newman winced while conducting.

I went back and listened to Prokofiev after my first few listens, particularly ALEXANDER NEVSKY's "Battle on the Ice", and after that I enjoyed the Horner more than ever. Sometimes I think that the less I listen to film scores (and the more I listen to other music) the more I like them on my return.

BUY DIS CD!

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2024 - 1:28 PM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

Mines in having a fkn holiday in customs.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2024 - 1:34 PM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

Och, Graham, this CD is coming over on a boat being steered by MACARTHUR, as he crosses the Atlantic SOLO, unbeknownst to him, ZORRO has SNEAKERS aboard, so SOMETHING WICKED THIS WAY COMES.
Lots of listening for me in the days to come.
Glad you liked it.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2024 - 7:06 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

The charms of this score are just so much fun.
The things that are so bad about it are the things I love it for the most.
The kamikaze orchestral performance that is brilliant in its exuberance and spirit.
The cribs from other popular scores old and new (ST-TMP past STAR WARS to MAG7) and classical works, dictated by the temp-track and what would go on to become Horner's M.O.
But aside from all that, there's this 26 year old kid marshalling his rag-tag band of musicians to deliver 70 odd minutes of sci-fi excitement under all manner of constraints.
And it's ACE.
Such a well thought out and developed score for a full-on B picture with a next to zero music budget.
I can listen to it endlessly and hear something neat and new for the first time, especially in this new Intrada recording with 30 minutes of previously unreleased music.
I haven't played the second disc yet, with the remastered LP that I know off by heart, but I just love this definitive edition 2CD set that really does close the book on this career starting (defining?) score from James Horner.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2024 - 11:11 AM   
 By:   BrenKel   (Member)

The charms of this score are just so much fun.
The things that are so bad about it are the things I love it for the most.
The kamikaze orchestral performance that is brilliant in its exuberance and spirit.
The cribs from other popular scores old and new (ST-TMP past STAR WARS to MAG7) and classical works, dictated by the temp-track and what would go on to become Horner's M.O.
But aside from all that, there's this 26 year old kid marshalling his rag-tag band of musicians to deliver 70 odd minutes of sci-fi excitement under all manner of constraints.
And it's ACE.
Such a well thought out and developed score for a full-on B picture with a next to zero music budget.
I can listen to it endlessly and hear something neat and new for the first time, especially in this new Intrada recording with 30 minutes of previously unreleased music.
I haven't played the second disc yet, with the remastered LP that I know off by heart, but I just love this definitive edition 2CD set that really does close the book on this career starting (defining?) score from James Horner.


Absolutely brilliant! Couldn’t put it better myself. Intrada’s release is fantastic. I have been playing this constantly since it arrived. James Horner…..a genius in the making! Love it!

 
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