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 Posted:   Mar 14, 2020 - 2:03 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

I rated Hour of the Wolf a 5/10 when I first watched it three years ago. Having seen it again today I would raise that rating to a 7/10, which to one FSMer would be on a par with A View to a Kill. This is why I have reservations about numbered rating systems.

Hour of the Wolf's biggest flaw is the Liv Ullmann character. Not so much her performance, which is serviceable, but the reason that character is even in the film at all. If there's some big point to what Bergman was trying to say, it's lost on me.

Still, there are some fine visuals, performances--Max von Sydow is superb and the island residents are wonderfully mad, particularly Gertrude Fridh.

Lars Johan Werle, who composed the score, provides outstanding music in the scene in which von Sydow is fishing and has a violent encounter with a boy. The scene is over lit like the dream sequence in Bergman's earlier film, Wild Strawberries.

Werle's music really "ratchets up the tension" and comes with my highest recommendation.

Oh, and I will always carry a torch for Ingrid Thulin.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 12, 2020 - 4:52 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

If anything can bring Jim back to these pages I hope it’s the news that I’ve just taken delivery of Ingmar Bergman’s Cinema. In the spirit of Homer buying Marge a bowling ball with his own name already inscribed on it, it has arrived on Lady TG’s birthday smile

I’ve seen exactly three of the films in this set, so one-thirteenth of them, and I’m looking forward to becoming acquainted with the rest. If anyone’s interested it was exactly one week between ordering it from Amazon in the US and arriving here by DHL, with the price already including customs and shipping. Around £185 in total. Stunning!

 
 Posted:   Aug 20, 2020 - 6:23 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Passion of Anna (1969) 9/10 (IIRC, the same rating from before)

Beautifully filmed on desolate Fårö Island. Andreas Winkelman (Max Von Sydow) is an isolated loser with a failed marriage and jail time in his past. Andreas lives in a shabby-but-ideal house. The property outside consists of drab, brown mud, and rock-stacked fences and walls--a prison of Andreas’ own creation.

Bibi Andersson is great as Eva Vergérus, a drunken, flirty, and sadly pathetic, self-loathing woman. Eva considers herself a boring lover and exists only to appease--an FSM dreamgirl. She knows this, but like the other characters, is trapped amid her misery--welcome to Bergman's World, baby.

Bibi is especially good in her playful, tipsy scene at the dinner gathering, and she’s mesmerizing in her love scene with Von Sydow. Andersson, despite her natural beauty, doesn't seem to mind that her complexion is less than "movie perfect"; it's a typically fearless and admirable trait of hers as an actor.

Elis Vergérus (Erland Josephson), Eva’s husband, is indifferent to everything, especially his high-paying career as an architect. His disinterest extends to his photography, which categorizes seemingly every conceivable subject. He refers to collecting as a pointless act. The viewer "knows" Elis is emotionally removed from everything, if only because of his Banacek-style haircut and hip turtleneck.

Liv Ullmann is excellent playing a physically, emotionally, and mentally-wrecked Anna, who can come apart at the seams even faster than Eva.

Characters frequently drink and smoke. Elis has a well-stocked bar with seemingly every type of booze, yet he and Andreas only drink whiskey; it’s like the rest of the bar is merely for show, like Elis' god-damned photo collection.

Passion of Anna is more interesting for how the characters flounder through their existence rather than any narrative or plot considerations. Bergman even has his actors “step out” and discuss their characters in brief interludes that serve as act breaks. In these, Von Sydow, Andersson, Ullmann, and Josephson never mention plot, only their views on the character they’re portraying.

Apart from the actor interludes, Passion of Anna's most interesting scene is a black & white flashback that could easily have been taken from Bergman’s previous film, Shame (1968).

 
 Posted:   Sep 13, 2020 - 5:06 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Bergman Unpublished: Style

There are several clips by Marie Nyreröd presumably taken from the longer cut of her Bergman Island documentary, which is sadly not the one on the Criterion box.

This video is not about Bergman's cinematic style, but rather his style of clothing and how it changed--or hadn't--over the years. Most FSMers would dress like Bergman, had it not been for the invention of Star Wars t-shirts and jeans.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 13, 2020 - 11:07 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

I’ve watched a good few of these since but stopped in July as work became too busy to watch one before firing up the laptop, and it’s a much anticipated treat for when stuff settles down again. I haven’t troubled the pages of FSM with my thoughts about them, because time is short and you are hot. That isn’t the real reason, which doesn’t matter.

Some have been stunning, others wonderful, all of them interesting. I’m reading his autobiography The Magic Lantern, which is unlike any that I remember in its unabashed self-portrait of a boy and a man who could resist everything but temptation. He doesn’t seek forgiveness and he doesn’t duck responsibility, but he does offer insight into his motives in a way that you can relate to your own life to a degree - just as with his films. Every relationship he describes carries the seed of its own failure. Fascinating.

 
 Posted:   Sep 13, 2020 - 11:44 AM   
 By:   dogplant   (Member)

I’m reading his autobiography The Magic Lantern, which is unlike any that I remember... Fascinating.

One of the most powerful books ever written about filmmaking. He wrote a couple more – a novel called "Sunday's Children" and another autobiographical piece, "Images," the latter pretty interesting – but "Magic Lantern," and maybe Andrei Tarkovsky's "Sculpting in Time" are perhaps the most personal and moving books I've encountered about filmmaking (John Boorman's autobiographies are pretty good, too, for laying himself bare; though I've not read John's most recent "Conclusions"). After you finish "Magic Lantern," TG, you should check out "Fanny and Alexander," if you haven't seen it already. You'll find many autobiographical flourishes that haunted him his whole life. The four-part (312 minute) TV version is a masterpiece.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 13, 2020 - 1:37 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Bergman is always interesting to listen to. I also like the footage of his Fårö interviews. But I disagree vehemently with him on several issues, especially in regards to Antonioni.

 
 Posted:   Sep 13, 2020 - 3:28 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

The four-part (312 minute) TV version is a masterpiece.

I haven't yet watched Fanny and Alexander. I was supposed to do so during the Christmas holiday last year (it seems rather Christmas-y), but didn't get around to it. It, along with Scenes from a Marriage had me wondering which version to watch first of those films.

 
 Posted:   Sep 14, 2020 - 7:19 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Gertrud Fridh is another of Bergman's (semi) regulars whose performances I enjoy. I first took note of her skewed sensual appeal in Hour of the Wolf. Fridh is similarly warped in The Magician.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 14, 2020 - 7:37 AM   
 By:   Mark   (Member)


Are any of you Bergman fans also fans of Bergman's number one fan, Woody Allen and his most Bergmanesque films like Interiors?

 
 Posted:   Sep 14, 2020 - 7:39 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Are any of you Bergman fans also fans of Bergman's number one fan, Woody Allen and his most Bergmanesque films like Interiors?

I am, and probably no one else.

99.9% of this board's discussion of INTERIORS can be found in this thread about another 1978 film, AN UNMARRIED WOMAN:

https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=84565

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 14, 2020 - 8:19 AM   
 By:   Mark   (Member)

Are any of you Bergman fans also fans of Bergman's number one fan, Woody Allen and his most Bergmanesque films like Interiors?

I am, and probably no one else.

99.9% of this board's discussion of INTERIORS can be found in this thread about another 1978 film, AN UNMARRIED WOMAN:

https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=84565


Thanks Jim. I'm a big fan of both also, and have recently started rewatching Woody's films. It is interesting to discover how one's opinions of films change. Didn't like Zelig as much as before but loved Broadway Danny Rose and Husbands and Wives so much I would now put them on the top tier of his films. But surprisingly I didn't get on with Interiors last time so am curious to how I will feel about it when I see it again.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 14, 2020 - 8:37 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Are any of you Bergman fans also fans of Bergman's number one fan, Woody Allen and his most Bergmanesque films like Interiors?

God, no. I don't care for Allen at all. Bergman himself is also hit and miss to me. I like his more stylish affairs, like WILD STRAWBERRIES or THE SEVENTH SEAL. But not too thrilled with the theatrical, stilted stuff like PERSONA.

 
 Posted:   Sep 14, 2020 - 1:10 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

While I've found something to like in every Bergman film I've seen, it's his 1950s films I enjoy most.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 14, 2020 - 4:38 PM   
 By:   Moonlit   (Member)

Wild Strawberries, then Cries and Whispers are his best IMO. However, difficult to go wrong with Persona. Brilliant how it's confusing as to who is who.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 14, 2020 - 5:41 PM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

While I've found something to like in every Bergman film I've seen, it's his 1950s films I enjoy most.

Of my favorite Bergman, the earliest one is SAWDUST & TINSEL (though SUMMER WITH MONIKA is very notable as well). Love the 1955 DREAMS, too.

 
 Posted:   Sep 15, 2020 - 4:14 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

While I've found something to like in every Bergman film I've seen, it's his 1950s films I enjoy most.

Of my favorite Bergman, the earliest one is SAWDUST & TINSEL (though SUMMER WITH MONIKA is very notable as well). Love the 1955 DREAMS, too.


Agreed on Monika; S&T has some superb moments. Summer Interlude is among my newfound favorites, and Smiles of a Summer Night is a delightful romp.

 
 Posted:   Sep 15, 2020 - 7:53 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Gunnar Björnstrand is my Bergman actor of choice. He boasts a range of characters and excellent performances that puts most actors' filmographies to shame.

I'd start an "In Appreciation" thread for Björnstrand, but it would just feature me droning on alone about his brilliance.

 
 Posted:   Oct 9, 2020 - 7:01 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Cries and Whispers (1972) 7/10

I appreciate the performances--everyone does a great job, especially Harriet Andersson--more than I do the film itself, and while there are some truly powerful scenes, at times it goes over the top, like Liv Ullmann's reaction to Harriet and Ingrid Thulin in the (in)famous scene she has.

There's also something about this film that leaves me cold; I'm watching Autumn Sonata next, and I hope whatever it was about Cries and Whispers doesn't extend to "Sonata."

 
 Posted:   Oct 9, 2020 - 1:35 PM   
 By:   Viscount Bark   (Member)

Cries and Whispers (1972) 7/10

I appreciate the performances--everyone does a great job, especially Harriet Andersson--more than I do the film itself, and while there are some truly powerful scenes, at times it goes over the top, like Liv Ullmann's reaction to Harriet and Ingrid Thulin in the (in)famous scene she has.

There's also something about this film that leaves me cold; I'm watching Autumn Sonata next, and I hope whatever it was about Cries and Whispers doesn't extend to "Sonata."


What did you think of Bergman's use of color in C&W (or Whispers and Cries, as Bergman authority John Simon thought should be the title's proper translation)?

 
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