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Aug 20, 2010 - 1:25 PM
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BasilFSM
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I have a real interest in picking up some of the titles from this series of DVD releases... my only problem is that so many of them have been made. I must have counted around 25 sets on Amazon!
Granted, I'm primarily interested in the animation sets (Mickey, Donald, Goofy, Pluto, etc.), but I really don't care for a whole lot for the live action stuff (such as Zorro: Complete First and Second Seasons).
The other problem being that these sets were released around five years ago as limited edition collector's items, with around 125,000 copies pressed per set. Some of them are real pricey now - Volumes 3 and 4 of Chronological Donald sell for up to $100.
Is there a complete listing for all of the sets that have been released in this series?
On a related note, what about the "Funny Factory" or "Classic Cartoon Favorites" single DVDs that Disney issued around the same time? Are those worth getting, or are they mostly duplicates of the cartoon shorts found in the treasuries?
And are there any other related DVDs that Disney issued?
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Aug 20, 2010 - 2:16 PM
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Richard-W
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The Walt Disney Treasures were a limited edition series and they are all out of print now. I seriously doubt if you'll find any in local brick and mortar stores because amazon marketplace sellers gobble them up. A few places like amazon still have a few titles in stock, and when they are gone, they are gone. The series was discontinued this year, so there won't be anymore of them, according to Leonard Maltin.
The quality of the transfers is extremely high. The sets of classic cartoons are comprehensive. Each Walt Disney Treasure is essential and necessary.
The Disney Movie Club still have fifteen Treasures in stock, although not for long. Join the club, it's worth every penny, you save money and get many benefits. A sixteenth Treasures title is available through the Disney Rewards site. The supply is depleting rapidly:
https://disneymovieclub.go.com
http://www.disneymovierewards.go.com
You'll want to supplement a collection of Walt Disney Treasures with all four Walt Disney Legacy Collection: True Life Adventures sets, which gather the ground-breaking and classic documentaries. Lovely sets, also oop, but still available in some places:
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_2_19?url=search-alias%3Ddvd&field-keywords=walt+disney+legacy+collection+-+true+life+adventures&sprefix=walt+disney+legacy+&ih=18_1_0_0_0_0_0_0_0_1.114_1238&fsc=-1
Good luck.
Richard
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Aug 20, 2010 - 5:36 PM
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Richard-W
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Where would I be able to locate those 15 Treasures you mentioned on the Movie Club website?
You must join the Disney Movie Club first. Then titles that are unavailable to the general public will show up in your search. After you are a member, and have made a purchase, and have an account page, type in Walt Disney Treasures and you will see them. You also be able to see them in the Collector's Corner department of the website as well as the Exclusive DVD's for club members.
Right now there's a 60% off sale. Buy one DVD or Blu-ray at list price and get all others in your order at the discount. You still pay for postage, but sometimes, they throw that in as well.
Here are the fifteen Walt Disney Treasures currently available:
Disney Rarities and Celebrated Shorts 1920s - 1960s.
Disneyland USA.
Elfego Baca and the Swamp Fox, Legendary Heroes.
Mickey Mouse in Black and White, volume 2.
Mickey Mouse in Living Color, volume 2.
More Silly Symphonies.
On the Front Lines.
The Adventures of Oswald the Luck Rabbit.
The Adventures of Spin and Marty (chapter serial).
The Chronological Donald, volume 2.
The Complete Pluto, volume 1.
The Mickey Mouse Club.
The Mickey Mouse Club: The Hardy Boys (a chapter serial).
The Mickey Mouse Club Presents: Annette 1957-58 (a chapter serial).
Tomorrow Land.
At the present discount, the first Treasure is $29.95, and every other Treasure I add to an order is $11.98. You can't beat that anywhere.
Your Host, Walt Disney is available at the Rewards site. The rest you have to hunt for. Some of the titles the Movie Club doesn't have can be found in stock at list price on amazon until the inventory runs out, which will be soon. The two Zorro sets are less than a year old and sold out. Dr. Syn sold out within two months.
I need Chronological Donald volume 3 and Disneyland: Secrets Stories and Magic. I have everything else I want, about 150 Disney DVDs from the classic period.
I might be willing to part with my colorized Zorro (10 DVDs) if somebody makes the right offer. Either sell it or trade it. That is also out of print and the price on it is skyrocketing.
Like I said, good luck.
Richard
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Aug 20, 2010 - 8:11 PM
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BasilFSM
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Richard,
I have to thank you again for the details you've brought up... I do appreciate it and it's all VERY helpful.
However, having read the fine print about the Disney Movie Club membership, I'm very hesitant in signing up. One of the conditions is that I must buy 5 other movies at full price ($24.95 per DVD... WAY too much for me!), and to me, no movie is ever worth paying the MSRP's suggested price. Nowadays I only buy DVDs if they're $6 or less... in the case of Disney DVDs, I'd be willing to pay $10 at a max for each title.
I do have to admit that the opportunity to nab some Treasury sets at $12 apiece is a fine deal. But it's not worth the hassle of following the stipulations as laid out in the Disney Movie Club's contract.
From the looks of these treasuries, the only ones I'm really interested in are the Mickey Mouse B&W / In Living Color, Chronological Donald, Complete Goofy and Complete Pluto sets. Maybe the Silly Symphonies, but I'd have to research those ones a bit more... all in all amounting to 11 sets out of 30 (13, with the Silly Symphonies included).
As tempting as it is - I have no money right now anyway, and I'll find some other venue in hunting down the sets that I want.
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Aug 20, 2010 - 8:51 PM
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Richard-W
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The most you are willing to pay is $10 a set? Basil ... you won't be able to find them that cheap, I guarantee it. The Walt Disney Treasures were never that cheap when they were new or used. Now that they are out of print and discontinued, the price is going up, not down. In fact, some of the titles you want go for over a $100.
As for the club, buying 5 titles at list price is spread out over a year or more. You can skip a month as often as you want to. It's not like you gotta buy them all at once. Each time you buy one title at list, you get to add as many other titles at the discount price as you want.
If all you are interested in are the cartoon sets, you'll also want to add THE ADVENTURES OF OSWALD THE LUCKY RABBIT, which is Walt's cartoons before he developed Mickey Mouse. Ignoring the SILLY SYMPHONIES is just plain nuts, since they represent the best animation. Too many milestones in the SILLY SYMPHONIES to ignore. They are the Rolls Royce of early cartoons. Then there are the animated featurettes including THE RELUCTANT DRAGON short and long, MELODY TIME, MAKE MINE MUSIC, FUN AND FANCY FREE, SALUDOS AMIGOS, THE THREE CABALLEROS, THE WIND IN THE WILLOWS / THE ADVENTURES OF ICHABOD AND MR. TOAD, and the features SNOW WHITE, PINOCCHIO, FANTASIA, BAMBI, and DUMBO, and the interactive features SONG OF THE SOUTH and SO DEAR TO MY HEART, all made before 1950.
Somebody, talk to him!
Richard
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The SILLY SYMPHONIES and MORE SILLY SYMPHONIES are my favorites.
I also like the MICKEY MOUSE IN COLOR and the WARTIME CARTOONS.
Those are the ones that immediately spring to mind, though I do have others, notably the Donald Duck in Color, and some others.
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Aug 20, 2010 - 10:35 PM
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BasilFSM
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The most you are willing to pay is $10 a set? Basil ... you won't be able to find them that cheap, I guarantee it. The Walt Disney Treasures were never that cheap when they were new or used. Now that they are out of print and discontinued, the price is going up, not down. In fact, some of the titles you want go for over a $100.
Sorry, a little bit of misunderstanding there - what I meant to say is that $10 is the most I'd pay for any regular Disney movie, not related to the Treasuries in any way. Anything from Snow White to Sleeping Beauty to Lion King to Cars. Those kind of movies. I'd certainly pay $20 - $30 for the Treasuries! 
As for the club, buying 5 titles at list price is spread out over a year or more. You can skip a month as often as you want to. It's not like you gotta buy them all at once. Each time you buy one title at list, you get to add as many other titles at the discount price as you want.
The way I look at it is this.
I buy 4 movies for $2 each. I am then forced to buy 5 more movies at a full price of $25 apiece.
This comes to a total of $133 for 9 movies. If I were to divide the total cost evenly between all of the movies, it's essentially $14.78 per movie. So in reality I'm not really getting 4 movies for $2 (though I wish such a steal could be had!), I'm getting 9 movies at a 41% discount. A Best Buy store just opened up in my city and I can get several Disney DVD titles there at $10 each - though it's not nearly as great of a selection as the Disney Movie Club.
As for the discount, well, that's just a bonus, in my opinion. Isn't the 60% discount only up for a limited time? It's not up forever, is it? If I were to, say, order several Disney DVDs from the Club several months from now, would I have to pay full price for all of them? Or would the 60% discount on additional titles be on then? Or would it be a different kind of offer by then?
If all you are interested in are the cartoon sets, you'll also want to add THE ADVENTURES OF OSWALD THE LUCKY RABBIT, which is Walt's cartoons before he developed Mickey Mouse. Ignoring the SILLY SYMPHONIES is just plain nuts, since they represent the best animation. Too many milestones in the SILLY SYMPHONIES to ignore. They are the Rolls Royce of early cartoons. Then there are the animated featurettes including THE RELUCTANT DRAGON short and long, MELODY TIME, MAKE MINE MUSIC, FUN AND FANCY FREE, SALUDOS AMIGOS, THE THREE CABALLEROS, THE WIND IN THE WILLOWS / THE ADVENTURES OF ICHABOD AND MR. TOAD, and the features SNOW WHITE, PINOCCHIO, FANTASIA, BAMBI, and DUMBO, and the interactive features SONG OF THE SOUTH and SO DEAR TO MY HEART, all made before 1950.
Somebody, talk to him!
It's not so much a matter of not wanting to see vintage animation, so much as it is a matter of time and cost. But thank you once again for the insight. I'll keep an eye out for Oswald and the Silly Symphonies too. It's just that there's so much out there and it's hard to keep track of what's been released and what hasn't, as well as WHICH DVDs to buy and WHICH DVDs are formatted in the correct aspect ratio, be it widescreen or fullscreen... and WHICH DVDs have the best mastering and quality. It's all so complicated!
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