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 Posted:   Mar 15, 2017 - 8:27 AM   
 By:   litefoot   (Member)

MV confirms Varese have perp rights to Dolores Claiborne.
http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=67050&forumID=1&archive=0

And Pee-Wee's Big Adventure
http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=66030&forumID=1&archive=0

 
 Posted:   Mar 15, 2017 - 8:49 AM   
 By:   litefoot   (Member)

Here's the source link for Forever Amber, which is in your list but not the link to Bruce K's post:
http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?pageID=1&forumID=1&threadID=104911&archive=0

 
 Posted:   Mar 15, 2017 - 9:02 AM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

Holy crap! I can't even imagine how much time it took you to research all that!

 
 Posted:   Mar 15, 2017 - 9:29 AM   
 By:   litefoot   (Member)

Holy crap! I can't even imagine how much time it took you to research all that!

Not too long. I started this morning. I use Google's search. Adding 'site:filmscoremonthly.com' to the end of search parameters can also be useful.

I'm only adding stuff that the labels have said (so LLL, Intrada, Kritzerland etc) as it's straight from the horse's mouth as it were.

This thread could be the number one resource for the 'Varese in perpetuity' question, if everyone chips in. I'm glad you started it!

Here's another one, courtesy of Mr Kimmel. Bernard Herrmann's The Ghost and Mrs Muir.
http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?forumID=1&pageID=1&threadID=108916&archive=0


 
 Posted:   Mar 15, 2017 - 9:41 AM   
 By:   litefoot   (Member)

Bruce mentions The Mephisto Waltz further up this page so that's another one you could add smile

 
 Posted:   Mar 15, 2017 - 10:31 AM   
 By:   litefoot   (Member)

Lukas confirms Brass Target's status here:
http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=91875&forumID=1&archive=0

 
 Posted:   Mar 15, 2017 - 10:58 AM   
 By:   litefoot   (Member)

Stanley and Iris, and Presumed Innocent, are two titles in your 'confirmed' list that you don't have a source for. Now you do - MV confirms them both here:
http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?forumID=1&pageID=2&threadID=100524&archive=0

 
 Posted:   Mar 15, 2017 - 11:06 AM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

Mike M also confirmed S&I here

http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=119169&forumID=1&archive=0

 
 Posted:   Mar 15, 2017 - 11:10 AM   
 By:   litefoot   (Member)

Mike M also confirmed S&I here

http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=119169&forumID=1&archive=0


Great! Add 'em both smile

MV confirms Varese have Conti's The Right Stuff in perp:
http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?forumID=1&pageID=2&threadID=43977&archive=0

 
 Posted:   Mar 15, 2017 - 11:15 AM   
 By:   litefoot   (Member)

OK, that's me done for today, or my eyes will go square. If you're updating your original post, it will keep you busy for a while.

 
 Posted:   Mar 15, 2017 - 11:28 AM   
 By:   litefoot   (Member)

Found another one. James Fitzpatrick (using his Tadlow account) confirms Maurice Jarre's The Bride is in perp:
http://mail.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?forumID=1&pageID=2&threadID=13459&archive=1

OK, now I really am going.

 
 Posted:   Mar 15, 2017 - 11:34 AM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

Varese doesn't own PLANET OF THE APES in perpetuity, not the complete score, just the cues exclusive to their 1997 release.

 
 Posted:   Mar 15, 2017 - 11:41 AM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

Are you sure about that? That sounds like a weird licensing situation.

 
 Posted:   Mar 15, 2017 - 11:55 AM   
 By:   litefoot   (Member)

MV is the source of the Apes situation, earlier in this very thread.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 15, 2017 - 1:04 PM   
 By:   KonstantinosZ   (Member)

Just saw this thread.
I don't know if it has been mentioned again but what about Williams' Earthquake and The Eiger Sanction?
Could other labels release them?

 
 Posted:   Mar 15, 2017 - 1:21 PM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

Of course! Those were Universal LPs, Varese would absolutely not have any kind of perpetuity rights on those.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 15, 2017 - 1:57 PM   
 By:   JC   (Member)

What about the following Morricone scores?

Morricone - 1979 - Bloodline
Morricone - 1980 - The island
Morricone - 1982 - The thing

 
 Posted:   Mar 15, 2017 - 10:25 PM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

Are you sure about that? That sounds like a weird licensing situation.

Yes, I am. It was discovered when someone who might confirm it had to license the score to do a re-recording.

 
 Posted:   Mar 16, 2017 - 12:34 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

Are you sure about that? That sounds like a weird licensing situation.

Yes, I am. It was discovered when someone who might confirm it had to license the score to do a re-recording.


I don't think it's that unusual. As we know from so many expanded soundtracks of the last two decades, often the new label had to negotiate with the original label for the tracks that had already been released and with the studio for those that hadn't. Split rights are a fact of life.

 
 Posted:   Mar 16, 2017 - 12:36 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

What about the following Morricone scores?

Morricone - 1979 - Bloodline
Morricone - 1980 - The island
Morricone - 1982 - The thing


Definitely not "The Thing," which was another MCA LP that Varèse briefly licensed for CD. The other two were Varèse originals, so they certainly could be under their control.

 
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