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 Posted:   Dec 31, 2019 - 6:58 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Anyone see BAD TIMES AT El ROYALE? A colleague at work raved about it and said he enjoyed its Tarantinoesque vibe.

Why Mr. Phelps, you must be a psychic! wink

Ms. Birri and I had the displeasure of watching this turkey last night. We instinctively knew in advance that it was going to suck, but sometimes that is just the kind of mood you are in.

This film is an utter Tarantino ripoff in terms of style, technique, plot, time jumps, characters, locale, etc., all of which are poorly conceived and executed. The hotel is kind of cool, though, so the film at least has that going for it.

As someone who generally likes, but does not worship, Tarantino, watching this film made me realize just how good even his lesser films are. So maybe it wasn't a total loss after all.

But if you like Tarantino, I implore you, don't make the mistake that Mrs. Birri and I made. In the time it took us to suffer through this travesty, we could have listened to two Jackie Gleason albums instead.

 
 Posted:   Dec 31, 2019 - 7:48 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

There is a guy at work that liked the film, no joke.

Does the EL ROYALE have a scene that definitively exposes its awfulness? Anything come to mind?

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 31, 2019 - 7:57 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

There is a guy at work that liked the film, no joke.

Does the EL ROYALE have a scene that definitively exposes its awfulness? Anything come to mind?


Oh, God, too many to list, but late in the film, the Brad Pitt-looking villain sexily dances to Deep Purple's "Hush" while everyone else is tied up. That might have taken the cake.

 
 Posted:   Dec 31, 2019 - 8:16 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Does the EL ROYALE have a scene that definitively exposes its awfulness? Anything come to mind?

Oh, God, too many to list, but late in the film, the Brad Pitt-looking villain sexily dances to Deep Purple's "Hush" while everyone else is tied up. That might have taken the cake.




I guess Brad Pitt is now officially "influential" as an actor. wink

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 31, 2019 - 8:21 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

I guess Brad Pitt is now officially "influential" as an actor. wink

The guy does have nice abs, though!

Note that the juke box is completely wrong. It plays 78s, and all of the songs in the movie are from the 1960s!

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 31, 2019 - 8:35 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Jim, going back to your original post, when we watched "The Limey" recently, I was not picking up on a Tarantino vibe at all.

 
 Posted:   Dec 31, 2019 - 8:39 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Jim, going back to your original post, when we watched "The Limey" recently, I was not picking up on a Tarantino vibe at all.

The film is Soderbergh with a dollop of Tarantino plopped in for that patented late '90s edgy hipness.

That dollop being the Stacy the Hitman scenes, like this one:



 
 
 Posted:   Dec 31, 2019 - 8:55 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

The film is Soderbergh with a dollop of Tarantino plopped in for that patented late '90s edgy hipness.

That dollop being the Stacy the Hitman scenes, like this one:


Gotcha. Just saying that it didn't feel self-consciously Tarantino while I was watching it, in comparison to something like the dreaded El Royale. Even the film's title is stolen from Pulp Fiction's cheeseburger!

 
 Posted:   Dec 31, 2019 - 9:01 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

As mentioned upthread, Tarantino and Soderbergh--by way of Elmore Leonard--both used Michael Keaton's cop character in Jackie Brown (1997) and in Out of Sight (1998), so I suppose there's that for a "shared universe."

 
 Posted:   Dec 31, 2019 - 9:31 AM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

There is a guy at work that liked the film, no joke.

Does the EL ROYALE have a scene that definitively exposes its awfulness? Anything come to mind?


Best film of the year.
Philistine s!

Who you gonna believe, me or Billdrick?

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 31, 2019 - 9:35 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)


Best film of the year.
Philistine s!

Who you gonna believe, me or Billdrick?


There'll be nothing to explain with a girl like you, Marsha.

 
 Posted:   Dec 31, 2019 - 9:43 AM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)


Best film of the year.
Philistine s!

Who you gonna believe, me or Billdrick?


There'll be nothing to explain with a girl like you, Marsha.


Stick to subjects you know something about...like Jackie Gleason!

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 31, 2019 - 9:45 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Stick to subjects you know something about...like Jackie Gleason!

Thanks Marshy. One subject I know something about is Tarantino films; and while I'm no expert, I'm knowledgeable about the topic enough to be able to spot a third-rate knockoff when I see one.

And "third-rate" is pretty generous when describing "Bad Night Watching the El Royale."

 
 Posted:   Dec 31, 2019 - 10:00 AM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Stick to subjects you know something about...like Jackie Gleason!

Thanks Marshy. One subject I know something about is Tarantino films; and while I'm no expert, I'm knowledgeable about the topic enough to be able to spot a third-rate knockoff when I see one.

And "third-rate" is pretty generous when describing "Bad Night Watching the El Royale."


Your posts are third rate.Loser.
Try enjoying the film as a stand alone work instead of constantly comparing it to QT.

Nah. That ship has sailed.

 
 Posted:   Mar 25, 2020 - 7:29 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

While watching Jackie Brown, I concluded that Tarantino's films "must" take place in an alternate world in which the early 1970s never ended. Tarantino's early '70s blends his patented ultraviolence with the '70-'74 era "Vietnam, Watergate, burned-out blues."

Tarantino makes it easy to love the ‘70-’74 era and that his characters inhabit a world where the early ‘70s never ended, or if they did, the era was everyone’s shared point of pop cultural reference.

I have always been obsessed with the early ‘70s, having spent the past fifteen years immersing myself in the era’s history and pop culture. Now I have added a nostalgic Quentin Tarantino perspective to this early '70s fixation.

 
 Posted:   Mar 25, 2020 - 10:59 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Hopefully, Tarantino will make a film set in the 1970-75 era. Chronologically speaking, he came close with the staggeringly-disappointing Once Upon a Time...in Hollywood, but has yet to dive deep into the era, references of which can be found in several of his films.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 25, 2020 - 11:27 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

That awful new series "The Hunters" is full of third-rate Tarantino pop culture schtick.

Even Tarantino didn't resort to his usual tricks in his own nazi film!

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 25, 2020 - 11:29 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

While watching Jackie Brown, I concluded that Tarantino's films "must" take place in an alternate world in which the early 1970s never ended.

Well, I live in that world too. A bunch of our friends were going to throw a 70s themed party, and we realized it would be no different from any of our other parties in terms of music and fashion.

 
 Posted:   Mar 25, 2020 - 11:59 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

While watching Jackie Brown, I concluded that Tarantino's films "must" take place in an alternate world in which the early 1970s never ended.

Well, I live in that world too. A bunch of our friends were going to throw a 70s themed party, and we realized it would be no different from any of our other parties in terms of music and fashion.


You and Quentin Tarantino are the same age, correct? It makes sense that you and he would obsess over that time since you actually remember thise years an which are your formative years.

For whatever reason--and there are most likely dozens of them--I frequently revisit that 1970-75 time period even though it's really before my time (born in '71). However, the music, TV, and films of that era were all still quite accessible and playing continually--continuously, even--during my late '70s-early '80s frame of reference. I suppose there's something I find fascinating about the years just before my memory kicked in.

I also seem to embrace the early '70s every Spring as I have done the past three years; don't know why, though. I'd better ask Freud. wink

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 26, 2020 - 1:05 AM   
 By:   riotengine   (Member)

Here are the (alleged) 10 Worst Copycat Tarantino films:

http://www.tasteofcinema.com/2016/the-10-worst-copycat-movies-of-pulp-fiction/


The writer can't be bothered to get John Frankenheimer's name right. wink

That said, I would actually like to revisit Things to Do In Denver When You're Dead.

I already recently acquired a DVD of The Limey.

Greg Espinoza

 
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