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 Posted:   Feb 23, 2020 - 10:20 PM   
 By:   Xebec   (Member)

Miniguns are being used to shoot at people and they have almost no effect. They seemingly either can't be aimed properly or can hit their target but don't have stopping power or only hit with one or two bullets. It's in Charlie's Angels 2019, The Purge Anarchy and other modern shite films. Just stop bringing them out and doing nothing with them.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 25, 2020 - 2:30 AM   
 By:   Mark   (Member)

....... The ending is given away.

Just read that in China the film The Sixth Sense was given the title 'He is a Ghost!'. Talk about giving away the ending. I love the apostrophe at the end of the title too.

 
 Posted:   Feb 27, 2020 - 5:56 PM   
 By:   madmovyman   (Member)

... a character shoves all the items off their desk in anger or frustration.
In my head, I always shout, "who's gonna clean that up, asshole?"

 
 Posted:   Mar 1, 2020 - 11:37 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

Whenever they want a character to overhear a crucial report on the TV, its always exactly as they turn on the tv or the moment they come out the shower or the moment they walk into a bar....

 
 Posted:   Mar 2, 2020 - 4:57 AM   
 By:   jackfu   (Member)

Good guys fleeing bad guys thru airport terminals, running full speed, going the wrong way thru turnstiles, down onto the tarmac, etc., all willy nilly and no sign of security anywhere? Most airports thru which I go, you look back over your shoulder at Security, and you get looks like they're gonna come slam you against a wall and detain you.

 
 Posted:   Mar 2, 2020 - 6:52 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Whenever they want a character to overhear a crucial report on the TV, its always exactly as they turn on the tv or the moment they come out the shower or the moment they walk into a bar....

Likewise when ever they don't want a character to hear a crucial report he walks away from the television or the phone rings just when important information for the story is revealed, leaving the character in the dark.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 2, 2020 - 9:44 AM   
 By:   Xebec   (Member)

This used to happen in 1970s stuff a lot, like Columbo: person is interrogated by cop or private detective but has to leave, they leave the house but let the investigator stay behind them in their home or office.

 
 Posted:   Mar 2, 2020 - 10:24 AM   
 By:   That Neil Guy   (Member)

I'm just here to be the 1500th reply.

xoxoxo
Neil

 
 Posted:   Mar 2, 2020 - 10:24 AM   
 By:   That Neil Guy   (Member)

And I somehow double posted it, negating the whloe effect.

D'oh!

 
 Posted:   Mar 5, 2020 - 8:48 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

...in a scenario where a group of characters is in immediate mortal peril, the most cowardly/panicky member of the group will selfishly grasp at the one apparent chance for survival -- often pushing aside another character so they'll be first in line for whatever the means of escape is -- only to get fed a heaping dose of comeuppance when they find themselves on the receiving end of an ironic, often gruesome demise? Pretty much an obligatory scene in any disaster movie, or movie where characters are being pursued by a monster or pack of them. Saw this again tonight in 47 Meters Down Uncaged. Another great example is in The Towering Inferno, where Richard Chamberlin runs for the basket harness and starts shoving other party guests out as it starts to descend, only to have an explosion occur underneath him sending him plunging to a fiery death below. Are we supposed to cheer, or something?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 6, 2020 - 2:35 AM   
 By:   Disco Stu   (Member)

...in a scenario where a group of characters is in immediate mortal peril, the most cowardly/panicky member of the group will selfishly grasp at the one apparent chance for survival -- often pushing aside another character so they'll be first in line for whatever the means of escape is -- only to get fed a heaping dose of comeuppance when they find themselves on the receiving end of an ironic, often gruesome demise? Pretty much a obligatory scene in any disaster movie, or movie where characters are being pursued by a monster or pack of them. Saw this again tonight in 47 Meters Down Uncaged. Another great example is in The Towering Inferno, where Richard Chamberlin runs for the basket harness and starts shoving other party guests out as it starts to descend, only to have an explosion occur underneath him sending him plunging to a fiery death below. Are we supposed to cheer, or something?

The cable basket falling in "Towering inferno" and the elevator crash in "Earthquake" are the least "offensive" if at all as both are clearly indicated in the story. In TI it is made very clear that the escape is running against the clock and that casualties are not a possibility but a certainty regardless of their status (both story- and starwise). In "Earthquake" the lethal risks are becoming more evident and obvious the closer the film gets to the crash.

The most prominent "offender", who knows it might even have been the trendsetter, is Burke in "Aliens". At the same time "Aliens" also went straight against expectations with Bishop not being at the landing platform when the reactor is about to go nuclear.

D.S.

 
 Posted:   Mar 6, 2020 - 4:49 AM   
 By:   jackfu   (Member)

...in a scenario where a group of characters is in immediate mortal peril, the most cowardly/panicky member of the group will selfishly grasp at the one apparent chance for survival -- often pushing aside another character so they'll be first in line for whatever the means of escape is -- only to get fed a heaping dose of comeuppance when they find themselves on the receiving end of an ironic, often gruesome demise? Pretty much a obligatory scene in any disaster movie, or movie where characters are being pursued by a monster or pack of them. Saw this again tonight in 47 Meters Down Uncaged. Another great example is in The Towering Inferno, where Richard Chamberlin runs for the basket harness and starts shoving other party guests out as it starts to descend, only to have an explosion occur underneath him sending him plunging to a fiery death below. Are we supposed to cheer, or something?

Agreed, those are pretty much gratuitous. IMO, you're right about the intent you suspect, and that they're also designed to garner sympathy/empathy for the folks that are pushed aside and relief that they were spared the fate of the selfish character, after the fall showed it not to be a dependable means of escape. I can't help but also think that those scenes are more of a crutch for a weak story line. Someone in the process of making these films must realize at some point that it needs something to stir emotions in the audience and they resort to this type of tactic.

 
 Posted:   Mar 6, 2020 - 6:38 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

...in a scenario where a group of characters is in immediate mortal peril, the most cowardly/panicky member of the group will selfishly grasp at the one apparent chance for survival -- often pushing aside another character so they'll be first in line for whatever the means of escape is --

I dunno, if I was facing a horrible death by fire in a high rise building I'd push my fellow FSM'ers out of the way to get to the escape route faster! You'll all can play for the heroics.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 6, 2020 - 7:16 AM   
 By:   Disco Stu   (Member)

...in a scenario where a group of characters is in immediate mortal peril, the most cowardly/panicky member of the group will selfishly grasp at the one apparent chance for survival -- often pushing aside another character so they'll be first in line for whatever the means of escape is -- only to get fed a heaping dose of comeuppance when they find themselves on the receiving end of an ironic, often gruesome demise? Pretty much a obligatory scene in any disaster movie, or movie where characters are being pursued by a monster or pack of them. Saw this again tonight in 47 Meters Down Uncaged. Another great example is in The Towering Inferno, where Richard Chamberlin runs for the basket harness and starts shoving other party guests out as it starts to descend, only to have an explosion occur underneath him sending him plunging to a fiery death below. Are we supposed to cheer, or something?

Agreed, those are pretty much gratuitous. IMO, you're right about the intent you suspect, and that they're also designed to garner sympathy/empathy for the folks that are pushed aside and relief that they were spared the fate of the selfish character, after the fall showed it not to be a dependable means of escape. I can't help but also think that those scenes are more of a crutch for a weak story line. Someone in the process of making these films must realize at some point that it needs something to stir emotions in the audience and they resort to this type of tactic.


" I can't help but also think that those scenes are more of a crutch for a weak story line. Someone in the process of making these films must realize at some point that it needs something to stir emotions in the audience and they resort to this type of tactic."

Possibly but I think it's done as a straight up shock action. Remember, with censorship on films regarding violence or physical harm being the way it was in the times these films were made, those blood splatters on the screen after the crash were pretty intense and brutally horrific or horrifically brutal. I can't help but think that it evoked in the viewers the reaction "Did they really show that!?". Those people were completely innocent and even to this day there is a limit to which we show and accept the violent death of innocent people, which brings me to another thing for this beloved "I hate"-thread:

Somehow children and pregnant womenare mostly let of the hook where it comes to suffering the logical harmful/ deadly effects of a situation in mainstream films.

I remember how many people object to the aliens killing the young boy and pregnant women in the AvP film despite the fact that would absolutely happen if those creatures were to be on earth in real life.
Many people react just as irrational and simplistically to such a scene as Siskel & Ebert did to the treatment of Newt in Aliens.

D.S.

 
 Posted:   Mar 6, 2020 - 7:30 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)


Many people react just as irrational and simplistically to such a scene as Siskel & Ebert did to the treatment of Newt in Aliens.


I remember that vividly! I always thought it was a strange over reaction. I think to some degree ppl are fine when able adults face death and or die. But children, elderly and pets are seen as defenseless and innocent. Its harder to stomach even in a fictional sense. I'm clearly in the fluffy survives camp.

 
 Posted:   Mar 6, 2020 - 8:39 AM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

I remember S&K bagging on An American Tail for being "gloomy" and "too sad for kids", when they don't give kids proper credit for being able to handle quiet moments of introspection and sadness so long as it all ends up happily.

 
 Posted:   Mar 6, 2020 - 9:16 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I remember S&K bagging on An American Tail for being "gloomy" and "too sad for kids", when they don't give kids proper credit for being able to handle quiet moments of introspection and sadness so long as it all ends up happily.

That was a hallmark of Don Bluth. He believed kids could face their fears and overcome them and become stronger individuals in the process.

 
 Posted:   Mar 10, 2020 - 8:21 AM   
 By:   jackfu   (Member)

Someone is driving a vehicle with stick shift along at road speed and the audio of the vehicle has them still upshifting.
Watched The Graduate the other night and they kept doing that. Ben was racing along the interstate to get to Elaine's wedding and he's obviously traveling at high speed, yet he's still upshifting? Sheesh!

 
 Posted:   Mar 10, 2020 - 8:17 PM   
 By:   Jeyl   (Member)

Characters who keep vital information to themselves when there is no reason for it. It's clearly meant to keep the audience in suspense, but having the characters told about it would have made a huge difference!

I think the most ludicrous example of this was in the Firefly episode "The Message". You have this character named Tracey who is being hunted by bad people, and the crew have a plan for helping him out. Problem? They don't tell him what the plan is. All they do is say they're going to land and let the bad guys onto their ship. Tracey thinks they're turning him in and when he confronts the crew about it, they simply tell him to do what he's told. Tracey, understandably in a panic over this, threatens the crew to get them to not allow the baddies onboard. Mal then decides to fatally shoot Tracey before he could hurt anyone and decides to still go along with letting the bad guys in. Turns out they had a plan to get the baddies to leave them alone the whole time and didn't bother to tell Tracey about it for no reason at all. In the end, we're supposed to be sad over how this all turned out, but I'm stuck here thinking "WHY DIDN'T THEY JUST FREAKING TELL HIM THEIR PLAN!?".

 
 Posted:   Mar 10, 2020 - 11:38 PM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

Characters who keep vital information to themselves when there is no reason for it. It's clearly meant to keep the audience in suspense, but having the characters told about it would have made a huge difference! .

This. So often happens when an innocent character is accused of something but says nothing. "Just tell them the truth!" Im screaming at the tv!! Then you just know the irritation of the pointless plot is going to annoy you more than entertain.

 
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