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 Posted:   Nov 15, 2005 - 2:13 PM   
 By:   Sehnsuchtshafen   (Member)

I've done a bit of research. Is this list complete or are other titles missing?


Adventures Of Mark Twain, The - Max Steiner & Erich Wolfgang Korngold
RCA Victor Red Seal 09026 62660 2
Adventures Of Mark Twain, The
Prince And The Pauper, The



Charles Chaplin - Film Music
RCA Victor Red Seal 09026 68271 2
Gold Rush, The
Kid, The
Circus, The
Modern Times
City Lights



Four Alice Comedies - Paul Dessau
BMG Classics/RCA Victor Red Seal 09026 68144 2
Alice In The Wooly West
Alice The Fire Fighter
Magic Clock, The
Alice's Monkey Business
Alice Helps The Romance



High Noon - Dimitri Tiomkin
BMG Classics/RCA Victor Red Seal 09026 62658 2
High Noon
Cyrano De Bergerac
Alamo, The
55 Days At Peking



Film Noir
BMG/RCA Victor Red Seal 09026 68145 2
The Maltese Falcon - Adolph Deutsch (1941)
All Through The Night - Adolph Deutsch (1942)
The Verdict - Frederick Hollander (1946)
Dark Passage - Franz Waxman (1947)
White Heat - Max Steiner (1949)



In Sturm und Eis: Music For Salon Orchestra For Arnold Franck’s Im Kampf Mit Dem Berg - Paul Hindemith
BMG Classics/RCA Victor Red Seal 09026 68147 2
Im Kampf Mit Dem Berge - 1. Teil: In Sturm Und Eis - Eine Alpensymphonie In Bildern


Ivan The Terrible [Ivan Groznyj] - Sergei Prokofiev
BMG Classics/RCA Victor Red Seal 09026 61954 2


Lubitsch Touch, The - Music For Silent Movies
BMG Classics/RCA Victor Red Seal 09026-62656-2
Puppe, Die - Karl-Ernst Sasse
Die Austernprinzessin - Karl-Ernst Sasse



Nosferatu - A Symphony of Horror by Hans Erdmann
RCA Red Seal 09026-68143-2


Panamericana - Traumstraße Der Welt - Winfried Zillig
RCA Victor Red Seal RCA 09026 62659 2
2-CD-Set


Reel By Reel: 100 Years Of Film Music - Highlights
RCA Victor Red Seal RCA 68285-2
High And The Mighty, The [4:49 min. suite available only on this highlights CD; tracks: Prelude and Plane in Flight, Safe Landing]
Night Moods [14:30 min. suite available only on this highlights CD; tracks: Blind Pursuit, Whispering Shadows, Delirium, Panic]
Ivan Groznyj I
Panamericana - Traumstraße Der Welt
55 Days At Peking [7:00 min. suite available only on this highlights CD; tracks: Main Title, English/Russian Waltz]
Austernprinzessin, Die
Cyrano De Bergerac
Nosferatu, Eine Symphonie Des Grauens
Prince And The Pauper, The
Alamo, The



Sayonara - Orchestral Suites Film Music By Franz Waxman
RCA Victor Red Seal 09026 62657 2
Taras Bulba
Place In The Sun, A
Hemingway's Adventures Of A Young Man
Sayonara



Seven Stars' Symphony, The - Charles Koechlin
BMG Classics/RCA Victor Red Seal 09026 68146 2
The Seven Stars' Symphony
4 Interludes
L'andalouse dans Barcelone

[no soundtracks]


Metropolis - Gottfried Huppertz
09026 68272 2
[apparently, this title has not been released, even it's been announced with complete art work]


Side note: In the liner notes of "Reel by Reel" the forthcoming premiere rerecording of Korngold's adaptation of Mendelsohn's "A Midsummer Night's Dream" is mentioned. As far as I know it was not released in the BMG/RCA series. CPO did it later (maybe the producers changed the company in a wise move).



 
 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2005 - 2:29 PM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

No wonder I couldn't find Metropolis!

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2005 - 2:32 PM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

I've just realised your missing this one:-

Nosferatu-A Symphony of Horror by Hans Erdmann
(RCA Red Seal 09026-68143-2)

 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2005 - 2:41 PM   
 By:   Sehnsuchtshafen   (Member)

I've just realised your missing this one:-

Nosferatu-A Symphony of Horror by Hans Erdmann
(RCA Red Seal 09026-68143-2)



Yes, thanks. I've just added it to the list.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2005 - 4:12 PM   
 By:   bedhead   (Member)

I spent countless hours trying to get a copy of the first CD (ADVENTURES OF MARK TWAIN/PRINCE AND THE PAUPER) eight years ago. I was a "Korngold completist" then, scouring record stores here in Seattle, irritating dozens of disinterested clerks trying to special order it. I finally learned that this disc never was released in the states, sending me into the computer age. My first internet searches involved trying to locate obscure internet record marts in Europe that still had this title on their sites, but sadly sold out. Years later when it rarely popped up on ebay I would be outbid for it, in the last 10 seconds of the auction, of course. Oh well! It wasn't meant to be in my collection. For now, I have to settle for the Previn version of this one. Lackluster though it is, it IS Korngold.
Steiner was my #2 man to collect after Korngold. When John and Bill released MARK TWAIN I was totally psyched. I had the Steiner Library issue that was archival at best. Digitally re-recorded and faithfully restored. Wow! I thank them every week for their efforts.
Do I need that first disc now? Not really. Do I want it? OH, YEAH!
I was able to acquire the HIGH NOON and the FILM NOIR discs in 2003 of ebay. A little more than I wanted to spend, but I have them.

 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2005 - 4:23 PM   
 By:   Sehnsuchtshafen   (Member)

I've heard at the time of the series release in the 90s that some of them have been issued as a box set. But I've never seen it. Has anyone seen it?

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2005 - 6:20 PM   
 By:   Andy   (Member)

I spent countless hours trying to get a copy of the first CD (ADVENTURES OF MARK TWAIN/PRINCE AND THE PAUPER) eight years ago. I was a "Korngold completist" then, scouring record stores here in Seattle, irritating dozens of disinterested clerks trying to special order it. I finally learned that this disc never was released in the states, sending me into the computer age. My first internet searches involved trying to locate obscure internet record marts in Europe that still had this title on their sites, but sadly sold out. Years later when it rarely popped up on ebay I would be outbid for it, in the last 10 seconds of the auction, of course. Oh well! It wasn't meant to be in my collection. For now, I have to settle for the Previn version of this one. Lackluster though it is, it IS Korngold.
Steiner was my #2 man to collect after Korngold. When John and Bill released MARK TWAIN I was totally psyched. I had the Steiner Library issue that was archival at best. Digitally re-recorded and faithfully restored. Wow! I thank them every week for their efforts.
Do I need that first disc now? Not really. Do I want it? OH, YEAH!
I was able to acquire the HIGH NOON and the FILM NOIR discs in 2003 of ebay. A little more than I wanted to spend, but I have them.

what a Previn version ? i do not know this version frown

but for the above mention album, it is not a fine interpretation of korngolds work, better get the stromberg/morgan version of "twain"

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2005 - 8:28 PM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)


what a Previn version ? i do not know this version frown


In 2003 or so, Previn conducted a bunch of Korngold music. It's on the Duetche Grammaphone label -- in fact it was quite a big deal back then, in both film music and classical circles (my local classical station plays from it all the time).
It's not all that good though. The Gerhardt recordings are all much better.


-Joshua

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2005 - 4:18 PM   
 By:   Andy   (Member)

thanks, have too google around a bit

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2005 - 8:48 PM   
 By:   James MacMillan   (Member)

Incidentally, Chris1770, I believe the piece titled "Night Moods" (which is a sort of montage of various Waxman themes) on the REEL BY REEL disc was conducted by Elmer Bernstein.

- JMM

 
 Posted:   Nov 17, 2005 - 6:06 AM   
 By:   Sehnsuchtshafen   (Member)

Incidentally, Chris1770, I believe the piece titled "Night Moods" (which is a sort of montage of various Waxman themes) on the REEL BY REEL disc was conducted by Elmer Bernstein.

- JMM



Elmer Bernstein conducted the whole Waxman album. I've 'ebaid' Reel by Reel two days ago and I am eagerly awaiting it now. Night Moods and The High And The Mighty are the only parts on this compilation album not to be found anywhere else in the series.

Metropolis by Huppertz is actually a live recording performed by The Brandenburg Philharmonic Orchestra, Berndt Heller being the conductor. I've read somewhere that legal problems caused its non-release.

Most of the 13 albums still can be found on the European internet market (try amazon.de, ebay.de, ebay.co.uk, ebay.fr etc.) for reasonable prices. They are worth getting imo. The booklets contain indepth liner notes in English as well with many b/w illustrations.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 17, 2005 - 1:19 PM   
 By:   James MacMillan   (Member)




Elmer Bernstein conducted the whole Waxman album. I've 'ebaid' Reel by Reel two days ago and I am eagerly awaiting it now. Night Moods and The High And The Mighty are the only parts on this compilation album not to be found anywhere else in the series.

Metropolis by Huppertz is actually a live recording performed by The Brandenburg Philharmonic Orchestra, Berndt Heller being the conductor. I've read somewhere that legal problems caused its non-release.

Most of the 13 albums still can be found on the European internet market (try amazon.de, ebay.de, ebay.co.uk, ebay.fr etc.) for reasonable prices. They are worth getting imo. The booklets contain indepth liner notes in English as well with many b/w illustrations.



Chris, let me know when you get it. Seems to me that the "Night Moods" piece is something concocted by the late Chris Palmer. I recognise a bit of LOST COMMAND in there but the other Waxman scores that are used I find it hard to identify.
The notes don't tell us; in fact there's no mention of EB as conductor either.

- James.

 
 Posted:   Nov 21, 2005 - 9:16 AM   
 By:   Sehnsuchtshafen   (Member)

I'd like to continue the discussion from the Antheil thread (http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.asp?threadID=31047&forumID=1) about this series here:

MMM wrote
I don't know the particulars of these releases and how they relate to BMG/RCA, but I do know something about the corporate structure of BMG and RCA, and the producers of the series might have had NOTHING to do with what the "suits" did or didn't want to promote.

A lot of times projects are given the green light for reasons other than "sales and distribution" pertaining to soundtrack CD sales. This might have been a project that somebody involved with BMG or RCA wanted to do, but other people involved did not want to do.

Or, knowing the turnover at record companies, it's always possible that the people who green-lighted these projects weren't around to be "cheerleaders" by the time the projects came to fruition. All speculation on my part, but this stuff goes on all the time. Not just in film music, but in all kinds of music, in the movie industry, and anywhere the Arts are.

For all we know, the money that wasn't spent promoting these particular releases might have instead been spent on something else that you might or might not also have enjoyed.



I think one major problem the series had, was its little appeal to music interested customers (talking of a niche's niche here), especially it's almost inexisting appeal to non European customers, i.e. customers in the US. I've seen those CDs sitting in the stores for years. The booklets stayed untouched, as no one cared to give it a proper listening.

How many people know Paul Dessau or Sasse? The old DEFA (GDR film studio) gang didn't do a favour to themself (and us) when chosing such rather unessential works. Maybe there was politics behind (you have to take some east germans, too).

In a way it was a waste of money and excellent creative ressources. At least though, we have those albums.

Maybe, one suit will green light a proper reissue, complete with Metropolis, and whatever hasn't been released then.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 21, 2005 - 9:49 AM   
 By:   MMM   (Member)

"How many people know Paul Dessau or Sasse?"

Anybody out there have the Dessau release, and what's it like? I'm only familiar with his work from his contributions to the Universal horror films of the '40s.

 
 Posted:   Nov 21, 2005 - 10:11 AM   
 By:   Sehnsuchtshafen   (Member)

Anybody out there have the Dessau release, and what's it like? I'm only familiar with his work from his contributions to the Universal horror films of the '40s.

I'm looking for it myself. Dessau composed this music in the mid 1920s for some German animated shorts. I listened to some extracts long ago, I hadn't the impression of a must have back then. It occurs to me, Dessau was an important pioneer of film music.

BTW, Sasse's are rescorings for two Lubitsch classics (both released in 1919). Sasse composed it in the late 1970s for the DEFA. Lots of quoting and busy music, overall music for a small orchestra.

 
 Posted:   Nov 22, 2005 - 12:02 PM   
 By:   Sehnsuchtshafen   (Member)

I'm listening to PANAMERICANA by Winfried Zillig (arrived today) and I'm not through with it, almost two hours of music.

Symphonic music, with extra choral stuff. Overall impressive. Considering it was written for a documentary in the late 50s I am even more impressed. Some very modern touches, lots of brass, often repetive structures, you find herrmannesque moments in Bryce Canyon, many highlights, Yellowstone Park or Feast of our Lady of Guadelupe - to name just these two.

I've never seen the film and I'm not familiar with Zillig (one of Schönberg's pupil). He scored only two motion pictures. The booklet (in Englisch, German and French, as usual) is very informative.

I've got the impression it's one of the producer's most ambitious endeavours, it's on two discs. Sometimes I wish the performance were more energetic, can't compare it with the original though.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 22, 2005 - 1:31 PM   
 By:   bedhead   (Member)

I'm listening to PANAMERICANA by Winfried Zillig (arrived today) and I'm not through with it, almost two hours of music.

Symphonic music, with extra choral stuff. Overall impressive. Considering it was written for a documentary in the late 50s I am even more impressed. Some very modern touches, lots of brass, often repetive structures, you find herrmannesque moments in Bryce Canyon, many highlights, Yellowstone Park or Feast of our Lady of Guadelupe - to name just these two.

I've never seen the film and I'm not familiar with Zillig (on of Schönberg's pupil). He scored only two motion pictures. The booklet (in Englisch, German and French, as usual) is very informative.

I've got the impression it's one of the producer's most ambitious endeavours, it's on two discs. Sometimes I wish the performance were more energetic, can't compare it with the original though.


Where'd you find this, if I might ask?

 
 Posted:   Nov 22, 2005 - 1:33 PM   
 By:   Sehnsuchtshafen   (Member)



Where'd you find this, if I might ask?



ebay.co.uk, last week for about 10£


http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000025FNV/qid%3D1132674511/302-8361807-1511210

 
 Posted:   Nov 24, 2005 - 7:34 AM   
 By:   Sehnsuchtshafen   (Member)

Chris, let me know when you get it. Seems to me that the "Night Moods" piece is something concocted by the late Chris Palmer. I recognise a bit of LOST COMMAND in there but the other Waxman scores that are used I find it hard to identify.
The notes don't tell us; in fact there's no mention of EB as conductor either.

- James.


I've just received it. The Waxman suite is fabulous, indeed. I'm not sure, but it could also contain music from John Garfield's last movie HE RAN ALL THE WAY - I remember the music being exceptionally exciting (now, try to top this); don't know LOST COMMAND. The liner notes aren't helpful either.

Odd, in those notes a forthcoming rerecording of Mendelssohn's A MIDSUMMER NIGHT'S DREAM, adaptated by Korngold is announced. I don't think this happened after all. I'm only aware of the CPO release, done a couple of years ago (I believe the original soundtrack is available as well). Of course, METROPOLIS is nowhere mentioned. The cover art of the sampler FILM NOIRE seen in the booklet is (alas) different from the definitive one.


Oh, there's more! As I'm listening, Tiomkin's Main Title of 55 DAYS IN PEKING is on it (but not included in the HIGH NOON compilation, that one being filled already with 78 min.). As a matter of fact, the whole Peking suite is exclusive, so far about 27 min. What a surprise! I wonder if there's more exclusive material, no there isn't.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 24, 2005 - 7:46 AM   
 By:   Andy   (Member)

the 55 day version is unfortunately very bad, the main problem is the tempi, all of tiomkins genius get lost in this interpretation, perhaps we get some day a new version as good as "navarone" or a rerelease of the old cd, which i missed frown

 
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