Yes, I do want "classic" Superman. But it doesn't fit in a modern jaded world. I would set a Superman story in the 40's.
Man I'd love a Superman movie as a period piece set in the 1940s but realistically we would never see that until these characters are in the public domain.
Sadly, I think you are absolutely right, although like you I’d love a period-set Superman movie.
I still hold out hope of the Fantastic 4 reboot being set in the 60s though. Now, that could happen - Marvel are consistently willing to shake things up a bit, plus the FF could easily be aligned to he modern MCU by falling into the Quantum Realm at the end of the movie and popping up in current day to fight the new Big Bad, Kang.
I'll give him props if he keeps Snyder a million miles away from all of this.
This!
To be honest it’s pretty clear WB don’t need Snyder anyway. Just look at Black Adam - tonally and stylistically I am willing to bet that the average theatre-goer would find Collet-Serra’ direction style indistinguishable from Synder’s; Slow down, suddenly speed up, oversaturated footage, rinse & repeat.
Superman Returns bombed because it recycled too many elements from the 1978 movie. Brandon Routh's Clark Kent was one-dimensional, while Kevin Spacey's Gene Hackman impression got old.
I’d suggest that Superman: Returns flopped because it was a godawful movie made by a filmmaker who, at best, is a journeyman director.
I agree about Routh although he was no worse than the equally wooden Henry Cavill. Spacey though was one of the very few things I liked about the film.
I'll go one further: Superman Returns flopped because it was the movie nobody wanted. It wasn't just a flop, it was an expensive flop. And I think Bryan Singer is a hack who keeps getting lucky. I was seriously disappointed to learn about Singer helming X-Men: Days of Future Past after Matt Vaughn knocked it out of the park with First Class.
I know most of you on this board dislike Snyder, but Man of Steel was exactly the update Superman needed.
And I think Bryan Singer is a hack who keeps getting lucky. I was seriously disappointed to learn about Singer helming X-Men: Days of Future Past after Matt Vaughn knocked it out of the park with First Class.
I know most of you on this board dislike Snyder, but Man of Steel was exactly the update Superman needed.
I disagree. Singer has done good work. Valkyrie proves it.
And I think Bryan Singer is a hack who keeps getting lucky. I was seriously disappointed to learn about Singer helming X-Men: Days of Future Past after Matt Vaughn knocked it out of the park with First Class.
I know most of you on this board dislike Snyder, but Man of Steel was exactly the update Superman needed.
I disagree. Singer has done good work. Valkyrie proves it.
Ugh, no on Synder being what Superman needed. Keep him away from anything good. He should go make his violent/decrepit/sadistic/rapey/over saturated/sh*t CGI movies he loves so much.
Valkyrie was very good so were the first two X-Men movies which the MCU Captain America saga stole its story line from.
Singer has many more misses than hits. Sad but true.
Valkyrie was very good so were the first two X-Men movies which the MCU Captain America saga stole its story line from.
Considering those movies are adapted to varying degrees from many different storylines (some quite old), I'm not sure how you arrived at that conclusion.
Singer has many more misses than hits. Sad but true.
Valkyrie was very good so were the first two X-Men movies which the MCU Captain America saga stole its story line from.
Considering those movies are adapted to varying degrees from many different storylines (some quite old), I'm not sure how you arrived at that conclusion.
I'm not a comics expert, so I'll bow to your knowledge on such things. I do know X-Men One and Two themes were very present in Captain America/Avengers. Who took from who? I dunno. Maybe both comics went down the same path, I dunno?
Bryan Singer is a hack and a predator, but yes he has made a couple of very good movies.
I can't keep track which people in Hollywood are evil. There's far worse in the world we do transactions with everyday without mentioning how evil they are. It is what it is.
6. PARADISE LOST---Wonder Woman prequel tv series about Themiscrya that is described as, “What’s the origin of an island of all women? What are the beautiful truths and the ugly truths behind all of that, and what’s the scheming like between the different power players in that society?”
3. SUPERMAN LEGACY---live-action movie written by James Gunn and is describe as, “It is not an origin story, it focuses on Superman balancing his Kryptonian heritage with his human upbringing… He is kindness in a world that thinks of kindness as old fashioned.”
9. SUPERGIRL: WOMAN OF TOMORROW---live-action movie described as, “In our [DCU] we see the difference between Superman who was sent to Earth and raised by loving parents from the time he was an infant vs. Supergirl who was raised on a rock chip off of Krypton and watched everyone around her die and be killed in terrible ways for the first 14 years of her life.”
Well these all sounds lovely!
A Wonder Woman series without Wonder Woman. A Superman movie where Superman realizes humans arent worth saving. A dark depressing Supergirl with PTSD!
10. SWAMP THING---movie described as, "the dark origins" of Swamp Thing.
Do you have one for this? Revenge killer who only comes out when humans splash in his puddles?
Yes, I do. Oh, boy! Another "Dark" universe. Like that's worked before. I'd stay away from words like "Dark" and "Origins".
I don't understand the need to go dark? Seems now is the opportunity for DC to change its tone.
I'm not a comics expert, so I'll bow to your knowledge on such things. I do know X-Men One and Two themes were very present in Captain America/Avengers. Who took from who? I dunno. Maybe both comics went down the same path, I dunno?
Coming from curious, what are the themes you are talking about being in common?
I'm not a comics expert, so I'll bow to your knowledge on such things. I do know X-Men One and Two themes were very present in Captain America/Avengers. Who took from who? I dunno. Maybe both comics went down the same path, I dunno?
Coming from curious, what are the themes you are talking about being in common?
Fear of the mutants/super heroes as "the others". That they needed to be a documented and registered class of people under the control of the government.
I'm not a comics expert, so I'll bow to your knowledge on such things. I do know X-Men One and Two themes were very present in Captain America/Avengers. Who took from who? I dunno. Maybe both comics went down the same path, I dunno?
Coming from curious, what are the themes you are talking about being in common?
Fear of the mutants/super heroes as "the others". That they needed to be a documented and registered class of people under the control of the government.
Swamp Thing's tone makes sense, but I wonder if Gunn will keep the DC universe as a whole dark to separate itself from MCU....
Neither Wonder Woman nor Aquaman were dark and they were the most successful DC universe films. They need to stop trying to be MCU or not being MCU and just concentrate on making good entertaining films. (Joker was an outlier)
The DC comics I remember (I stopped following in the 90's) had each city reflect their hero. Metropolis was sunshiny and more upbeat like Superman. Gotham was rougher (though not the shithole of the recent movies) and crime ridden, so Batman was colder in his methods. That was the the Superman/Batman conflict, their methods. Batman was also standoffish and expected the people he worked with the shut up and get to work (the Justice League comic mini series was hilarious and great fun while keeping true to everyone).
I really enjoy every film take on Batman because he's been SOOOO many things since 1939 and I love the character. But I would love to see a Neal Adams Era version in the movies. Batman was allowed to smile. The overblown Frank Miller inspired crabass needs a break.
The DC comics I remember (I stopped following in the 90's) had each city reflect their hero. Metropolis was sunshiny and more upbeat like Superman. Gotham was rougher (though not the shithole of the recent movies) and crime ridden, so Batman was colder in his methods.
And the people of Central City were always in a hurry to get to their destination.
The DC comics I remember (I stopped following in the 90's) had each city reflect their hero. Metropolis was sunshiny and more upbeat like Superman. Gotham was rougher (though not the shithole of the recent movies) and crime ridden, so Batman was colder in his methods. That was the the Superman/Batman conflict, their methods. Batman was also standoffish and expected the people he worked with the shut up and get to work (the Justice League comic mini series was hilarious and great fun while keeping true to everyone).
I really enjoy every film take on Batman because he's been SOOOO many things since 1939 and I love the character. But I would love to see a Neal Adams Era version in the movies. Batman was allowed to smile. The overblown Frank Miller inspired crabass needs a break.
Exactly, Batman doesn't have to be brutish and mad all the time.
