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 Posted:   Nov 1, 2018 - 11:32 AM   
 By:   paulhickling   (Member)

Just sharing my gag on the UK cash thread just in case it's one of those 'threads we never click on'...

New £50 notes anyone? https://twitter.com/Stan_And_Ollie/status/1052501040556208128

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 1, 2018 - 12:58 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Speaking of gags, hearing any mention of "Sheffield" has not been the same since I saw History Boys. big grin

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 1, 2018 - 1:30 PM   
 By:   ANZALDIMAN   (Member)

The historic "The Music Box" steps still exist. The original steps from 1932. I'm fascinated by them. The area around them has certainly changed but those steps remain.

A lot of folks have videos up on you tube documenting their visits there. I've found Jordan the Lion's visit to be my favorite. Jordan is great. He was a personal friend of Shelley Winters during the last years of her life. And there are videos up on that too. If you have not yet discovered his channel, do yourself a favor and give him a view. Some of the latest videos he's done on James Dean and the history and locations of his early years in Fairmount Indiana are tops. And so much more there to peruse for movie fans.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 2, 2018 - 8:56 AM   
 By:   paulhickling   (Member)

Would be nice to see those steps 'in the flesh'. Got friends who have been. Our Grand Sheik for one.

 
 Posted:   Nov 5, 2018 - 3:45 AM   
 By:   agentMaestraX   (Member)

I been MANY times to see these famous film locations - part of the Hollywood history.
Also on my list seen are Chaplin, Lloyd & Keaton Locations!
Yes the film was really good. There were some inaccuracies, but so what it's a drama, not a documentary. Everyone enjoyed it
and gave it a BIG round of applause at end credits. Thanks to the HELPMATES UK TENT for providing the screening invitation!
*I certainly second that for all to see & subscribe to Daze with Jordan the Lion Vlogs on YouTube!*

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 5, 2018 - 3:55 AM   
 By:   paulhickling   (Member)

I been MANY times to see these famous film locations - part of the Hollywood history.
Also on my list seen are Chaplin, Lloyd & Keaton Locations!
Yes the film was really good. There were some inaccuracies, but so what it's a drama, not a documentary. Everyone enjoyed it
and gave it a BIG round of applause at end credits. Thanks to the HELPMATES UK TENT for providing the screening invitation!
*I certainly second that for all to see & subscribe to Daze with Jordan the Lion Vlogs on YouTube!*


Yes I'm very happy to forget those inaccuracies if they aid the film to have a story. Seems like a very good willed attempt at promoting the real thing, and I too will applaud it for that. Glad you enjoyed it. Alright for some!

 
 Posted:   Nov 5, 2018 - 10:25 AM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

I once attended a party at an apartment building Chaplin built for his employees!

See. I Am A Hollyood 'insider'

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 5, 2018 - 4:56 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

SAO hits the cinema stateside Dec. 28...

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 5, 2018 - 10:25 PM   
 By:   jenkwombat   (Member)

I once saw the Hollywood sign. Another time, I visited Universal Studios. Just call me "Hollywood Insider" from now on. wink

 
 Posted:   Nov 6, 2018 - 3:30 AM   
 By:   agentMaestraX   (Member)

'Another Fine Film Ollie?' - 'Yes Stanley I was most impressed we are now in COLOR!'

 
 Posted:   Jan 2, 2019 - 10:52 AM   
 By:   GreatGonzo   (Member)

Currently 90% Fresh on RottenTomatoes.com. Whatever that means.

Watching trailer and clips of this, being cautiously optimistic.
It would appear that John C. Reilly in particular has nailed this.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 6, 2019 - 12:16 PM   
 By:   ANZALDIMAN   (Member)

Would be nice to see those steps 'in the flesh'. Got friends who have been. Our Grand Sheik for one.

I hope that someday you'll get to see them. And I hope you'll post about it.

Care to share what you know of your friends and Grand Sheik's visit?

I'd be interested to hear about their reactions. And their reactions while possibly visiting other original L&H filming locations. So many places in film history are now lost to time. I'm glad quite of few of these locations can still be found, visited, and appreciated. You Tube has been a great source for this and is the next best thing to being there.

 
 Posted:   Jan 6, 2019 - 1:51 PM   
 By:   Ray Faiola   (Member)

Okay, I saw the picture last week. First, a note about the theater. This was Landmark Cinemas, down the block on West 57th Street from CBS. Admission was $18.50. There were 24 seats in the auditorium (luxury seats to be sure, but still...). The screen was the same size as mine and I have 40 seats!!

Okay, the film was a charming fairy tale. Concerning Laurel and Hardy's final tour of the British Isles, Coogan and Reilly were both excellent as the Boys. And Rufus Jones was a riot as their tour manager Bernard Delfont. The wives were interesting, contrasting characters but, like the imagined resentments written into the script, not at all like the real Ida and Lucille. But for dramatic purposes they were both well-drawn and wonderfully played.

The period was faithfully recreated and the picture was made with a lot of love.

If I had one real criticism it was borne out by the end credits. On the right side of the screen we are shown actual photos of Stan and Babe during the tour. In every photo both Laurel and Hardy are beaming with beautiful sparkling smiles. That was the real Laurel and Hardy. That sparkle, that organic joy, was completely missing from the characterizations by Coogan and Reilly. Otherwise, they were more than serviceable stand-ins for the great comedy team.

 
 Posted:   Jan 6, 2019 - 2:11 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Glad to see Ray liked it.
And in spite of dramatic licence!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 17, 2019 - 4:38 AM   
 By:   paulhickling   (Member)

So I too finally got to see this charming film yesterday. I pretty much agree with everything Ray said. It is true that there was just that little bit extra missing from the actual expressions on the two stars' faces when going for the 'look', especially the intensity of Stan's smile in particular.

In most of the stills I felt that Riley was way more convincing than Coogan, but of course he did have the advantage of prosthetics which really did make him look more like Ollie than Riley himself, with the real actor almost unrecognisable it was so convincing. Coogan came into his own however when playing the role in the actual moving picture. His vocal tones are great and even his hat seems to suit him better (harder than some might think to get right).

The made up (characterisation-wise) wives were good, especially Ida, with her reluctance to sit next to Delfont, a running line of humour I thought more successful than the odd attempt at belly laughs. And while I didn't exactly bawl my eyes out I did well up on two occasions. One, where Ollie collapses at the beauty contest, surprisingly as I'd seen it lots of times in the trailers and clips previously. And the other when they do their final dance on stage as the music swelled. A true feel-good moment. I also appreciated the imagined Robin Hood scene.

But the real highlight was the opening scene during the making of Way Out West, and I couldn't help wishing we could have another movie focusing on that era. As the present film is British made, appropriate given it's actual stage in their careers, one set in Hollywood would be best made there with all that a more Hollywood budget and setting could give us.

As it is, Stan and Ollie is, as many have said, a love letter to the greatest of all comedy duos. On that level it's virtually perfect.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 17, 2019 - 4:52 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

I hope to see it in the next week or two (well, it's gonna be two, unless it's on - in English - in Fuerta Ventura).
What did you think of Rolfe Kent's score, Paul?

 
 Posted:   Jan 17, 2019 - 5:08 AM   
 By:   agentMaestraX   (Member)

Glad you enjoyed it ph!
Overall 'A Fine' film the scene where the WIVES (another perfect double act) - Lucille & Ida are present at the reception
Lucille tells Ida during conversation 'You are the epitamy of Hollywood!' for which Ida bites back 'Don't you pity me!' in her
Russian accent! - Just ACE!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 17, 2019 - 6:40 AM   
 By:   paulhickling   (Member)

I hope to see it in the next week or two (well, it's gonna be two, unless it's on - in English - in Fuerta Ventura).
What did you think of Rolfe Kent's score, Paul?


Sorry Kev, I don't remember THAT much of it though I was aware I think of it touching the old heart strings, but I intend to see again soon... I do remember them using the songs Shine on Harvest Moon, Trail of the Lonesome Pine and At the Ball That's All. The latter does get some oomph from Kent as the music swells for the lovely final scene. That scene makes you want to wind it back and start again.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 17, 2019 - 6:57 AM   
 By:   paulhickling   (Member)

Glad you enjoyed it ph!
Overall 'A Fine' film the scene where the WIVES (another perfect double act) - Lucille & Ida are present at the reception
Lucille tells Ida during conversation 'You are the epitamy of Hollywood!' for which Ida bites back 'Don't you pity me!' in her
Russian accent! - Just ACE!


Hah! Absolutely, and the look on Lucille's face is priceless too. It was a fairly smart move to make the girls an almost second double act. After all it does touch on the Boys' tribulations with wives in their movies. The movie is sprinkled with touches like that, you know, in keeping with things that were done in the films themselves. Oh, and we do get a small comment from dear old James Finlayson too.

This is the thing. The fan in me wanted to see Mae Busch and Charlie Hall and the rest of the stalwarts. Something we'd only get if we had another one set in their Hollywood heyday. Of course if it stops here, what better way can a film end than leaving us wanting more? And since this is a promotion for the real thing perhaps the best way to do that is to actually watch the real thing...

Nearly forgot! It was Sons of the Desert night last Monday. Silent starter was The Second Hundred Years in which the Boys are convicts in proper striped outfits and shaved heads, followed by The Hoosegow with more prison antics, Below Zero with the "three great big steaks smothered in onions" routine and a disastrous inability to pay the bill, and finally Laughing Gravy - the one with the little dog - extended version.

Stan and Ollie was yesterday for the wife and myself so it's been a good week!

 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2019 - 2:06 AM   
 By:   Ray Faiola   (Member)

So I too finally got to see this charming film yesterday. I pretty much agree with everything Ray said. It is true that there was just that little bit extra missing from the actual expressions on the two stars' faces when going for the 'look', especially the intensity of Stan's smile in particular.

Paul, I think it goes beyond a look. I think it strikes at the characters' inner realities. Reilly almost seemed to be playing "Ollie" instead of the real Babe. And Coogan let Stan's (concocted) inner conflict over his "Robin Hood" deception and over Babe's 1939 treachery overtake his overall good nature.

 
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