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 Posted:   Jul 14, 2017 - 8:06 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

I'll reserve my full judgment after I read CRISIS, but from what I know and excerpts I have seen, I will probably not like it. I already despise some of the things they did to characters and concepts, but like you say they have since undone some of that.

I liked the Earth-2 concept, even if I thought DC's continuity was all a jumbled mess even back when I was a kid.

 
 Posted:   Jul 19, 2017 - 7:27 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

"Ten Bat-Takes: The Ten Best Interpretations of Batman", according to some guy: wink

http://www.indiewire.com/2012/07/ten-bat-takes-the-ten-best-interpretations-of-batman-233116/

It's a pretty good list, with some unconventional but valid choices--#1 may surprise some, but I applaud the selection.

 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2017 - 4:14 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Gerry Conway: Tales of the Batman out as of Tuesday---

https://www.amazon.com/Tales-Batman-Gerry-Conway/dp/140127255X

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 28, 2017 - 11:40 AM   
 By:   Gordon Reeves   (Member)



During DC's magnificent mid-80s renaissance – between Moore’s “Swamp Thing” and “Watchmen”, Miller’s “Dark Knight” and Bryne’s “Superman” – THIS was probably our fave of all:





 
 Posted:   Jul 29, 2017 - 3:36 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Never read Camelot 3000, but from that same time of DC's use of higher-quality paper and colors was the Marv Wolfman-Keith Pollard VIGILANTE, which must all be but forgotten by the majority of comics aficionados.

 
 Posted:   Jul 29, 2017 - 11:15 PM   
 By:   Michael Scorefan   (Member)

Thanks for posting the Camelot 3000 art Gordon. I have never read the story, but I acquired the trade paperback a few conventions ago and forgot about it. Thanks to your post I dug it out and added it to my "to read" pile. Looking forward to reading it.

 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2017 - 2:52 PM   
 By:   drop_forge   (Member)

I LOVE-LOVE-LOVE Camelot 3000. A great saga (nothing like it on the stands at the time), and that MOUTHWATERING Brian Bolland art. Like, holy hell! A f**king classic!

Never read Camelot 3000, but from that same time of DC's use of higher-quality paper and colors was the Marv Wolfman-Keith Pollard VIGILANTE, which must all be but forgotten by the majority of comics aficionados.

Vigilante was such a killer book. Damn, comics in the '80s were awesome! I think Vigilante's going to be introduced in one of DC's CW shows, but he really should be in a movie. That was not a comic "for the kiddies"!

The New Teen Titans Annual that introduced Vigilante was awesome, too. Gettin' chills remembering the cover. I'll have to dig that baby out and give it a serious revisit.

 
 Posted:   Aug 3, 2017 - 8:03 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)


Vigilante was such a killer book. Damn, comics in the '80s were awesome! I think Vigilante's going to be introduced in one of DC's CW shows, but he really should be in a movie. That was not a comic "for the kiddies"!

The New Teen Titans Annual that introduced was awesome, too. Gettin' chills remembering the cover. I'll have to dig that baby out and give it a serious revisit.


While I remember his Teen Titans debut, I liked that Adrian Chase was largely removed from the superhero aspect of the DCU, like how the war and western characters (mostly) were and Master of Kung Fu was over at Marvel.

I only had issues from the first year of Vigilante and I liked the "garish" colors and improved paper, even if it didn't seem like the pages would hold together for long. wink

Speaking of which, I liked the Baxter(?) paper and that bright coloring style! Yes, it had flaws, but damn it I liked it! big grin

Yeah, Vigilante was great stuff, though I lost track of it and most comics after 1984; I've since caught up with the DC superheroes, but ol' Vig deserves a revisitation, too.

I have that aforementioned NIGHT FORCE book on my radar, as I've been in a major Gene Colan state of mind lately.

Remember The Badger? lol I Not DC, but liked the one issue I actually have!

 
 Posted:   Aug 3, 2017 - 9:53 AM   
 By:   drop_forge   (Member)

While I remember his Teen Titans debut, I liked that Adrian Chase was largely removed from the superhero aspect of the DCU, like how the war and western characters (mostly) were and Master of Kung Fu was over at Marvel.

Yeah, Vig was "street level," like Black Lightning, Daredevil, Power Man & Iron Fist, etc.

Speaking of which, I liked the Baxter(?) paper and that bright coloring style! Yes, it had flaws, but damn it I liked it! big grin

I loved the Baxter stock. That's what Frank Miller's Ronin was printed on, too. Now that's another '80s milestone. Frank and a few others pretty much owned the decade.

Remember The Badger? lol I Not DC, but liked the one issue I actually have!

Yeah, I had some issues of Badger. I sold my #1 way back in high school for $10 because this dude I knew was really into it and needed it to complete his collection. Same publisher as Nexus.

 
 Posted:   Aug 12, 2017 - 6:42 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Michael Scorefan: I "owe" you a DC Comics Presents #97 review, and I apologize for not getting around to reading it, but soon, my friend. I just have so much ahead of it to read--and review, which I do for every comic I read, sadly--which leads me to my next DC-related thought.

I recently got issues JLA #183-185 which were gaping holes (yuck) in my JLA collection, but I finally got some "very good" condition copies off ebay for a swell price. There has been much written online about this plot being the JLA movie plot--which we won't discuss yet since I'm spoilerphobic--but I will read these comics since I've been so excited about finally getting them aft all these years. Darkseid was a rarity in the DC of my youth other than his appearances in the 1984-85 Super Friends cartoon, so it will be fun to read him in his original comic form.

https://magisterrex.wordpress.com/2017/02/05/obsolete-comic-review-justice-league-of-america-crisis-on-new-genesis/

 
 Posted:   Aug 12, 2017 - 10:36 AM   
 By:   drop_forge   (Member)

Darkseid was a rarity in the DC of my youth other than his appearances in the 1984-85 Super Friends cartoon, so it will be fun to read him in his original comic form.

Jim, you never read the "The Great Darkness Saga" in Legion of Super-Heroes (#290-294)? That was one of the best stories of the decade.

 
 Posted:   Aug 12, 2017 - 11:37 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Darkseid was a rarity in the DC of my youth other than his appearances in the 1984-85 Super Friends cartoon, so it will be fun to read him in his original comic form.

Jim, you never read the "The Great Darkness Saga" in Legion of Super-Heroes (#290-294)? That was one of the best stories of the decade.


I'm afraid not, though I am aware of that story arc. I only read one issue of LoSH when I was a kid (issue #304; it was in a quarter bin) but I've since grabbed a few of the Levitz-Giffen run and enjoyed what I've read so far. I also have a few from Gerry Conway's (earlier) run.

 
 Posted:   Aug 12, 2017 - 5:04 PM   
 By:   drop_forge   (Member)

Darkseid was a rarity in the DC of my youth other than his appearances in the 1984-85 Super Friends cartoon, so it will be fun to read him in his original comic form.

Jim, you never read the "The Great Darkness Saga" in Legion of Super-Heroes (#290-294)? That was one of the best stories of the decade.


I'm afraid not, though I am aware of that story arc. I only read one issue of LoSH when I was a kid (issue #304; it was in a quarter bin) but I've since grabbed a few of the Levitz-Giffen run and enjoyed what I've read so far. I also have a few from Gerry Conway's (earlier) run.


That's the peak of the Levitz-Giffen run. It was collected in a trade edition a couple different times, the first having a much better cover than the current edition:

https://www.amazon.com/Legion-Super-Heroes-Great-Darkness-Saga/dp/1401244165/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1502582587&sr=1-1&keywords=the+great+darkness+saga

 
 Posted:   Aug 12, 2017 - 9:57 PM   
 By:   Michael Scorefan   (Member)

Michael Scorefan: I "owe" you a DC Comics Presents #97 review, and I apologize for not getting around to reading it, but soon, my friend. I just have so much ahead of it to read--and review, which I do for every comic I read, sadly--which leads me to my next DC-related thought

No worries. I have stacks of books and comics waiting to be read. Sadly only so many hours in the day . . .

I recently got issues JLA #183-185 which were gaping holes (yuck) in my JLA collection, but I finally got some "very good" condition copies off ebay for a swell price. There has been much written online about this plot being the JLA movie plot--which we won't discuss yet since I'm spoilerphobic--but I will read these comics since I've been so excited about finally getting them aft all these years. Darkseid was a rarity in the DC of my youth other than his appearances in the 1984-85 Super Friends cartoon, so it will be fun to read him in his original comic form.

https://magisterrex.wordpress.com/2017/02/05/obsolete-comic-review-justice-league-of-america-crisis-on-new-genesis/


I haven't read that storyline. If it provides inspiration for the upcoming Justice League movie, DC will undoubtedly be reprinting it soon, so I will have to track it down that way.

Darkseid's appearances in Superfriends and the Super Powers toy line really did put him on the map. Post Crisis he seemed to be popping up everywhere. Here is a list of Darkseid's 10 best stories that I found interesting. It is close to 10 years old, so there might be some more recent stories missing, though I can't think of what they would be: https://comicreadersregina.wordpress.com/2009/07/06/top-10-darkseid-stories/

I always liked Cosmic Odyssey with some fantastic Mignola art, and the X-Men/New Teen Titans cross-over by Chris Claremont in his prime and some wonderful art by the great Walt Simonsson.

 
 Posted:   Aug 12, 2017 - 10:04 PM   
 By:   Michael Scorefan   (Member)

Darkseid was a rarity in the DC of my youth other than his appearances in the 1984-85 Super Friends cartoon, so it will be fun to read him in his original comic form.

Jim, you never read the "The Great Darkness Saga" in Legion of Super-Heroes (#290-294)? That was one of the best stories of the decade.


I'm afraid not, though I am aware of that story arc. I only read one issue of LoSH when I was a kid (issue #304; it was in a quarter bin) but I've since grabbed a few of the Levitz-Giffen run and enjoyed what I've read so far. I also have a few from Gerry Conway's (earlier) run.


That's the peak of the Levitz-Giffen run. It was collected in a trade edition a couple different times, the first having a much better cover than the current edition:

https://www.amazon.com/Legion-Super-Heroes-Great-Darkness-Saga/dp/1401244165/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1502582587&sr=1-1&keywords=the+great+darkness+saga


The Great Darkness Saga is an excellent story. As someone who never really followed the Legion all that much I found the story to be incredibly accessible, so check it out when you have a chance.

Speaking of the Legion, I always loved this Superman cover where John Byrne pays homage to himself:


 
 Posted:   Aug 13, 2017 - 11:13 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)


That's the peak of the Levitz-Giffen run. It was collected in a trade edition a couple different times, the first having a much better cover than the current edition...

The Great Darkness Saga is an excellent story. As someone who never really followed the Legion all that much I found the story to be incredibly accessible, so check it out when you have a chance.


It looks to be oop. It may be cheaper just to get the original back issues, which is what I prefer if the price is within reason.

I'll keep this story in mind.

 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2017 - 4:02 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

DC scribe extraordinaire Paul Kupperberg has a excellent blog that I highly recommend:

Check out this wonderful post on the late, great Don Newton and some of the last work he ever did:

http://kupps.malibulist.com/2017/05/22/don-newton-in-glorious-black-white/

(Star W_rs fans may want to take note, as there's more than a nod to it)

 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2017 - 4:32 PM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

Every time I see this thread lately, with the "Camelot 3000 Redux" header, I keep thinking, "Wait, DC did a comic adaptation of the old Italian erotica film with the great Piccioni score?"

(See, Jim, like I said in the other thread, I just don't have much worthwhile to add in this one right now. wink)

 
 Posted:   Aug 18, 2017 - 4:14 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Every time I see this thread lately, with the "Camelot 3000 Redux" header, I keep thinking, "Wait, DC did a comic adaptation of the old Italian erotica film with the great Piccioni score?"

(See, Jim, like I said in the other thread, I just don't have much worthwhile to add in this one right now. wink)


When you get around to cracking open a comic book or trade or hardback, why not chime in on what you've read?

Right now I've just started reading the Gerry Conway run on Batman and Detective Comics. Gene Colan gets an awesomely warm DC welcome in Batman #340; Gentleman Gene got the bum's tush from Marvel E-in-C Shooter and so Colan joined his former fellow Marvelites Len Wein, Marv Wolfman, Roy Thomas, and Conway at The Distinguished Competition. Phelpsian Hero Doug Moench would join that illustrious group two years later.

I'm a big admirer of Gene Colan's work so that Night Force book is going to be fun to read (Marv's too, even if he did write Crisis on Infinite Earths, which "killed" my childhood). wink

 
 Posted:   Aug 19, 2017 - 8:36 AM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

When you get around to cracking open a comic book or trade or hardback, why not chime in on what you've read?

Will do. Been reading the Valerian comics from the beginning in new omnibus editions, which is a lot more fun than the movie, sad to say. But that's for another thread. I'll be back when I've done some Delightful Consumption.

 
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