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 Posted:   May 18, 2020 - 1:09 PM   
 By:   Jeyl   (Member)

*Eight seconds into the soundtrack

___POP!____

Sweet geezos cripes! What was that? The soundtrack had a huge explosive pop out of no where! Let me check the files and see if it was a bad transfer...

___POP!___

God, that hurts. Ok. Checking the CD. Maybe the optical drive didn't do a good rip.

______

Phew, thank goodness. Now to check and see if there are pops anywhere else. And it just had to be the day when I imported five new soundtrack acquisitions!

 
 Posted:   Feb 28, 2021 - 4:34 AM   
 By:   That Neil Guy   (Member)

Sheet music for Free To Go, autographed by Jerry, on ebay right now.
https://tinyurl.com/4cr6587m

 
 Posted:   Mar 1, 2021 - 2:20 AM   
 By:   Riddick   (Member)

I must say I have waited this new expanded release quite awhile because I like the film and I think the original album was too short. Now that I have listened the expanded album few times through I must say I like the original album even more. There is not so much of a new music here despite this new album is more than twice longer than the original. Only one new noticeable theme on track 10 “ The Pen”, that’s it. Sound quality is very good and new liner notes are nice little extra.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 19, 2021 - 7:42 PM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

Should I hold on to the original album too?

 
 Posted:   Mar 19, 2021 - 7:54 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Should I hold on to the original album too?


Yup. “Following Chen” is slightly altered for the album version. Also a different version of “Eyes on the City”

 
 Posted:   Mar 19, 2021 - 7:57 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Only one new noticeable theme on track 10 “ The Pen”, that’s it.

But that new noticeable theme is also in three other cues, and it is (by far) my favorite part of the entire score, moreso than anything on the original album. I only wish there were more of it and then I'd be a much bigger fan of the entire score!

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Jul 28, 2021 - 5:10 PM   
 By:   Totoro   (Member)

Is "Train Escape" tracked from other cues?

 
 Posted:   Jul 28, 2021 - 5:22 PM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

Should I hold on to the original album too?


Yup. “Following Chen” is slightly altered for the album version. Also a different version of “Eyes on the City”


Ah crap! One more shelf to buy.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 28, 2021 - 5:54 PM   
 By:   Chris Avis   (Member)

Just got this album. My apologies if this has been answered elsewhere, but is there a reason why the CD and booklet design look so different than Varese's other deluxe editions. E.g. the 'bug splat' is missing from the CD...

C

 
 Posted:   Jul 28, 2021 - 7:23 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I suspect the reason is simply oversight. I remember that the cover art also had some weird problems. Luckily I care most about the music and that was handled well. And once I rip the CD and read the booklet, it just sits on my shelf and I can stick a nice custom cover in iTunes…

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 29, 2021 - 2:37 PM   
 By:   Jurassic T. Park   (Member)

I suspect the reason is simply oversight. I remember that the cover art also had some weird problems. Luckily I care most about the music and that was handled well. And once I rip the CD and read the booklet, it just sits on my shelf and I can stick a nice custom cover in iTunes…

Yavar


Wow! Your description of buying this soundtrack just made me stop and realize how awesome it would be to get your take on other Goldsmith scores!

Like, I really enjoy "Air Force One" and I realized it would be cool to hear your opinion on it, and then I started thinking we could have an ongoing "Q&A with Yavar" thread.

But then that might become annoying for you, haha.

 
 Posted:   Jul 29, 2021 - 4:02 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I wonder if you are perhaps being sarcastic, but essentially the Goldsmith Odyssey podcast thread has functioned as an occasional Goldsmith-related Q&A thread:
https://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=126100&forumID=1&archive=0

As for my opinion of Air Force One, I like it a bit better than US Marshals but frankly neither of them does a whole lot for me. They both feel like largely surface level action scores which are quite effective and good don't get me wrong, but to connect with me I need something a little deeper or more interesting. I do think the Russian choral stuff is cool, McNeely impressively channels 70s Goldsmith in some of his action cues, and The Hijacking is in contrast very streamlined but an impressive building action cue as well on Goldsmith's part. But Air Force One wouldn't make my Goldsmith Top 20, even if we are talking about just the 90s I think.

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 29, 2021 - 4:37 PM   
 By:   Jurassic T. Park   (Member)

I wonder if you are perhaps being sarcastic, but essentially the Goldsmith Odyssey podcast thread has functioned as an occasional Goldsmith-related Q&A thread:
https://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=126100&forumID=1&archive=0

As for my opinion of Air Force One, I like it a bit better than US Marshals but frankly neither of them does a whole lot for me. They both feel like largely surface level action scores which are quite effective and good don't get me wrong, but to connect with me I need something a little deeper or more interesting. I do think the Russian choral stuff is cool, McNeely impressively channels 70s Goldsmith in some of his action cues, and The Hijacking is in contrast very streamlined but an impressive building action cue as well on Goldsmith's part. But Air Force One wouldn't make my Goldsmith Top 20, even if we are talking about just the 90s I think.

Yavar


No kidding or sarcasm, just my random thought for the day. This previous thread you linked didn't click in my mind that way but now it does make sense. I think I always read that thread as a reminder of your new podcast and just ended up going there directly to listen.

And thanks for responding about Air Force One! It's a fair and understandable perspective that you shared and now I'm curious about your top 20s for each of the decades (perhaps this already exists and I'll search the threads for it).

On a practical level I think it can be a little hard to maintain conversations in these threads so I appreciate your taking the time to respond quite consistently in the threads you participate in. Thanks!

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 29, 2021 - 4:41 PM   
 By:   Graham   (Member)

Yavar = Good Egg

Graham

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 29, 2021 - 5:09 PM   
 By:   jfallon   (Member)

I love every drop of this action score. Waited a long time for all the music from the cemetery scene. Following Chen is so damn addicting.

 
 Posted:   Jul 29, 2021 - 5:16 PM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

I love every drop of this action score. Waited a long time for all the music from the cemetery scene. Following Chen is so damn addicting.

Agreed. I was mostly of the J.B*. school in the nineties with respect to Mr. Goldsmith's scores. Thankfully, the passage of time, along with what has passed for film music over the last few decades has made me take a well deserved second look at these hidden treasures, bordering on masterpieces in several cases.

* Jeff Bond. Thankfully, he seems to have caught up with these scores as well. wink

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 29, 2021 - 1:52 PM   
 By:   c8   (Member)

Sorry to be a Johnny Come Lately on this one but I just got through listening to this a few times. A few things stand out to me:

1) Goldsmith was capable of so much more than this compositionally and the disappointment in this score isn't unmerited. This score is nothing more than an hour plus of 1-3 lines of instruments playing stingers that have been loosely strung together with simple and mediocre motifs inbetween with noisy electronics filling the sonic space (and I found the one he took from Joel's part of Star Trek: First Contact distracting). The string writing is nearly non-existent.

2) The low end piano writing is incredible.

3) I wanted more of the theme that came in "The Pen." That should have been on the 1998 album to break it up.

4) I can't get enough of this score

5) I saw this movie eons ago. Don't remember much other than it was lousy and Goldsmith's score fit it like a glove. The issue for me is that it sits at the surface and scores the police militarism; it does not explore anything or make any bold statements. Yet also anything more than a simple construct would have overwhelmed the movie.

6) I keep listening to this score because its a brute force exciting listen in spite of #1. Did I say I can't get enough?

 
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