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Thor was kind enough to let Thomas and I help out with the questions. I really enjoyed the Christmas songs topic. Did Michael Scorefanget a chance to reply to the question? Howard L. referenced “Gleasonian Orchestral Melancholia” again! I did not have a chance to answer the favorite Christmas song question, so here it goes: all time favorite song is either "A Holly Jolly Christmas" by Burl Ives or "Jingle Bell Rock" by Bobby Helms. Both have some fantastic vocals, some great music, and, unlike some holiday guests, neither overstays its welcome. My favorite religious themed song is "O Holy Night". I can't think of a specific performance that I love, but a couple great versions seem to play regularly on the radio this time of the year. Lastly, my favorite guilty pleasure song is "Do They Know Its Christmas" by Band-Aid. Say what you will about the lyrics, which are exceptionally awful and condescending, but as a huge fan of '80s pop music, it has some fantastic performers who make it listenable. If we had had another session I would have asked about everyone's least favorite Christmas song. For me, that title goes to that Alvin and the Chipmunks Christmas song that always seems to play on heavy rotation while shopping during the holidays, and is pretty much fingernails on a chalkboard for me.    Posted:   Dec 5, 2020 - 7:18 AM     By:   Jim Phelps   (Member) Apologies for not getting to you, but I didn’t forget you were owed a turn, Michael! We barely got Big Jim Wilson in there! The 1950s and early ‘60s (“Pfft! What’s the diff?!?” as we say) had loads of good Christmas tunes. Simon Le Bon had one of his better vocals in “Do They Know it’s Christmas?” I would offer up “White Christmas” by the Drifters, despite its exposure in Home Alone, but not over the Gleason Christmas album I rambled on and on about last night.    Posted:   Dec 5, 2020 - 7:21 AM     By:   OnyaBirri   (Member) I forgot to mention June Christy's "This Time of Year," the second most depressing Christmas album ever, after Jackie Gleason's!    Posted:   Dec 5, 2020 - 7:29 AM     By:   Jim Phelps   (Member) I forgot to mention June Christy's "This Time of Year," the second most depressing Christmas album ever, after Jackie Gleason's! I was going to mention it at the Zoom! Found the Mancini Christmas album (EP?) Thomas mentioned. It sounds rather perfunctory, though pleasant enough...love the Mancini chorus.    Posted:   Dec 5, 2020 - 10:15 AM     By:   Howard L   (Member) A most excellent Cheers Zoom! Thor was kind enough to let Thomas and I help out with the questions. I really enjoyed the Christmas songs topic. Did Michael Scorefan get a chance to reply to the question? Howard L. referenced “Gleasonian Orchestral Melancholia” again! And who egged me on, Moriarty?    Posted:   Dec 5, 2020 - 10:18 AM     By:   Jim Phelps   (Member) And who egged me on, Moriarty? Guilty! But why do your Gleason thread references feel like a shiv between the ribs?    Posted:   Dec 5, 2020 - 10:48 AM     By:   OnyaBirri   (Member) Thor, you need to post the two tunes you mentioned that you said had a similar chord progression.    Posted:   Dec 5, 2020 - 10:48 AM     By:   Thomas   (Member) I enjoyed it last night too, was good fun. I drank quite a lot of beers! I liked when Onya brought up the 70s TV Themes, and we talked about The Big Match and Big Jim played it! I also enjoyed Thor explaining that familiar chord progression to Alan and then decided to start demonstrating it by humming! Yeah Jim the Mancini album isn't exactly ground-breaking, but I always thought it was a nice listen. It is an album, there's 11 tracks on it, some of which are a medley. I noticed earlier on a Christmas compilation CD I have, there's a track by Jackie Gleason and Jack Marshall.    Posted:   Dec 5, 2020 - 10:52 AM     By:   OnyaBirri   (Member) I noticed earlier on a Christmas compilation CD I have, there's a track by Jackie Gleason and Jack Marshall. Is that one of the Capitol Ultra Lounge Christmas collections?    Posted:   Dec 5, 2020 - 10:57 AM     By:   Thomas   (Member) I noticed earlier on a Christmas compilation CD I have, there's a track by Jackie Gleason and Jack Marshall. Is that one of the Capitol Ultra Lounge Christmas collections? It's a compilation from 2003 called Cardigans At Christmas, but I imagine it features a lot of the same stuff.    Posted:   Dec 5, 2020 - 11:37 AM     By:   Howard L   (Member) And who egged me on, Moriarty? Guilty! But why do your Gleason thread references feel like a shiv between the ribs? Get outta town, I revere the guy and his musical taste! Who brought up Gigot?!    Posted:   Dec 5, 2020 - 2:06 PM     By:   First Breath   (Member) To set you in the mood, this is how my background will look tonight: http://celluloidtunes.no/_oldsite/non-website/jul.JPG And this is my haul in terms of beverages: http://celluloidtunes.no/_oldsite/non-website/jul2.JPG (for some reason, embed didn't work, so you'll have to click the links). Tasted the Juicy Ale yesterday. Really good.    Posted:   Dec 6, 2020 - 4:05 AM     By:   Graham Watt   (Member) Thor, you need to post the two tunes you mentioned that you said had a similar chord progression. Onya, at the risk of jumping in and misleading you, I think Thor was speaking about a particularly Christmassy/ religioso piece from BEN-HUR (either "Star of Bethlehem" or "The Adoration of the Magi", or both) plus something from HOME ALONE. I realise, Onya, that both films and their scores are things that you might avoid like the plague, so we really need Thor here to be very specific. Are you there, Thor?    Posted:   Dec 6, 2020 - 11:51 AM     By:   Thor   (Member) Yes, that's it, Graham. I don't know if those particular psalm-like chord progressions have a name, but I faintly remember talking to a musicologist years ago that could name it. I can't remember what it was, though.    Posted:   Dec 6, 2020 - 11:58 AM     By:   OnyaBirri   (Member) Yes, that's it, Graham. I don't know if those particular psalm-like chord progressions have a name, but I faintly remember talking to a musicologist years ago that could name it. I can't remember what it was, though. Thor, can you please post YouTube links to the tracks in question, and I will compare the chord structures.    Posted:   Dec 6, 2020 - 12:21 PM     By:   Thor   (Member) Sure. Here's "Adoration of the Magi" from BEN HUR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIjRKnMfPB4&ab_channel=GustyPL I believe I also hummed "Star of Bethlehem" from HOME ALONE in the Zoom chat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7y3lCfBk8w&ab_channel=JohnWilliams-Topic I guess I can throw in "Angela's Prayer" from ANGELA'S ASHES too (from 0:35 onwards): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-6BKz6MNzU&ab_channel=OST%26Covers%26so This style of music is so very NOT you, Onya, but it floors me every time. Would be great to have a name to use.    Posted:   Dec 6, 2020 - 12:27 PM     By:   OnyaBirri   (Member) This style of music is so very NOT you, Onya, but it floors me every time. Would be great to have a name to use. Regardless, I should be able to point out harmonic similarities if I hear them. Give me a few.    Posted:   Dec 6, 2020 - 12:43 PM     By:   OnyaBirri   (Member) Sure. Here's "Adoration of the Magi" from BEN HUR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIjRKnMfPB4&ab_channel=GustyPL I believe I also hummed "Star of Bethlehem" from HOME ALONE in the Zoom chat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7y3lCfBk8w&ab_channel=JohnWilliams-Topic I guess I can throw in "Angela's Prayer" from ANGELA'S ASHES too (from 0:35 onwards): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-6BKz6MNzU&ab_channel=OST%26Covers%26so This style of music is so very NOT you, Onya, but it floors me every time. Would be great to have a name to use. Those are all very beautiful. At first blush, I don't hear a lot of harmonic similarity between the three. What I do hear is the chord changing with each beat, more or less, and the melody alternating between quarter notes on the beat, mixed with pairs of eighth notes on the beat. Hope that is helpful.    Posted:   Dec 6, 2020 - 1:08 PM     By:   Thor   (Member) Thanks! That's a start. It's obviously also something with the major/minor changes. I know there's some theory on this, but I'm not able to find it online (other than Stravinsky's "Psalms chord" from his Symphony of Psalms, and it's certainly not that!). An even more traditional example is obviously Rozsa's "Prayer of Our Lord" from KING OF KINGS. Listen to the chord change at 1:10: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2huSns0Wt04&ab_channel=Mikl%C3%B3sR%C3%B3zsa-Topic    Posted:   Dec 6, 2020 - 1:15 PM     By:   OnyaBirri   (Member) Thanks! That's a start. It's obviously also something with the major/minor changes. I know there's some theory on this, but I'm not able to find it online (other than Stravinsky's "Psalms chord" from his Symphony of Psalms, and it's certainly not that!). There are certainly sustained chords during those quarter notes. There is a mix of major and minor also, but the major and minor chords are not used uniformly between the three examples. I would say that they share more in common in terms of mood and arrangement than with the notes themselves. But I can see why you would place them in a similar category. I would do the same.     Non-Film Score Discussion: Cheers!    << < 86 87 88 89 90  > >>  Go to page:  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112   First Post    General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112

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