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 Posted:   May 16, 2016 - 11:08 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

Shame about the girl bolton stabs. I liked her character and spirit. Same as the hound and Jerome. When such characters are out, the overall show loses something.

 
 Posted:   May 16, 2016 - 11:40 AM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

Shame about the girl bolton stabs. I liked her character and spirit. Same as the hound and Jerome. When such characters are out, the overall show loses something.

And I'm tired of it. That monster Bolton should have been done away with -- in the most umpleasant manner imaginable -- long ago. I hope he's gone by the end of this season pleeeeeeease!

 
 Posted:   May 20, 2016 - 1:48 PM   
 By:   BornOfAJackal   (Member)

So, no Osha making trouble behind Bolton lines. Ramsay appears to have gotten some unimpeachable information confirming Osha's loyalty to the Starks from Theon Greyjoy, and offed her in the middle of her attempted seduction. Too bad. Well done scene, but it smelled like the writers wanted to rid themselves of a superfluous character in the quickest way possible. This is the kind of thing that made Boardwalk Empire into a laughingstock. Take care David and Dan and Bryan.

Petyr "Littlefinger" Baelish made an appropriately oily reappearance. I liked his phrase "Gather the Knights of The Vale. Time to join the fray". Though I suppose the real meaning of the last sentence could be "join the Frey" in which case it means that Littlefinger means to join The forces of The Vale to Walder Frey's contemptable clan. That would be abominably delicious. I can't escape the suspicion that Littlefinger, in his machinations, is somehow--wittingly or unwittingly--serving a nobler end than he knows. Question is, who ultimately pulls his strings, if anyone?

As for Daenerys (known as "Dany" to the linguistic hipsters of Ice and Fire fandom), it was always just a matter of time before the silver-haired nymph-of-honor ended up in charge of an immense horde of combined Dothraki khalasars. Why take her through all that Dothraki hell a seeming hundred years ago unless there was going to be a titanic payoff later?

Trust me, my naïve fellow Thrones-watchers. The storyline of the season is Samwell Tarly returning to his family's estate. Novel readers know how crucial the Citadel is to the outcome of this story, and know how much Samwell's father Randyll means to the theme of this whole story. I can't wait for that.

And goddamn it if that f----r Jonathan Pryce isn't becoming the guiltiest pleasure on this show. He consistently upstages every other plot and character with the best acting on the show. This on a show full of quality performances. And the way he's doing it! The last thing a lesser show would introduce is an enigmatic character who espouses, with genuine conviction, a firm morality and humility. Pryce's High Septon is quickly becoming an enigma to rival Littlefinger, only moral. Or is that an illusion, too? Delicious.

And the Lannisters' and Tyrell's plans for the High Septon? Can't wait to see the outcome of that!

 
 Posted:   May 23, 2016 - 1:44 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

I was really happy that Sansa finally got a true protector in Brienne.

I've never read the books, but from what I've read online recently, it seems like Sansa will finally be able to strike back after season upon season of injustice inflicted upon her. I'd certainly love to see that 'rape-revenge' plotline developped, should they choose to do it.


The whole Sansa storyline ,post Joffrey, is unique to the tv show so we do not know what will happen!!!!!!
smile
brm

 
 Posted:   May 23, 2016 - 2:27 PM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

Hold the bloody door!

 
 Posted:   May 23, 2016 - 5:55 PM   
 By:   BornOfAJackal   (Member)

I think we finally met Lyanna Stark last night. A nice, big, sloppy cyber-kiss to anyone who might guess who that is...

 
 Posted:   May 25, 2016 - 2:09 PM   
 By:   BornOfAJackal   (Member)

About Season 6, Episode 5 "The Door"...

I found it highly pleasurable to see Sansa giving Petyr "Littlefinger" Baelish the whatfor in a very harsh manner, and being very abrasive about the trauma he delivered her unto. I liked Brienne grasping the hilt of her sword as she prods Littlefinger to answer Sansa's question. One of the most delicious scenes in the whole series.

I enjoyed the touring theatrical company in Braavos that Arya "no one" Stark is sent to scope out. Essie Davis as Lady Crane is as much a piece of mega-casting as Diana Rigg or Max Von Sydow. Fantastic to see Richard E. Grant in the company as well. I hope we see more of this troupe. And that a girl will not poison Lady Crane.

It surprises me not that The Children of the Forest (aka Those Who Sing the Song of Earth) are the initiators of the whole White Walker/Wight menace. Recall the sequence, novel readers. First there were The Children of the Forest, then came the Andal invasion, and then The First Men, who warred against them all, no doubt necessitating desperate measures. And this season's newly redesigned Children of the Forest do seem to look a little bit like...

...The High Priestess of the Red Temple of Volantis, Kinvara, who really spooked Tyrion and especially Varys. That look on Kinvara's face as she turns away from Varys had the same kind of contempt that the High Septon displayed on turning away from Jaime Lannister after parrying Jaime's threat to cut him down. If Melisandre was not what she appeared to be, then who knows what the High Priestess could be hiding?

As for Hodor (meaning, apparently, "hold the door"), good self-sacrifice, Hodor! It might be best to think of Hodor as the latest in a long line of Brutish Confederates who may or may not return to help the Stark children right the wrongs done to them: Benjen Stark, Syrio Forel, Sandor "The Hound" Clegane, and now Hodor. Here's hoping we see them all again!



 
 Posted:   May 26, 2016 - 1:45 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

EW claims there was an earlier ep of GOT where Melissandre raised the dead.
I do not remember that. There was a witch who resurrected KHal Drogo in season one.

Anyone confirm this claim?thankx
brm

 
 
 Posted:   May 26, 2016 - 2:19 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

EW claims there was an earlier ep of GOT where Melissandre raised the dead.
I do not remember that. There was a witch who resurrected KHal Drogo in season one.

Anyone confirm this claim?thankx
brm


Yeah, it's one of the things I remember the most, as it was one of the first times paranormal elements were introduced in the GOT universe (first or second season). I can't remember who it was that she killed, but she conjured up some shadow demon from her womb (if memory serves). Perhaps Jackal can elaborate; he seems to know the plotlines and names more than most.

 
 Posted:   May 26, 2016 - 2:39 PM   
 By:   BornOfAJackal   (Member)

I think Melisandre was there in season three or four when Beric Dondarrion of the Brotherhood Without Banners was cleaved almost in two by The Hound. I think she did resurrect him, if I recall correctly.

Mirri Maz Durr, the Lhazareen witch who essentially killed both Khal Drogo and Daenerys's unborn child, wasn't much of a resurrector, but a fine bloodmagic assassin.

 
 
 Posted:   May 26, 2016 - 3:04 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

But do you remember the scene I talked about -- where Melissandre unleashed that shadow demon from her womb? I'm surprised so many people have forgotten that scene; to me, it was one of the most defining moments in the whole saga.

 
 Posted:   May 26, 2016 - 3:57 PM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

But do you remember the scene I talked about -- where Melissandre unleashed that shadow demon from her womb? I'm surprised so many people have forgotten that scene; to me, it was one of the most defining moments in the whole saga.

Well? Tell me what it means, because I don't know. Frankly, I can't figure the show out. What does it ALL mean?

 
 Posted:   May 26, 2016 - 4:03 PM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

But do you remember the scene I talked about -- where Melissandre unleashed that shadow demon from her womb? I'm surprised so many people have forgotten that scene; to me, it was one of the most defining moments in the whole saga.

one of my fave melissandre scenes. Up there with bonking stannis on the wargames table and taking the kings blood with leeches!

 
 Posted:   May 26, 2016 - 4:21 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

EW claims there was an earlier ep of GOT where Melissandre raised the dead.
I do not remember that. There was a witch who resurrected KHal Drogo in season one.

Anyone confirm this claim?thankx
brm


Yeah, it's one of the things I remember the most, as it was one of the first times paranormal elements were introduced in the GOT universe (first or second season). I can't remember who it was that she killed, but she conjured up some shadow demon from her womb (if memory serves). Perhaps Jackal can elaborate; he seems to know the plotlines and names more than most.


NO the Shadow Demon doesn't qualify as a resurrection (for one thing it was in the form of Stannis)

 
 Posted:   May 26, 2016 - 4:23 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

I think Melisandre was there in season three or four when Beric Dondarrion of the Brotherhood Without Banners was cleaved almost in two by The Hound. I think she did resurrect him, if I recall correctly.

.


NO. Beric already had the power of self-resurrection.
But ,
maybe he got it from the Lord of Light which is where Melisanndre gets her power (allegedly)

that could be it
bruce

 
 Posted:   May 26, 2016 - 4:24 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

But do you remember the scene I talked about -- where Melissandre unleashed that shadow demon from her womb? I'm surprised so many people have forgotten that scene; to me, it was one of the most defining moments in the whole saga.

Forget that scene?

no way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
brm

 
 Posted:   May 26, 2016 - 4:25 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

But do you remember the scene I talked about -- where Melissandre unleashed that shadow demon from her womb? I'm surprised so many people have forgotten that scene; to me, it was one of the most defining moments in the whole saga.

one of my fave melissandre scenes. Up there with bonking stannis on the wargames table and taking the kings blood with leeches!


gee, what a perv!
brm

 
 
 Posted:   May 26, 2016 - 4:29 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

NO the Shadow Demon doesn't qualify as a resurrection (for one thing it was in the form of Stannis)

Form of Stannis? I can't remember that. All I remember is Melissandre and -- I think -- Liam Cunningham's character approaching a gate through some rocks at night, and then that abstract shadow/smoke creature suddenly comes out of her at the end of the episode. I can't even remember what the purpose was, so I was hoping for some context by you connaiseurs. It was certainly one of the first big 'wow' moments to me that opened up the fantasy landscape considerably.

 
 Posted:   May 26, 2016 - 4:34 PM   
 By:   cormoranstrike   (Member)

But do you remember the scene I talked about -- where Melissandre unleashed that shadow demon from her womb? I'm surprised so many people have forgotten that scene; to me, it was one of the most defining moments in the whole saga.

Thor, the scene you're talking about happened at the end of Season 2 Episode 4 "Garden of Bones", where Davos Seaworth (on orders from Stannis Baratheon) takes Melisandre to shore where she gives birth to the demon (which was fathered by Stannis). In the beginning of the next episode "The Ghost of Harrenhal" the shadow demon murders King Renly Baratheon while Catelyn Stark and Brienne of Tarth are there to witness it. Brienne sees that the demon resembles Stannis, that's why she is from thereon determined to have revenge on Stannis. This is what Brienne refers to in Season 6 Episode 4 "Book of the Stranger" when she confronts Davos and Melisandre at Castle Black, telling them she killed Stannis and that he confessed to using dark magic to murder Renly, implying Brienne suspects or knows Melisandre and Davos were involved in the assassination of Renly.

The resurrection scene Mr. Marshall is asking about happened in Season 3 Episode 5 "Kissed by Fire". Lord Beric Dondarrion dies in trial by combat against Sandor "The Hound" Clegane. Thoros of Myr (a Red Priest of the Lord of Light) resurrects Dondarrion. Thoros later tells Arya Stark that the Lord of Light has resurrected Dondarrion six times. In the next episode "The Climb" Melisandre (a Red Priestess of the Lord of Light) arrives at the Brotherhood Without Banners hideout to take Gendry into her custody, and while there she is shocked to learn from Thoros of Myr that he has resurrected Dondarrion six times (with the help of the Lord of Light). It is therefore understood that Melisandre has not personally resurrected anyone until she does it with Jon Snow, but does know it has been done.

 
 
 Posted:   May 26, 2016 - 4:38 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Thanks, cormoranstrike. I had forgotten that it was to assasinate Renly. In fact, I had forgotten about that character entirely. But the scene itself is firmly planted in memory. Some scary shit at that time.

 
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