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 Posted:   Aug 8, 2022 - 2:13 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

There are of course a lot of different issues here. I don't know much about Anne Heche or her personal life or whatever... and yes, of course it is irresponsible to recklessly drive with high speed and drunk through a residential neighborhood. I'm just glad no one got seriously injured (she could have easily driven over playing children!), and of course she is liable to repay for the damage she has caused. Whatever childhood she may have had is certainly no excuse for such behavior though some of it might help to explain (those are not the same thing).
Anyway, somebody who is driving like a maniac under the influence is likely to have a serious alcohol problem. I hope this will be a turning point in her live.

 
 Posted:   Aug 8, 2022 - 7:25 AM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

Heche was seen rising off the stretcher as she was taken by paramedics to the ambulance, “almost as if she were a criminal trying to bolt the scene,” neighbor David Manpearl, the first person on the scene, told The Post on Saturday. “But I guess she must have just been in pain.”

Jesus what a dick. I'm reasonably sure the last thing on her mind at that moment was escape from the scene. Escape from pain? Yep.

 
 Posted:   Aug 8, 2022 - 9:28 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Being burned is horrible and very painful. I feel sorry for her pain. Sorry she had a tough life, but the house owner was not her abuser. She could have killed people in the house she hit or children playing on sidewalks or on the streets. She needs to pay of any damages and any inconveniences for the house owner and look at getting into therapy when she is released. She may also be arrested upon her release depending on various circumstances.

If she survives she will probably face criminal and civil charges. While its her own doing she's already being punished with horrible burns, possible disfigurement and perhaps her life. Though she shattered some innocent lives thank god she didn't injure or kill anyone else. It's a tragedy all around.

 
 Posted:   Aug 8, 2022 - 9:29 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Heche was seen rising off the stretcher as she was taken by paramedics to the ambulance, “almost as if she were a criminal trying to bolt the scene,” neighbor David Manpearl, the first person on the scene, told The Post on Saturday. “But I guess she must have just been in pain.”

Jesus what a dick. I'm reasonably sure the last thing on her mind at that moment was escape from the scene. Escape from pain? Yep.


"rising off the stretcher", yeah in horrible pain.

 
 Posted:   Aug 8, 2022 - 9:56 AM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

I am legit sympathetic for the pain she's in. I am also horribly sad for the homeowners. In the end, it was Heche's damned fault and after she recovers, she should be held completely responsible.

That family is fortunate to not have lost anyone (humans or pets) and escaped uninjured. But losing your home and a lifetime of memories , having to be dependent on the generosity of others for a time, is an awful place to be.

There isn't a single winner in this situation. I only hope the homeowners have a really good insurance adjuster to make sure their insurance company delivers what they're entitled to.

 
 Posted:   Aug 8, 2022 - 10:41 AM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

The way I heard it, trial lawyers won't be very interested in the lost home, because without bodily injuries, there will be no "pain and suffering" to sweeten the jackpot.

What's worse: if they win back the value of their lost property in a civil settlement, their lawyer will take one third off the top (the "contingency fee"), and then take his billable hours, his pay for actual work, out of the client's remaining share. So the victim will come out way behind in the civil case.

On the bright side, they have a go fund me page up. But our civil lawsuit rules in the U.S. are rigged to enrich the lawyers at everyone else's expense. Other countries don't do it that way.

 
 Posted:   Aug 8, 2022 - 10:59 AM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

If they have decent coverage, insurance should cover the house and personal property. But it depends on the policy.

 
 Posted:   Aug 8, 2022 - 12:43 PM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

Shouldn't the car insurance cover the damages? That's what it's for in Germany.

 
 Posted:   Aug 8, 2022 - 1:09 PM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

Shouldn't the car insurance cover the damages? That's what it's for in Germany.

Yeah that's true, property damage liability.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 8, 2022 - 1:46 PM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

I imagine Heche is quite wealthy and after she recovers from this, she would do the right thing in compensating the homeowners who have sustained all these damages, if they get shafted by lawyers and beaurocracy in the aftermath.

 
 Posted:   Aug 8, 2022 - 5:15 PM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

I imagine Heche is quite wealthy and after she recovers from this, she would do the right thing in compensating the homeowners who have sustained all these damages, if they get shafted by lawyers and beaurocracy in the aftermath.


I just checked on Bing and Google. Her net worth is said to be around $4 million. If you're famous in Los Angeles, you want to live in a gated neighborhood with private security, at the very least. And if you don't have a job, $4 million is not a fortune. It's barely enough to keep your head above water, and you should be watching every penny.

By way of illustration: in a year when your $4 million nest egg earns 1%, you're living on $40,000. Since her net worth probably includes her house (I'd guess), there's even less potential income. So I'd say Anne Heche is not rich. By the standards of L.A. "society," she's pretty close to poor.

 
 Posted:   Aug 8, 2022 - 5:47 PM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

I think the news is getting worse, and it does not look good at all:
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/anne-heche-coma-critical-condition-after-car-crash-003451975.html

 
 Posted:   Aug 8, 2022 - 6:27 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I think the news is getting worse, and it does not look good at all:
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/anne-heche-coma-critical-condition-after-car-crash-003451975.html


Yeah, people looking for damages, I'd be surprised if she survives this. I really can't imagine what its like to lose everything. My heart goes out to the lady who lived in the house. One very happy bit of news, not only did the occupants get out unharmed but so did their pets.

 
 Posted:   Aug 8, 2022 - 6:29 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

I'm curious to see if her ex, Ellen DeGeneres, steps up to the plate--not just to help Heche, but to also help the poor innocent homeowner.
It would be an interesting measurement of Ellen's purported humanitarianism (and what the limits to it might be).

 
 Posted:   Aug 8, 2022 - 6:41 PM   
 By:   Warlok   (Member)

I'm curious to see if her ex, Ellen DeGeneres, steps up to the plate--not just to help Heche, but to also help the poor innocent homeowner.
It would be an interesting measurement of Ellen's purported humanitarianism (and what the limits to it might be).


That doesn't quite square. On some level, yes, helping out in the circumstance in general is a laudable thing for anyone to do, but singling out DeGeneres as having a *responsibility* to - or she is no longer a valid humanist - would not be fair. The family of Heche, whilst she is in a coma, seems more on the mark, slightly. Heche, the motor vehicle manufacturer, or a host of others more directly may have responsibility, depending on what the facts turn out to be.

 
 Posted:   Aug 8, 2022 - 6:54 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

That doesn't quite square. On some level, yes, helping out in the circumstance in general is a laudable thing for anyone to do, but singling out DeGeneres as having a *responsibility* to - or she is no longer a valid humanist - would not be fair. The family of Heche, whilst she is in a coma, seems more on the mark, slightly. Heche, the motor vehicle manufacturer, or a host of others more directly may have responsibility, depending on what the facts turn out to be.


I dig you Warlok, but you're putting words in my mouth that I didn't say.
All I said was that I will find it interesting to see if any of my extremely theoretical scenario plays out.

I doubt that the possibility I spoke of even occurred to anyone else.
I can say, though, that if I was a multi-millionaire and my ex of however-many-years-ago demolished someone's house, I would probably help out a bit with getting that person's life back together.
It would not matter to me how much someone else might have been helping.

 
 Posted:   Aug 8, 2022 - 7:42 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I don't know if she'll help out in this situation or should, but DeGeneres is no humanist.

 
 Posted:   Aug 8, 2022 - 8:03 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

I don't know if she'll help out in this situation or should, but DeGeneres is no humanist.


Yeah, that's sort of why I said "purported".
But still... lotta cash there (I think?).
And my little scenario was a huuuge IF to begin with.

 
 Posted:   Aug 9, 2022 - 6:59 AM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

Everyone is gonna lose in this scenario on some level. If Heche survives this, she'll be severely disfigured and potentially crippled. A lot of her money will be eaten up by medical expenses. The family who lost their home? If they're lucky, whatever coverage applies in this situation will be sufficient to give them a new home and furniture, but will need help until then. I'm sure they consider themselves lucky to have gotten away with all of their lives but nobody is gonna make out in the end and it will be an ongoing trauma for the family.

 
 Posted:   Aug 9, 2022 - 8:59 AM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

Burns.
I just can't think of any physical pain more nightmarish to suffer through.

 
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