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 Posted:   Aug 30, 2013 - 5:23 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

See? I told you so.

 Posted:   Nov 5, 2013 - 8:08 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Never has Hemingway been channeled so well and so true.

 Posted:   Nov 5, 2013 - 10:01 AM   
 By:   John B. Archibald   (Member)

Interesting new documentary about Hemingway family, RUNNING FROM CRAZY, in which the family's mental illness, over generations, has led to suicide of multiple family members.

Yeah, we were all grand at one time, perhaps Hemingway more than others.

But the demons still lurk, and rush to the surface unannounced....

 Posted:   Nov 6, 2013 - 3:55 AM   
 By:   Jehannum   (Member)

Never has Hemingway been channeled so well and so true.

The rhino disagrees.

 Posted:   Nov 22, 2014 - 11:54 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)


1lb. ground lean beef
2 cloves, minced garlic
2 little green onions, finely chopped
parsley [sic]
1 heaping teaspoon, India relish
2 tablespoons, capers
1 heaping teaspoon, Spice Islands Sage [sic]
1/2 teaspoon Spice Islands Beau Monde Seasoning
1/2 teaspoon Spice Islands Mei Yen Pepper**
salt and pepper
1 egg, beaten in a cup with a fork
About 1/3 cup dry red or white wine
1 tablespoon cooking oil

What to Do

Break up the meat with a fork and scatter the garlic, onion and dry seasonings over it, then mix them into the meat with a fork or your fingers. Let the bowl of meat sit out of the icebox for ten or fifteen minutes while you set the table and make the salad. Add the relish, capers, everything else including wine and let the meat sit, quietly marinating, for another ten minutes if possible.

Now make four fat, juicy patties with your hands. The patties should be an inch thick, and soft in texture but not runny. Have the oil in your frying pan hot but not smoking when you drop the patties and then turn the heat down and fry the burgers about four minutes. Take the pan off the burner and turn the heat high again. Flip the burgers over , put the pan back on the hot fire, then after one minute, turn the heat down again and cook another three minutes. Both sides of the burgers should be crispy brown and the middle pink and juicy.

**Apparently Spice Islands discontinued this. Hat tip goes to Cheryl Lu-Lien Tan at The Paris Review for showing us how to recreate it:
• 9 parts salt
• 9 parts sugar
• 2 parts MSG
If a recipe calls for 1 teaspoon Mei Yen Powder, use 2/3 tsp of the dry recipe (above) mixed with 1/8 tsp of soy sauce.

 Posted:   Nov 22, 2014 - 2:32 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Not only is his passport photo superior to yours, his WWI Red Cross ambulance driver's photo mops the floor with yours.

 Posted:   Nov 22, 2014 - 2:55 PM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

“Hemingway sucks, basically." - Stephen King

 Posted:   Nov 22, 2014 - 3:12 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

"Stephen King got hit by a truck and cried."

"Probably the most bad ass literary figure in history, Papa Hemingway inserted himself into action all over the world. Whether it was serving in both World Wars, hunting big game in Africa, or escaping a plane crash by head-butting the door open, the author of ‘The Old Man And The Sea’ was bad ass to the core. The only person who could kill Hemingway was Hemingway, and he did himself in with a shotgun blast to the face."

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(some inaccuracies in this one, but fun reading nonetheless)

"Ernest Hemingway is a guy that was so manly you grow a beard just reading his name. He was a boxer, a track runner, a football player, a water polo player and a key figure of the debate team, presumably winning most of his arguments with terrifying scowls.

Hemingway served in the first World War as an ambulance driver for the Red Cross in Paris, which at the time was getting the shit bombed out of it. While there, he was seriously wounded by mortar fire but managed to carry an Italian soldier to safety, becoming the first American to win the Italian Silver Medal of Bravery.

He spent the next few years vacationing in Key West and the Bahamas, hunting big game in Kenya, and getting shitfaced with James Joyce. When the Spanish Civil War broke out, Hemingway traveled there and saw combat as a reporter, and in WWII he served in the Navy, tasked with destroying enemy submarines off the coast of Cuba. Later he organized his own partisan group and helped liberate Paris, proving that he could win any conflict with or without the military.

Hemingway spent the last years of his life refusing to die, surviving two consecutive plane crashes, a concussion, temporary paralysis and a massive bushfire.

At one point he was so injured that some American newspapers ran his obituary. Yes, that's right--Hemingway was so badass that he got to read his own obituary.

As for his love life, he went through four wives in 40 years, never spending more than three months as a single man (and in one case, only 17 days). We're guessing that the instant he announced that he was available, a line of women formed outside his door that wrapped around the block."

 Posted:   Nov 22, 2014 - 3:18 PM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

P.S. I was changing channels and stumbled on a Belgian game show not two hours ago and one of the questions asked to complete the book title "the old man and the ...". My mustache knew the answer was "sea" before I even hit that channel.

 Posted:   Nov 22, 2014 - 3:26 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

"Look at these mustaches. Have you ever seen more luxurious facial hair? Nowadays, mustaches mostly belong on gay cops and ironic hipsters, but these dudes pull it off with swag-style of artistic Alpha males."

Made me laugh!

Your complimentary bottle of Eau D'Ernest is on the way, Francis...I'll leave it up to you to decide whether you wear it or drink it--or both.

 Posted:   Nov 22, 2014 - 3:45 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

He was a handsome young man as seen in his passport photo.

Actually Jim, he ALWAYS had another woman waiting for him before he dumped his current wife. He broke two hearts (number 1 and number 2) quite badly. According to a few books about the wives of Hemingway, number 3 dumped him. Number four didn't get dumped because he was getting old and rather sick, but he didn't treat her well. I do admire his novels and short stories, but I have little respect for his romantic life.

 Posted:   Nov 22, 2014 - 3:55 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

I do admire his novels and short stories, but I have little respect for his romantic life.

Same here. In fact, there are really no artists I admire outside of their work. However, "Papa's" exploits are fascinating.

 Posted:   Nov 23, 2015 - 6:20 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Hemingway's "A Moveable Feast" returns to French Bestseller List after Paris Attacks:

 Posted:   Nov 23, 2015 - 7:29 AM   
 By:   John B. Archibald   (Member)

Funny, I've just begun "A Moveable Feast." Been meaning to read it for years.

Other than that, the only Hemingway book I read before was "The Sun Also Rises," which, I understand, was heavily influenced by input from Hemingway's then friend, F. Scott Fitzgerald.

One aspect no one really mentions much was just how many writers of the period, especially Hemingway, were alcoholics. Drink too much is fun when you're young, but a point is reached in your life when the drinking becomes more influential than the life, so that one's later years become a miasma of anger and resentments.

Another aspect contributing to Hemingway's mood at the end of his life was the fact that he lost a lot of property he had in Cuba, which had been taken over by the revolutionary Castro government. At that point, Hemingway's reputation as a novelist was in eclipse, and he was regarded as pretty much of a has-been. "Moveable Feast" rejuvenated his literary reputation, and was a bestseller on its publication, but that didn't take place until after Hemingway's death. (And it's certainly possible that Hemingway's death contributed to general curiosity about his "last" book. E.M.Forster's posthumously published "Maurice" was also a bestseller. Both writers died when their literary reputations had waned.)

There's a funny story I read about Hemingway. When asked by a younger writer about whether he should allow movies to be made from his work, Hemingway's reported advice was, "Go to the border of California, throw the manuscript across, grab the money, and run." Funny. (Film adaptations of his work vary in quality, though I still think THE MACOMBER AFFAIR, despite its manipulated ending, is the closest to his original.)

 Posted:   Nov 23, 2015 - 8:55 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

How much does a Hemingway?

 Posted:   Nov 23, 2015 - 10:31 AM   
 By:   manderley   (Member)

How much does a Hemingway? Ezra Pound, perhaps?

 Posted:   Nov 23, 2015 - 4:19 PM   
 By:   Christopher Kinsinger   (Member)

Exactly what IS Eau D'Ernest?
Rhino piss?

 Posted:   Nov 23, 2015 - 6:55 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

How much does a Hemingway? Ezra Pound, perhaps?

only one Ezra Pound? I'm pretty hungry, so I'll take two, please.

 Posted:   Nov 24, 2015 - 2:50 PM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

I pretty much only think of Hemingway now as an unforgivable drunk, who in the end left an awful mess for others to clean up. But, his family had a history of such things, so maybe there was some mental defect. Anyway, a sad figure now.

 Posted:   Nov 24, 2015 - 3:45 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Hem's good to read when you're young, along with other authors like Karl Marx and Ayn Rand.

Raymond Chandler was influenced by him, but Philip Marlowe mocks him in "Farewell My Lovely." He calls a menacing bad cop who mimics him "Hemingway." You know how henchmen get off on mocking their victims. Marlowe finally explains the nickname.
“Who is this Hemingway person at all?”
“A guy that keeps saying the same thing over and over until you begin to believe it must be good.”

Some entertaining parody/pastiches, usually just a paragraph, in the Bad Hemingway Contest, collected in the "Best Of Bad Hemingway" Volumes 1+2.

Without Hemingway, it's hard to imagine how Richard Brautigan would have turned out.

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