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Mar 11, 2020 - 12:43 PM
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LeHah
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One example.: yesterday I caught a train and was asked for my ticket.... Ticket collector took my ticket, checked it and handed it back. That ticket collector went down the entire train doing this.... Say he had Coronovirus or one of the tickets he touched had it...... Everyday things like this need to be reviewed and changed and bloody quick
Thankfully, the virus in its current form doesn't live very long on surfaces. So you're fine handling mail, objects, items, etc within common sense. Don't let your mailman lick your mail, for instance. And if he does, well then he's weird.
Do I think that this is dangerous? Absolutely. Do I think this is what the media is saying? Absolutely not. Wash your hands more often, folks. If you get stick, stay home. Stock up on shit-tickets, soap, nonperishable goods and this will be done in a week or two.
Virus spreading fast in the US. Faster than here in the UK. We did have more cases - 460 total - but now the US has over 1000. Why is this? Better healthcare service to diagnose it?
Its a couple of things but mainly that Americans as a culture are idiot hypochondriacs and go to the ER for the sniffles, so theres more people getting checked out than there are people staying home and watching daytime TV, you know?
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What I've heard is that it can live in surfaces for up to nine days, and in the air (after a sneeze, for example) for a few hours.
But not everybody who gets it, presents symptoms and may never have an issue.
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It's a strange travel ban really as it excludes the UK when the UK has more cases than most other European countries.
Not strange if you look at it from a political perspective instead of a medical one. (Though this is not the right board to belabor the point.)
Anyway, if Tom Hanks can get it, there is no one safe.
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How about some stories emphasised in the media of people who have had it and got thru it and been ok? That way we might feel slightly less like blowing our brains out.
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Mar 12, 2020 - 2:23 AM
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Thor
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Ive been firmly in the 'Don't panic, nothing to see here' camp and have accused the media of overhyping this.
I still am in that camp, and it pisses me off how the media hypes this. I use common sense (antibac, staying away from sick people etc.), but that's it. That people are now hoarding food stuffs and toilet paper and what-have-you as if we're in some sort of apocalyptic movie is just plain annoying. I'm not going to put my life on hold because of this, even if society desperately tries to prevent me from doing so (banning flights, gatherings, cinema screenings, you name it).
It's a virus worth taking seriously, of course, with normal precautions. But not with the kind of paranoia and hysteria we're seeing now.
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I actually live in the area that is particularly hard hit in Germany ("Kreis Heinsberg"), and I actually don't see any hysteria or panic. Even if a Supermarket shelf is empty with something, it is just hours before it is filled again. There is not shortage of anything and life goes on. Of course, schools and kindergartens are still closed, and many events and concerts are canceled or postponed. I think there will be quite an economical impact. Jobwise I started earlier this year to organize a business meeting in Italy, now I have to cancel that and look for an alternative, possibly even setup a virtual meeting as an in-between solution. Public and health officials seem to be quite upfront with information. I honestly don't see any panic or hysteria anywhere. Maybe I just don't notice it.
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Mar 12, 2020 - 3:31 AM
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Jim Phelps
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The U.S. is now banning all non-U.S. resident travel from Europe into the U.S. (except from the UK) for 30 days.
It's a strange travel ban really as it excludes the UK when the UK has more cases than most other European countries.
So now, continental Europeans who have to fly to the US will be scrambling for British Airways and Virgin Atlantic tickets from London Heathrow and Gatwick. BA and Virgin Atlantic flights will be full... while Air France, Lufthansa, Swiss Air, Iberia and KLM planes will sit empty and unused. Those airlines will lose millions. BA and Virgin will be laughing all the way to the bank. It's a very odd move by Trump.
From The Guardian:
"Which countries does the ban apply to?
"According to the US Department for Homeland Security (DHS) and the president’s proclamation, the ban applies to the countries belonging to the 26-nation Schengen passport-free zone. These are:
"Austria, Belgium, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, and Switzerland.
"As non-members of Schengen, Britain and Ireland are not covered by the ban.
"The restrictions will cover “most foreign nationals” who have been in any of the Schengen zone countries 'at any point during the 14 days prior to their scheduled arrival to the US'"
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/11/trump-coronavirus-europe-travel-suspended
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Mar 12, 2020 - 3:57 AM
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Thor
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I actually live in the area that is particularly hard it in Germany ("Kreis Heinsberg"), and I actually don't see any hysteria or panic. Even if a Supermarket shelf is empty with something, it is just hours before it is filled again. There is not shortage of anything and life goes on. Of course, schools and kindergartens are still closed, and many events and concerts are canceled or postponed. I think there will be quite an economical impact. Jobwise I started earlier this year to organize a business meeting in Italy, now I have to cancel that and look for an alternative, possibly even setup a virtual meeting as an in-between solution. Public and health officials seem to be quite upfront with information. I honestly don't see any panic or hysteria anywhere. Maybe I just don't notice it.
It's a very different scene here. Media and social media hysteria are one thing, but I just now saw the real-life mayhem here in Oslo. Went out to buy groceries, just what I needed, and on my way to the store saw 6-7 people carrying HUGE packs of toilet paper and grocery bags. Inside the store itself -- on 11.30 on a Thursday, mind you, a WORK DAY -- the store was packed with customers and food stuffs (especially dry food like pasta and crispbread) were flying off the shelves. Antibac (and facemasks) are sold out in all the pharmacies I visited. It's ridiculous.
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