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 Posted:   Mar 9, 2020 - 9:38 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

A full shelf is not indicative of good or bad in a super market.

A typically Wal-Mart here, for example, only has full shelves* because there are stock crew replenishing them all day and they get tree to five trucks throughout the day from the warehouses.

A typical Winn Dixie here in my county, on the other hand, barely has anybody doing anything, barely any customers, and full shelves of items that aren't moving because they charge such high prices o everything. I walked in one about a month ago and was reminded of what I almost always think: How do they stay in business???



* = It's not possible to have full shelves across the board; warehouse shortages, factory shortages, product recalls, etc.

 
 Posted:   Mar 9, 2020 - 2:16 PM   
 By:   litefoot   (Member)

Italy has now quarantined the entire country. Public gatherings banned. Sport suspended. This is extraordinary.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-51810673

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 9, 2020 - 3:08 PM   
 By:   KeV McG   (Member)

As Bill stated above, it sounds like lots of Italy is Big Trouble In Little China.

 
 Posted:   Mar 9, 2020 - 3:18 PM   
 By:   BillCarson   (Member)

Couple prisons in italy, inmates have killed other prisoners and taken staff hostages. Like we aint got enough shit happening in the world atm.

 
 Posted:   Mar 10, 2020 - 8:10 AM   
 By:   jackfu   (Member)

While my heart goes out to the victims of this disease, it really "bugs" me that the media (US, at least) seems to have a vested interest in hyping the impact of it.

Virus outbreaks always come and go in a bell curve (noted back in the 1800s, btw) and this one will, too.
I'm not trying to laugh this off, or minimize it, but as others have stated on here, far more people die of flu each year and corona's impact so far in the US has been most serious for the elderly and those with immune issues.

edwzoomom, I am so sorry to hear of your son's predicament and you and your family are in my thoughts and prayers. Please keep us updated.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 10, 2020 - 8:43 AM   
 By:   Mark   (Member)


Politics Daily this afternoon..... "hopefully we can learn from one is happening in Italy and understand what to do and what not to do". From my experience (of living a short while in Italy and having a number of Italian friends) always do the opposite of whatever the Italians have done. Piss up and brewery comes to mind when it comes to their organisation skills. It doesn't surprise me that they have it so bad there.

According to the chart of countries ranked by ability to respond to an epidemic/pandemic the USA is best prepared followed by the UK. China is 41st. Italy is 31st.

As I've said before, I feel the media are over hyping this for the wrong reasons as a sense of perspective needs to be taken. I would like to think I would feel the same even if I lived in Italy.

 
 Posted:   Mar 10, 2020 - 8:54 AM   
 By:   BillCarson   (Member)

Yes the relentless media scaremongering is not only irresponsible, its downright dangerous. If corona virus dont get us, the depression will!! frown

See my post 9 up from yours - thats why its been bad in italy!

Such a shame...end of winter....good time of year, the sun is peaking out, temps rising, winds on the way out....and yet its hard to feel positive about anything with this hanging over us all.

 
 Posted:   Mar 10, 2020 - 9:31 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Obviously the media will hype what ever will get them more views, which means higher ratings and more money in their pockets. They couldn't care less about responsible reporting even if the ends results leads to more public harm. I'm reading they maybe closer to banning crowds at sporting events in the US. At least in certain counties.

 
 Posted:   Mar 10, 2020 - 7:18 PM   
 By:   DavidinBerkeley   (Member)

I went shopping at the grocery yesterday. Some things were a bit low on stock. The pasta shelves, though, were WIPED OUT.

Go figure.

 
 Posted:   Mar 10, 2020 - 7:38 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

See below.

 
 Posted:   Mar 10, 2020 - 7:39 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

I went shopping at the grocery yesterday. Some things were a bit low on stock. The pasta shelves, though, were WIPED OUT.

Go figure.


It's always canned, boxed and non-perishable items that get snapped up during any sort of emergency.

 
 Posted:   Mar 10, 2020 - 8:18 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

They're starting to lock down assisted living facilities. No visitors or family members will be allowed to enter the buildings and employees will be screened for the virus.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2020 - 1:57 AM   
 By:   Mark   (Member)

Ive been firmly in the 'Don't panic, nothing to see here' camp and have accused the media of overhyping this. I've got to admit I think I could be well wrong. In the UK we are still letting people into this country from Italy and I've got friends there who say it is very very serious. They say that a very large % of hospital cases there are under the age of 50, so this business about only the old and ill being vulnerable is rubbish. I wasn't worried at all a week ago..... And whilst I am not one to panic. I do have some real concerns. If this government cannot make the decision to stop flights into this country from Italy despite most of the UK cases originating in Italy then we are well screwed.... Because that really is a simple decision... So how can they get the harder, more complex decisions right. I think the government should be telling every business to figure out ways they can contain the virus..... One example.: yesterday I caught a train and was asked for my ticket.... Ticket collector took my ticket, checked it and handed it back. That ticket collector went down the entire train doing this.... Say he had Coronovirus or one of the tickets he touched had it...... Everyday things like this need to be reviewed and changed and bloody quick

 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2020 - 2:45 AM   
 By:   BillCarson   (Member)

There is a million ways to catch such a bug, not least from germs in aircon, warm doctors surgeries, change when buying something, touching a chair in a restaurant, earing food someone else has prepared, etc etc so in the scheme of things, scarily all it means is not if you can avoid it but how long before you catch it. So far in the uk we are a few weeks behind italy so clearly its going to become more widespread and affect more people. Every country stopping all flights mightve slowed it down 2 months ago but even that wouldnt conrsin it.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2020 - 3:38 AM   
 By:   Mark   (Member)

There is a million ways to catch such a bug, not least from germs in aircon, warm doctors surgeries, change when buying something, touching a chair in a restaurant, earing food someone else has prepared, etc etc so in the scheme of things, scarily all it means is not if you can avoid it but how long before you catch it. So far in the uk we are a few weeks behind italy so clearly its going to become more widespread and affect more people. Every country stopping all flights mightve slowed it down 2 months ago but even that wouldnt conrsin it.

I'm no expert Bill but with most of the UK cases originating in Italy, stopping all flights from Italy to the UK seems a no-brainer. I agree it probably would not stop it going viral in the UK but it would have slowed it down a lot, perhaps by 2-3 weeks. With scientists working on antiviral medicines like remdesivir to fight and save people from Coronovirus and warm weather (which may slow it down) not far away, those 2-3 weeks could mean saving hundreds of lives.

 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2020 - 4:27 AM   
 By:   litefoot   (Member)

Ive been firmly in the 'Don't panic, nothing to see here' camp and have accused the media of overhyping this. I've got to admit I think I could be well wrong. In the UK we are still letting people into this country from Italy and I've got friends there who say it is very very serious. They say that a very large % of hospital cases there are under the age of 50, so this business about only the old and ill being vulnerable is rubbish. I wasn't worried at all a week ago..... And whilst I am not one to panic. I do have some real concerns. If this government cannot make the decision to stop flights into this country from Italy despite most of the UK cases originating in Italy then we are well screwed.... Because that really is a simple decision... So how can they get the harder, more complex decisions right. I think the government should be telling every business to figure out ways they can contain the virus..... One example.: yesterday I caught a train and was asked for my ticket.... Ticket collector took my ticket, checked it and handed it back. That ticket collector went down the entire train doing this.... Say he had Coronovirus or one of the tickets he touched had it...... Everyday things like this need to be reviewed and changed and bloody quick

The government values the economy more than they do the aged population. The government also know that the virus is ultimately not containable. They know full well it will spread throughout the world. So why damage the economy by damaging business?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2020 - 4:36 AM   
 By:   Mark   (Member)



The government values the economy more than they do the aged population. The government also know that the virus is ultimately not containable. They know full well it will spread throughout the world. So why damage the economy by damaging business?

I think you are right there Lightfoot. I did read a suggestion that the reason the UK government didn't stop flights to-from Italy was becautthey were trying to safeguard the finances of the airlines as they didn't want another flybe

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2020 - 5:17 AM   
 By:   ROBERT Z   (Member)

I went to the local pharmacy to take my usual treatment, the pharmacist clearly sick coughs on me and in her hands, takes my insurance card and my prescription before giving me my medication, without at any time disinfecting her hands ... pffff!!!!

 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2020 - 7:34 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I went to the local pharmacy to take my usual treatment, the pharmacist clearly sick coughs on me and in her hands, takes my insurance card and my prescription before giving me my medication, without at any time disinfecting her hands ... pffff!!!!

WTF? No way! LOL

 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2020 - 12:36 PM   
 By:   litefoot   (Member)

Virus spreading fast in the US. Faster than here in the UK. We did have more cases - 460 total - but now the US has over 1000. Why is this? Better healthcare service to diagnose it?

Everyone in the UK is being told to self-isolate and NOT go to a doctor. So technically we shall never know what the true UK figure is.

 
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